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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 8:08 AM

The eBike weight point does raise another question when it comes to kids.

 

When buying a bike that weighs the same the rider, doesn't that worry other trail users a little?

 

Mambats lightie clearly shreds its harder than most of adults on here, so the question is not aimed at him. Its a more general question. I know that if I had to try and control an eBike that weighs 80kgs that I would be a safety hazard.

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 8:17 AM

Whenever i see an ebike i automatically judge the rider. I attribute qualities of weakness, laziness, entitlement to them without even knowing their story. This is accompanied by feelings of superiority and moral righteousness. I can't help myself. I recognise that this is pure prejudice and bigotry but that doesn't stop the feelings.

 

I suffer the same thing. And then when an eBike rider with boep and zero riding skills get to the top just before you and then you are stuck behind the thing on the st = anger.

GaryP

May 16, 2019, 8:30 AM

Whenever i see an ebike i automatically judge the rider. I attribute qualities of weakness, laziness, entitlement to them without even knowing their story. This is accompanied by feelings of superiority and moral righteousness. I can't help myself. I recognise that this is pure prejudice and bigotry but that doesn't stop the feelings.

 

Now that is an honest response...!  :thumbup:

GaryP

May 16, 2019, 8:33 AM

I have been looking for some actual research on the subject. Not sure if this has been posted before but here is one:

 

https://b.3cdn.net/bikes/c3fe8a28f1a0f32317_g3m6bdt7g.pdf

 

Basically the conclusion is: "This study found that the impacts from Class 1 eMTBs and traditional mountain bicycles were not significantly different, while motorcycles led to much greater soil displacement and erosion. Observations suggest that Class 1 eMTBs may lead to more displacement under certain trail conditions. More research is needed before conclusions can be drawn regarding the environmental impacts of Class 1 eMTBs as compared with traditional mountain bicycles".

marko35s

May 16, 2019, 8:43 AM

You dont need to do trail maintenance to be able to see the damage to trails. You can just ride the trail also to see the type of damage, and all damage I have seen is from mtbs and not from water.

Sorry but no.

A large amount of time and effort is expended dealing with the effects of water run off on trails.

I'm no fan of ebikes (I tend to hiss like an angry badger when I see one) but they in their current guise are not going to tear up trails any more than a normal bike with a 'panic braker' riding.

Duane_Bosch

May 16, 2019, 8:43 AM

I suffer the same thing. And then when an eBike rider with boep and zero riding skills get to the top just before you and then you are stuck behind the thing on the st = anger.

Same. But they never get to the top just before me. it's always LOOOOOOOONNG before me.

MrJacques

May 16, 2019, 8:43 AM

Also depends on how you ride. If you're skidding around corners and roosting berms you can cause a lot of damage on a normal mtb.

GaryP

May 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

Also depends on how you ride. If you're skidding around corners and roosting berms you can cause a lot of damage on a normal mtb.

True that. I am a generally cautious rider who cares about his teeth and bones. However, on one race I did, a dude with no such qualms came tearing down the hill behind me riding with a lot more skill and speed but with much skidding and sliding. Looked like fun but had no concern whatsoever about the results of that skidding an sliding  :D

Headshot

May 16, 2019, 9:14 AM

An Ebike makes about 500w which is less than 1 BHP. It also weighs about 25kg. So very little difference to a strong rider on a normal bike.

 

A motocross bike makes about 30bhp and the wheels go a LOT faster. The tires are designed to tear at the ground. They also weigh more than 120kg so your logic is off.

 

They are loads of fun and they are here to stay.

Yep...

 

edit. That does not of course mean that there will be blanket acceptance of them or that they will have unfettered access to all trails. In the US there are already bans in certain places I think

rorydewet

May 16, 2019, 9:25 AM

Who said he cant?

