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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

stefmeister

Mar 7, 2017, 12:44 PM

people like quoting the output of pro riders, but pro riders have the TITS to know how to manage that power (No wheelspin, etc) and then in theory also have the ability, thanks to TITS to control the bike back down the trail again.

 

Mr/Mrs/Miss Joe/Jolene Soap, new to the sport and lacking bicycle handling ability would not have that skill or TITS.

 

Are we are veering off topic here?

These people will still not be able to ride down a trail, and will most likely end up with a broken clavicle or with torn ACLs.

Mongoose!

Mar 7, 2017, 12:47 PM

Is there maybe someone owning an e bike and normal bike (with a respectable fitness level) willing to ride a curtain route / trail with both bikes.

 

Would love to see how the heart rate compares to the two rides

 

Same rider / same route – only the bikes difference

Put on a nice graph indicating heart rate  / elevation / speed  / distance etc.

Maybe the “Hub testing / reviewing team” can do such test under controlled conditions. :whistling: 

Odinson

Mar 7, 2017, 12:48 PM

I encourage all the e-MTB naysayer to put their prejudices aside and make an effort to find and test ride an e-MTB. Please. Once you've done that, come back to this thread and provide feedback.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 12:51 PM

A newbie now has the ability to take on a tough climb .... let's use that mother of a climb at the end to reach the mast at Conters, and then access the Black Route. That person is in a world of difficulty here RE skill vs trail conditions. Just an example.

 

E-Bikes are motorbike, no argument of it being restricted to 25km and being pedal assist will change my views on this. It is no longer a human only powered means of transport. Now the decision has to be made as to whether this form of transport is to be allowed on the MTB trails. Personally I have mixed feelings, but I am still leaning to a No Access mindset.

 

As I have noted before, over riding the regulated E-Bikes is a very simple process, and not one that anybody will be able to visually assess or control at the entry point to a trail. 

 

To be clear, there is NOT a "we're all in agreement" consensus RE E-Bikes on the trails even if they do have the 25km control, etc in place. Even more so if these controls are de regulated.

Sorry Hairy, badly worded on my part. I meant that when it comes to deregulated e-bikes, those monsters that you posted earlier and those which do not require pedal input to engage the motor, we agree that they should not be on trails, and they should not be classified as e-mtb's. 

 

Where we differ is whether that approach of banning them should extend to those which are regulated, do require pedal input and do not have a throttle (like a standard Levo)

 

IE You see them as the same thing: Motorised bicycles. We (the ones who really don't care about their presence) see a delineation. One is okay, one is not. 

 

Re the oke at the top of Conties. That's a straw man argument. There are PLENTY flippin fit riders who will make it to the top of the mast without a problem, yet not attempt the black route as they do not have the skill for it. Will being on an e-mtb change that? I doubt it very much. 

Hairy

Mar 7, 2017, 12:56 PM

These people will still not be able to ride down a trail, and will most likely end up with a broken clavicle or with torn ACLs.

see my post at 2:44pm

Hairy

Mar 7, 2017, 12:57 PM

I encourage all the e-MTB naysayer to put their prejudices aside and make an effort to find and test ride an e-MTB. Please. Once you've done that, come back to this thread and provide feedback.

I have tested one on the road .... does that count.

MTBeer

Mar 7, 2017, 1:00 PM

I can't quite find an argument against e-bikes that will stand up to a decent counter-argument. But they just don't 'feel' right.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 1:01 PM

I have tested one on the road .... does that count.

No. LOL. 

 

See here. 

rudi-h

Mar 7, 2017, 1:02 PM

this is like fighting against 29'ers in 2008...

 

like it or not, in 10 years from now there will be e-bikes all over our trails, in the CTCT, marathon races, enduro races and everywhere else you look.  I won't ever own one, but it will still be all around us me thinks..  Is it bad?

