Kevin Evans accepts doping charge

And David Millar cam out yesterday to say "This is the greatest ever generation of Grand Tour riders”

I get he's an advocate for anti doping but he's not exactly the cheers squad that I'd want giving me props.

Vets gets tested almost every race.  I have been tested a couple of times. 

Spidey, you and I must be doing different races. I've been racing sub-vets for five years. Been on the podium multiple times, even at SA champs, and I've only ever been tested once - at 94.7 one year. And that was just urine. So I think a vet who wanted to blood dope could do it without any fear of getting popped. 

But I agree with you; the money is better spent on testing the elites and u23. 

The timeline seems to be an issue and keeps getting referred to, so here's a go at it...feel free to add to it, take away from it, draw pictures of your mom on it...

2010 - “diagnosed with empyema and had repeated episodes of intra-abdominal sepsis due to an appendectomy performed at the end of 2010”.

MTN #2 Barberton          Ultra Marathon 29 Jan 2011         5              1.67

October 2012 - undergoes operation to drain and remove an abscess in his abdomen.

MTN XCM #8 Ride Crater Cruise                Ultra Marathon 13 Oct 2012         1              0

Edit - will slip this in: November 2012, DG tests positive for EPO...after biological passport anomalies were detected, gets two-year ban

December 2012 - Evans second appendectomy, further abdominal surgery.

MTN XCM #1 Barberton driven by Nissan             MTN XCM #1 Barberton driven...              Generic 110km  26 Jan 2013                14           1.67

February 2013 - similar procedure to drain another abscess

The Herals VW Cycle Tour            Generic 80km    02 Feb 2013        8              1.67

September 2013 - emergency tracheotomy surgery due to an abscess bursting through his diaphragm into the lung, resulting in 10 days in Intensive Care (ICU) with a cardio thoracic surgeon.

September 13th and 19th - two blood transfusions in ICU in order to keep him alive. Quacks says he needs ozone

Sept 2013 - KE listed in results for PE2Plett - Pe 2 Plett was between the 14th till the 17th in 2013?

PE to Plett MTB Generic Stage Race 373km           14 Sep 2013        21, 4, 3, 9             2.92

Tested a mere two weeks out of ICU, hence high values...

Unclear exactly when it started, how long it lasted, etc: “I underwent Ozone therapy, having applied for a TUE but it was denied. I went ahead..."

Sani2C Race        Generic Stage Race 265km           14 May 2015       10, 6, 10                3.79

Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Generic Stage Race 819km           24 Apr 2015         232, 290, 98, 88  5.01

Absa Cape EPIC Absa Cape EPIC Generic Stage Race 748km           15 Mar 2015        28, 26, 22, 37, 69, 49, 95, 35          3.45

Garden Route 300           Garden Route 300           Generic Stage Race 505km           27 Feb 2015        1, 6, 8    1.79

Ashburton Investments National MTB Series #2 - Sabie Ashburton Investments...            Ultra      21 Feb 2015        8                1.79

Momentum Health DualX #4 - Van Gaalen           Momentum Health DualX #4 -...                Full         23 Oct 2014         5                53.56

ISUZU 3 Towers Stage RACE        ISUZU 3 Towers Stage RACE        Generic Stage Race 193km           03 Oct 2014         16, 38, 28    0.01

Karoo2Coast      Karoo2Coast      Generic 100km  21 Sep 2014        3              0.01

MTN XCM #8 Crater Cruise Driven by Nissan       MTN XCM #8 Crater Cruise...      Ultra      13 Sep 2014        2              0.01

UCI MTB Marathon World Champs - Rainbow Challenge                UCI MTB Marathon World...        Elite Men             27 Jun 2014               27           0.1

MTN XCM #7 Hilton Driven by Nissan      MTN XCM #7 Hilton Driven by...                Ultra      22 Jun 2014         7              0.1

MTN XCM #6 Van Gaalen Driven by Nissan          MTN XCM #6 Van Gaalen...         Ultra      14 Jun 2014         3              0.1

MTN XCM #5 Rooiberg Driven by Nissan               MTN XCM #5 Rooiberg Driven...                Ultra      24 May 2014       3                0.71

Sani2C Race        Sani2C Race        Generic Stage Race 265km           15 May 2014       2, 2, 11  0.71

Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Generic Stage Race 787km           25 Apr 2014         5, 12, 5, 6, 22, 6, 10, 1                3.32