 

I asked why he does, based on his statement that his son is small and having an eBike helps him keep up with his dad. That makes sense, but it doesn't square back to why the dad has one. so I asked. I am allowed to ask, he doesn't need to answer.

this is what s so wrong in south africa nowdays

 

everyone worrying about other peoples stuff

 

wanting to know about stuff that is private

 

what makes you entitled to ask him about his private stuff

 

your excuse that he doesn't have to answer is very weak

 

its frankly none of your business

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

May 16, 2019, 9:30 AM

Sorry but no.

A large amount of time and effort is expended dealing with the effects of water run off on trails.

I'm no fan of ebikes (I tend to hiss like an angry badger when I see one) but they in their current guise are not going to tear up trails any more than a normal bike with a 'panic braker' riding.

This. Water is the primary cause of erosion on trails. Panic brakers & roosters second. Then rogue building & removal of obstacles on teh trail (a continual problem)

 

Walkers rank above MTB's and eMTB's in terms of damage to trails. 

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 9:36 AM

this is what s so wrong in south africa nowdays

 

everyone worrying about other peoples stuff

 

wanting to know about stuff that is private

 

what makes you entitled to ask him about his private stuff

 

your excuse that he doesn't have to answer is very weak

 

its frankly none of your business

Erm, then why did he come and post it on a public forum.... asking him why rides an eBike is NOT a big deal.

 

Don't get involved in my discussions with other people, its frankly non of your business.

 

On a side note: To type the capital case of any letter, hold down the shift key while typing the letterkey. You will notice there are two shift keys on your keyboard - one on each side. You should press the shift key with the pinky finger of the hand opposite the one you are typing the letter with.

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 9:40 AM

this is what s so wrong in south africa nowdays

 

everyone worrying about other peoples stuff

 

wanting to know about stuff that is private

 

what makes you entitled to ask him about his private stuff

 

your excuse that he doesn't have to answer is very weak

 

its frankly none of your business

 

Yeah if everybody just mind their own business it will solve most of the problems in SA.

rorydewet

May 16, 2019, 9:44 AM

Yeah if everybody just mind their own business it will solve most of the problems in SA.

agree

 

South Africa has more important public issues than a dad riding an e bike with his son

 

so lets cut the dude some slack to manage his private affairs

rorydewet

May 16, 2019, 9:46 AM

wow

 

only 2 points from you reply worth responding too

 

see below

 

guess no double standards in the below

 

Erm, then why did he come and post it on a public forum.... asking him why rides an eBike is NOT a big deal.

 

Don't get involved in my discussions with other people, its frankly non of your business.

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 9:51 AM

wow

 

only 2 points from you reply worth responding too

 

see below

 

guess no double standards in the below

Maybe you need one of these.

 

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I even popped in a "frankly" for you to make it more obvious. I see you also didn't notice Ascensions sarcasm font.

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 9:56 AM

agree

 

South Africa has more important public issues than a dad riding an e bike with his son

 

so lets cut the dude some slack to manage his private affairs

 

He rode the eBike in public and then posted about it on a public forum, and I want to know why he is riding an eBike. I need to make sense of this.

rorydewet

May 16, 2019, 9:59 AM

He rode the eBike in public and then posted about it on a public forum, and I want to know why he is riding an eBike. I need to make sense of this.

 he replied to a post about himself on a public forum

 

that fact doesn't mean he now needs to be whipped at dawn for defending himself and further denigrated on said public forum

 

but i don't think your issue is with him

 

i sense a deeper underlying issue with e bikes per se

 

its okay you can admit it

 

admitting is first part of healing and acceptance

arendoog

May 16, 2019, 10:00 AM

The big question is .Canhttps://youtu.be/0_zeHWK0iE0 you wheelie an ebike 

Shebeen

May 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

Mambat some nice pics !

 

Clearly your son knows how to handle a bike.

 

 

 

 

Sorry, still "looks wrong" to see a kid on an ebike .... not meant as a shitty reply.  Just not something we are used to seeing .....

 

Buy hey, if it works for your family, GO for it.  Frankly, it is about getting out there, whatever your mode of transport.