 

I don't know, more riders on our trails means safer trails and more riders also bring more trails.  Just maybe, because e-MTB's are typically plus sized 160mm trail machines, we might even see an increase and gnarly stuff cause the e-bike brigade might be more inclined than the hard core marathoners to ride jumps etc. as they won't be as fixated with Strava KOM's.

 

Let them come.  If it's shyte, the e-bike boom will slow down, but who knows it might just get better

Hairy

Mar 7, 2017, 1:03 PM

No. LOL. 

 

See here. 

why not, I know how it feels under acceleration.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 1:09 PM

why not, I know how it feels under acceleration.

because acceleration on a flat road does not equate to the conditions on the trail. Watch the vid - you'll see what I mean. 

MTBeer

Mar 7, 2017, 1:09 PM

No. LOL. 

 

See here. 

I just saw Batty in the video title.

 

Imagine my disappointment :thumbdown:

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 1:14 PM

I just saw Batty in the video title.

 

Imagine my disappointment :thumbdown:

same...

MTBeer

Mar 7, 2017, 1:23 PM

same...

who's that in the video? Must have seen him around Tygerberg.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 1:28 PM

who's that in the video? Must have seen him around Tygerberg.

Wayne Schell. Should have seen him riding around on either an Ibis Ripley or a Mojo 3 in baby blue. He's always on Tygerberg. Lately he's been testing more bikes for his youtjoop channel. Really lekker oke, and blitzvinnig when he wants to be. 

Patchelicious

Mar 7, 2017, 1:30 PM

I can't quite find an argument against e-bikes that will stand up to a decent counter-argument. But they just don't 'feel' right.

I think you will find lots of people who sit in this slot. This means we will see lots of people withdifficult to substantiate yet emotive arguements for the foreseeable future.

 

Fun times we are in for.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 1:32 PM

I think you will find lots of people who sit in this slot. This means we will see lots of people withdifficult to substantiate yet emotive arguements for the foreseeable future.

 

Fun times we are in for.

pick a side and be a dick about it, IOW. 

MTBeer

Mar 7, 2017, 1:32 PM

Wayne Schell. Should have seen him riding around on either an Ibis Ripley or a Mojo 3 in baby blue. He's always on Tygerberg. Lately he's been testing more bikes for his youtjoop channel. Really lekker oke, and blitzvinnig when he wants to be. 

yup that's him. rode behind him one day at Conters. he r quick.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 1:36 PM

yup that's him. rode behind him one day at Conters. he r quick.

Yeah. My claim to fame is that I was able to stay with him down Paarl playground line on our shuttle day. Okay, I'd partaken in a bit of libations before that particular run... But as soon as it got to the A line and more tech bits... took off like a hare. 

stefmeister

Mar 7, 2017, 1:57 PM

No. LOL. 

 

See here. 

Where's this trail in the video, didn't catch that?

MTBeer

Mar 7, 2017, 1:59 PM

Where's this trail in the video, didn't catch that?

couple of different trails. Didn't watch the whole video, but first trail was Contermans. There was also Jonkers in there. Looked like Firehut Trail?

stefmeister

Mar 7, 2017, 2:01 PM

couple of different trails. Didn't watch the whole video, but first trail was Contermans. There was also Jonkers in there. Looked like Firehut Trail?

thanx

Yeah, first one, also didn't watch the whole video.

 

Seems like I must make the effort to go ride Contermans then.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 7, 2017, 2:02 PM

thanx

Yeah, first one, also didn't watch the whole video.

Contermanskloof from the mast. A line then revised. 

stefmeister

Mar 7, 2017, 2:03 PM

Contermanskloof from the mast. A line then revised. 

:thumbup:

Hairy

Mar 7, 2017, 2:05 PM

No. LOL. 

 

See here. 

I really enjoy his vids and reviews ..... but let's be seriaaass here .... how can we take a guy who calls Zebra's "Zeeebras" like a 'Merican :P

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