Absa Cape EPIC Absa Cape EPIC Generic Stage Race 694km           23 Mar 2014        7, 15, 12, 16, 97, 40, 38, 15             3.32

MTN XCM #2 Sabie Driven by Nissan       MTN XCM #2 Sabie Driven by... Ultra      22 Feb 2014        3              5.33

Bridgestone Route 66 MTB Experience  Bridgestone Route 66 MTB...      Generic Stage Race 205km           14 Feb 2014                1, 1, 1    6.66

MTN XCM #1 Dullstroom Driven by Nissan           MTN XCM #1 Dullstroom...          Ultra      08 Feb 2014        11           6.66

The Herald Cycle Tour MTB          The Herald Cycle Tour MTB          Generic 80km    01 Feb 2014        4              6.66

Attakwas             Attakwas             Generic 121km  18 Jan 2014         7              6.66

*2014 and 2015 - accused of “doping after identifying serious irregularities in his Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) – a profile of the athlete’s blood parameters”.

"suspicious readings were identified over a period of time therefore the athlete’s results extending back to 14 March 2014 will be recommended to Cycling SA for disqualification. He will be banned from sport for four years as of 4 March 2015."

2016 - the announcement...

*SAIDS is rather vague about when exactly Evans was actually charged, or informed, or whatever...

The beauty in these threads is the self righteous hypocrisy.

Some act as if they are the finest genetic specimens and will never circumstances to illness.

Then there are those who hero worship. Their idols never dope nor their anti hero's all dope lol

 

What great entertainment

I am afraid you still have the cat by the hairy balls.....Sauser is not a hero of mine at all....but if it that makes you happy...have at it 

Oh and GLuvs said it so well 

Nope.. only cycling names and shames.. the press is only interested in the cycling doping. .not at all interested in making a fuss about doping in RUGBY. . Never.. how could they possibly shine a light on the doping in not just high level rugby..but schools rugby.

 

So the skinder is that of the players in a 23 man high school first team squad if they had to be bust only 4 wouldn't serve bans.. I wish I knew more and not just skinder. . Cause I swear if i actually knew more I would most def give details to anti doping..

 

Maybe it should become my mission lol

I remember a while ago (maybe a couple of years) there was issues around school boy rugby and doping.

I heard (unconfirmed) its the institutions that was giving the kids the stuff to get better. Some of these stories came out of good schools where the parents have a lot of money to put the kids in so a few grand a month isn't a big expense, whether the parents know about it or now.

Chili boy (blou bulle) was banned a while ago for using a pre workout (i think it was the earlier versions of jack 3d can't remember) with banned stuff in it and he was kicked out of rugby for a while.

Found an article.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Chiliboy-handed-two-year-doping-ban-20150907

So no, its not just cycling, its just because you are interested in cycling that you read more about it.

... and some sit behind their keyboards and judge those who have opinions about the topic at hand... we are all lovely people...

I have noticed that is what you do best yes

All right. Let's keep the fight for those pesky cheats, dealers and spin doctor's.

I have noticed that is what you do best yes

Not sure what you are getting at raptor?

Bikehub threads would be pretty stale without opinions and people being judgmental? 

If it annoys you you can always stick to the classifieds?

Not sure what you are getting at raptor?

 

Bikehub threads would be pretty stale without opinions and people being judgmental? 

 

If it annoys you you can always stick to the classifieds?

Even the classifieds are annoying, and its not so much opinion that is annoying, but opinion that differs from your own that is annoying (or did I miss something?).

The timeline seems to be an issue and keeps getting referred to, so here's a go at it...feel free to add to it, take away from it, draw pictures of your mom on it...

 

 

2010 - “diagnosed with empyema and had repeated episodes of intra-abdominal sepsis due to an appendectomy performed at the end of 2010”.

 

 

MTN #2 Barberton          Ultra Marathon 29 Jan 2011         5              1.67

 

October 2012 - undergoes operation to drain and remove an abscess in his abdomen.

 

MTN XCM #8 Ride Crater Cruise                Ultra Marathon 13 Oct 2012         1              0

 

Edit - will slip this in: November 2012, DG tests positive for EPO...after biological passport anomalies were detected, gets two-year ban

 

December 2012 - Evans second appendectomy, further abdominal surgery.