 

 

 

 

PS - Our little one is turning 8 next month .... and the way his riding has improved over the last 2 years I may well have to get an ebike soon enough to keep up with him ...  :eek:

 

This whole post "looks wrong", as someone who enjoys riding with his kid it seems incredibly condescending to judge someone else doing exactly the same.

Shebeen

May 16, 2019, 10:11 AM

That would be me............. and thanks for the compliment of being called thirty something :thumbup:

 

This would be my son and yes he has just turned 9..... you all welcome to come try keep up with him......

on the DOWNS :ph34r:

 

"I am SURE it can be "justified" .... but it just looked SO wrong seeing an able bodied kid on an ebike ......"

Pretty shitty remark mate????

 

Riding e-bikes together has vastly improved his skill set and his fitness. You try throwing around a bike

that weighs the same as you. My son weighs 26Kg his Giant Stance (Size small not junior-size?) weighs around 24Kg.

 

It has also allowed us to ride all the trails in the Durbanville Hills network. Unbelievable father and son time together where we both can compete like for like. I dont see many other eight year olds doing sub 3:50's

down the Cobra or wait............. see many eight years olds full stop on those trails.

 

And for the record my son has a dirt jump bike, bmx and a Giant Trance but the best times we have TOGETHER is on our ebikes.

 

ChrisF - Maybe come join us for an e-Bike ride.... You welcome to borrow my wife's and see if you can keep up? Both on the ups and the downs  :whistling:  :devil:  :whistling:

 

I warn you once you go E.... there is no turning back!

rad dude, i guess you're used to getting comments from peanut gallery!

 

is this the bike your kid has got?

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/za/bikes-stance-eplus-2019

DieselnDust

May 16, 2019, 10:13 AM

Agree with you, however the questions being posed here is should electric motorbikes be allowed on MTB trails?

 

 

electric Motorcycle is not an e-bike, so no.

 

I think someone alread touched on this. Motorcycle has a throtle

e-bike is an electric assisted bicycle.

Different in many ways and one of them requires licensing and homologation in terms of the Road Traffic act

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 10:16 AM

 he replied to a post about himself on a public forum

 

that fact doesn't mean he now needs to be whipped at dawn for defending himself and further denigrated on said public forum

 

but i don't think your issue is with him

 

i sense a deeper underlying issue with e bikes per se

 

its okay you can admit it

 

admitting is first part of healing and acceptance

 

After some introspection I came to the realization that I was traumatized by watching this South Park episode:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llt8rYCLd1Y

ChrisF

May 16, 2019, 10:21 AM

this is what s so wrong in south africa nowdays

 

everyone worrying about other peoples stuff

 

wanting to know about stuff that is private

 

what makes you entitled to ask him about his private stuff

 

your excuse that he doesn't have to answer is very weak

 

its frankly none of your business

 

You may get a fright if you joined us at our local trails, for coffee after the ride.

 

 

Riders talk to each other ... complete strangers strike up a conversation ....  I often speak to ebike riders.  Every single one that I spoke to have been nice people, and I enjoy hearing about the technology of their bikes.  What they like about what they have, and what they would buy next time.  

 

At no point has it ever been seen as "meddling" in others private business ....

rorydewet

May 16, 2019, 10:27 AM

You may get a fright if you joined us at our local trails, for coffee after the ride.

 

 

Riders talk to each other ... complete strangers strike up a conversation ....  I often speak to ebike riders.  Every single one that I spoke to have been nice people, and I enjoy hearing about the technology of their bikes.  What they like about what they have, and what they would buy next time.  

 

At no point has it ever been seen as "meddling" in others private business ....

we also drink coffee after a ride here in gauteng

 

also speak to people whilst riding next to them on a ride or in a race

 

so do talk to fellow cyclists

 

my post wasnt directed at you

 

some guy asked the guy who rode the e bike a direct question of why he rides an e bike

 

i thought that direct question was out of line

 

and i still do

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