 

MTN XCM #1 Barberton driven by Nissan             MTN XCM #1 Barberton driven...              Generic 110km  26 Jan 2013                14           1.67

 

February 2013 - similar procedure to drain another abscess

 

The Herals VW Cycle Tour            Generic 80km    02 Feb 2013        8              1.67

 

September 2013 - emergency tracheotomy surgery due to an abscess bursting through his diaphragm into the lung, resulting in 10 days in Intensive Care (ICU) with a cardio thoracic surgeon.

 

 

 

September 13th and 19th - two blood transfusions in ICU in order to keep him alive. Quacks says he needs ozone

 

Sept 2013 - KE listed in results for PE2Plett - Pe 2 Plett was between the 14th till the 17th in 2013?

 

PE to Plett MTB Generic Stage Race 373km           14 Sep 2013        21, 4, 3, 9             2.92

 

 

Tested a mere two weeks out of ICU, hence high values...

 

Unclear exactly when it started, how long it lasted, etc: “I underwent Ozone therapy, having applied for a TUE but it was denied. I went ahead..."

 

 

Sani2C Race        Generic Stage Race 265km           14 May 2015       10, 6, 10                3.79

Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Generic Stage Race 819km           24 Apr 2015         232, 290, 98, 88  5.01

Absa Cape EPIC Absa Cape EPIC Generic Stage Race 748km           15 Mar 2015        28, 26, 22, 37, 69, 49, 95, 35          3.45

Garden Route 300           Garden Route 300           Generic Stage Race 505km           27 Feb 2015        1, 6, 8    1.79

Ashburton Investments National MTB Series #2 - Sabie Ashburton Investments...            Ultra      21 Feb 2015        8                1.79

Momentum Health DualX #4 - Van Gaalen           Momentum Health DualX #4 -...                Full         23 Oct 2014         5                53.56

ISUZU 3 Towers Stage RACE        ISUZU 3 Towers Stage RACE        Generic Stage Race 193km           03 Oct 2014         16, 38, 28    0.01

Karoo2Coast      Karoo2Coast      Generic 100km  21 Sep 2014        3              0.01

MTN XCM #8 Crater Cruise Driven by Nissan       MTN XCM #8 Crater Cruise...      Ultra      13 Sep 2014        2              0.01

UCI MTB Marathon World Champs - Rainbow Challenge                UCI MTB Marathon World...        Elite Men             27 Jun 2014               27           0.1

MTN XCM #7 Hilton Driven by Nissan      MTN XCM #7 Hilton Driven by...                Ultra      22 Jun 2014         7              0.1

MTN XCM #6 Van Gaalen Driven by Nissan          MTN XCM #6 Van Gaalen...         Ultra      14 Jun 2014         3              0.1

MTN XCM #5 Rooiberg Driven by Nissan               MTN XCM #5 Rooiberg Driven...                Ultra      24 May 2014       3                0.71

Sani2C Race        Sani2C Race        Generic Stage Race 265km           15 May 2014       2, 2, 11  0.71

Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Old Mutual JoBerg2c      Generic Stage Race 787km           25 Apr 2014         5, 12, 5, 6, 22, 6, 10, 1                3.32

Absa Cape EPIC Absa Cape EPIC Generic Stage Race 694km           23 Mar 2014        7, 15, 12, 16, 97, 40, 38, 15             3.32

MTN XCM #2 Sabie Driven by Nissan       MTN XCM #2 Sabie Driven by... Ultra      22 Feb 2014        3              5.33

Bridgestone Route 66 MTB Experience  Bridgestone Route 66 MTB...      Generic Stage Race 205km           14 Feb 2014                1, 1, 1    6.66

MTN XCM #1 Dullstroom Driven by Nissan           MTN XCM #1 Dullstroom...          Ultra      08 Feb 2014        11           6.66

The Herald Cycle Tour MTB          The Herald Cycle Tour MTB          Generic 80km    01 Feb 2014        4              6.66

Attakwas             Attakwas             Generic 121km  18 Jan 2014         7              6.66

 

*2014 and 2015 - accused of “doping after identifying serious irregularities in his Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) – a profile of the athlete’s blood parameters”.

"suspicious readings were identified over a period of time therefore the athlete’s results extending back to 14 March 2014 will be recommended to Cycling SA for disqualification. He will be banned from sport for four years as of 4 March 2015."

 

 

 

2016 - the announcement...

 

*SAIDS is rather vague about when exactly Evans was actually charged, or informed, or whatever...

Interesting.....

Not sure what you are getting at raptor?

 

Bikehub threads would be pretty stale without opinions and people being judgmental? 

 

If it annoys you you can always stick to the classifieds?

Not annoying me at all. Its just interesting how hypocritical people are willing to be just to say something. Its an interesting behavior isn't it.

Not annoying me at all. Its just interesting how hypocritical people are willing to be just to say something. Its an interesting behavior isn't it.

Some might disagree.

There have been over 30,000 hits on this thread, not bad for a thread filled with hypocritical people and uninteresting behavior.

Some might disagree.

 

There have been over 30,000 hits on this thread, not bad for a thread filled with hypocritical people and uninteresting behavior.

I sat there being amused by a dog chasing its tail, thinking how easily the dog is amused by its own tail, then I realised that I was amused by a dog chase its tail...

I'm scared to offer an opinion now... but in anycase, some interesting reading http://www.spankingfit.com/world-wide-pandemic-caused-gene-doping/ and of course, take it where it comes from!

" The source of the current world wide health crisis has finally been identified: genetic doping activities in professional sports! Contagious virus vectors, developed to insert high performance genes into players’ genomes, are causing the current cancerous pandemic.

News headlines such as these certainly are frightening. Luckily, up to now, they are fictional only. Nevertheless, they may actually portend a future health crisis, if gene doping practices continue as such in professional sports. In this piece, Spanking FIT examines the potential for such a crisis to occur; but, first, we quickly review the findings of our prior investigation of traditional doping with focus on the Lance Armstrong affair.".....

They need to make doping a criminal offense  as it is in Italy- Remember the police arresting Festina at the TDF in 19??

 Ken now just sits back and says he is retired. IT IS FRAUD !

How many guys has he ridden out of a possible sponsorship? How much money did he earn as a pro cyclist. If he could be charged with fraud it would be a different ball game

Thing is, it's pretty hard to fix the outcome of a cycling race. Doping seems like it would be more a sort of attempted fraud rather than an actual fraud.

Not annoying me at all. Its just interesting how hypocritical people are willing to be just to say something. Its an interesting behavior isn't it.

Definition of hypocrisy. plural hy·poc·ri·sies. : the quality of acting in a way that goes against claimed beliefs or feelings. (Merriman-Webster)

Perhaps you could point out one or two specific examples within this thread? I don't know anyone in this thread personally so it's not possible for me to assess behaviour against stated claims. Maybe you do know some of the people and can therefore accurately label them as hypocrites.

Thing is, it's pretty hard to fix the outcome of a cycling race. Doping seems like it would be more a sort of attempted fraud rather than an actual fraud.

lance made it look like its easy. 

If they dope, lock them up... some potential time as the little spoon might make them consider their actions a little more carefully 

And if they are innocent, they will find the money to defend themselves I can assure you, not just waltz off and leave the sport 'that has given them so much" in the quagmire once again 

lance made it look like its easy. 

True, but he's Texan. They do stuff bigger than anyone else...

True, but he's Texan. They do stuff bigger than anyone else...

I my best southern voice..

Right on.....breakfast, yea

Rather unfortunate association for Max (from the Hub cover article today)...:

"

During his three Ultra marathon wins, he left only dust in the eyes of the other cyclists such as Kevin Evans, ..."

If they dope, lock them up... some potential time as the little spoon might make them consider their actions a little more carefully 

 

And if they are innocent, they will find the money to defend themselves I can assure you, not just waltz off and leave the sport 'that has given them so much" in the quagmire once again 

Although i do agree that harsh punishments are not unwarrented for PRO cyclists, what do you suggest for the recreational cyclist who gets caught for something banned? They arent there making a living of the sport, dont take away sponsorships and sometimes are unaware off the banned list. Hence the problem overall. Once you set a precident, it needs to be applied equally across the board. So servere punishments are givene, but jail time is maybe a stretch to far?

Could they perhaps publish a list of cyclists that DON'T have abnormalities in their blood passport. . Genade..

....lol .. thats gonna be a very short list ...

Although i do agree that harsh punishments are not unwarrented for PRO cyclists, what do you suggest for the recreational cyclist who gets caught for something banned? They arent there making a living of the sport, dont take away sponsorships and sometimes are unaware off the banned list. Hence the problem overall. Once you set a precident, it needs to be applied equally across the board. So servere punishments are givene, but jail time is maybe a stretch to far?

It is probably only the riders with full racing licenses, that would get tested?

WTF!!