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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Mambat

May 15, 2019, 2:54 PM

I have made a few replies on this thread about how ebikes allow "father-and-son" to enjoy the outdoors together .. yada yada ... and in my minds eye it was obvious I was talking about the 30-something son with his dad nearing retirement age ....

 

 

guess I should have been more specific ...

 

 

Saw a father-and-son ebikes at Meerendal. 

 

BOTH on ebikes ... okay that does not sound too wierd ...

 

The one being 30-something ... still not wierd ....

 

The other being 9 or 10 years old !!  :eek:   :eek:   JIP, boetie on his junior-size ebike joining dad on the trails ....

 

 

 

I am SURE it can be "justified" .... but it just looked SO wrong seeing an able bodied kid on an ebike ......

 

That would be me............. and thanks for the compliment of being called thirty something :thumbup:

 

This would be my son and yes he has just turned 9..... you all welcome to come try keep up with him......

on the DOWNS :ph34r:

 

"I am SURE it can be "justified" .... but it just looked SO wrong seeing an able bodied kid on an ebike ......"

Pretty shitty remark mate????

 

Riding e-bikes together has vastly improved his skill set and his fitness. You try throwing around a bike

that weighs the same as you. My son weighs 26Kg his Giant Stance (Size small not junior-size?) weighs around 24Kg.

 

It has also allowed us to ride all the trails in the Durbanville Hills network. Unbelievable father and son time together where we both can compete like for like. I dont see many other eight year olds doing sub 3:50's

down the Cobra or wait............. see many eight years olds full stop on those trails.

 

And for the record my son has a dirt jump bike, bmx and a Giant Trance but the best times we have TOGETHER is on our ebikes.

 

ChrisF - Maybe come join us for an e-Bike ride.... You welcome to borrow my wife's and see if you can keep up? Both on the ups and the downs  :whistling:  :devil:  :whistling: 

 

I warn you once you go E.... there is no turning back!

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ChrisF

May 15, 2019, 3:34 PM

Mambat some nice pics !

 

Clearly your son knows how to handle a bike.

 

 

 

 

Sorry, still "looks wrong" to see a kid on an ebike .... not meant as a shitty reply.  Just not something we are used to seeing .....

 

Buy hey, if it works for your family, GO for it.  Frankly, it is about getting out there, whatever your mode of transport.

 

 

 

 

PS - Our little one is turning 8 next month .... and the way his riding has improved over the last 2 years I may well have to get an ebike soon enough to keep up with him ...  :eek:

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 5:18 AM

That would be me............. and thanks for the compliment of being called thirty something :thumbup:

 

This would be my son and yes he has just turned 9..... you all welcome to come try keep up with him......

on the DOWNS :ph34r:

 

"I am SURE it can be "justified" .... but it just looked SO wrong seeing an able bodied kid on an ebike ......"

Pretty shitty remark mate????

 

Riding e-bikes together has vastly improved his skill set and his fitness. You try throwing around a bike

that weighs the same as you. My son weighs 26Kg his Giant Stance (Size small not junior-size?) weighs around 24Kg.

 

It has also allowed us to ride all the trails in the Durbanville Hills network. Unbelievable father and son time together where we both can compete like for like. I dont see many other eight year olds doing sub 3:50's

down the Cobra or wait............. see many eight years olds full stop on those trails.

 

And for the record my son has a dirt jump bike, bmx and a Giant Trance but the best times we have TOGETHER is on our ebikes.

 

ChrisF - Maybe come join us for an e-Bike ride.... You welcome to borrow my wife's and see if you can keep up? Both on the ups and the downs  :whistling:  :devil:  :whistling:

 

I warn you once you go E.... there is no turning back!

No its not, and if you cant see how it is a plain straight forward questions, well then there is little point in debating.

 

Can I ask why do you and your entire family ride eBikes? If its about your small son keeping up with you, why do you need an eBike too? Doesn't that counter the advantage it gives him?

MORNE

May 16, 2019, 5:41 AM

snip.

 

I warn you once you go E.... there is no turning back!

I concur, you'll suck riding a normal bicycle for the rest of your life? :whistling:  :D

Jewbacca

May 16, 2019, 5:44 AM

Why can't the guy ride an e-bike with his son?

 

Geez... Next people are going to be judged because they wear fleece in public and dress their children in tracksuits.

 

Stop being so judgy. It is obviously really special family time and it works. Why must he justify how he spends his time with his son to anyone? 

 

If I choose to paddle out on a soft top board when I teach my son to surf on a soft top, will other surfers judge me? No. They will be stoked that dad is teaching up a new shredder to join the line up. 

 

Get off your high horses. This is ridiculous

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 5:49 AM

Why can't the guy ride an e-bike with his son?

 

Geez... Next people are going to be judged because they wear fleece in public and dress their children in tracksuits.

 

Stop being so judgy. It is obviously really special family time and it works. Why must he justify how he spends his time with his son to anyone? 

 

If I choose to paddle out on a soft top board when I teach my son to surf on a soft top, will other surfers judge me? No. They will be stoked that dad is teaching up a new shredder to join the line up. 

 

Get off your high horses. This is ridiculous

Who said he cant?

 

I asked why he does, based on his statement that his son is small and having an eBike helps him keep up with his dad. That makes sense, but it doesn't square back to why the dad has one. so I asked. I am allowed to ask, he doesn't need to answer.

MORNE

May 16, 2019, 5:59 AM

snip

 

i know its a bit off topic and it will certainly trigger someone, but since it has already steered in that direction i'll ad this: 

 

To me it is more a question of what you are teaching a 7/8/9y old etc by getting them a ±R100k 'toy'....whatever it is. 

 

Anyway, i'll let myself out now. It's Friday tomorrow only :blush:

Jewbacca

May 16, 2019, 6:02 AM

Who said he cant?

 

I asked why he does, based on his statement that his son is small and having an eBike helps him keep up with his dad. That makes sense, but it doesn't square back to why the dad has one. so I asked. I am allowed to ask, he doesn't need to answer.

But why?

 

The tone and the direction pangs of judgement and persecution. I can understand that if he was doing something illegal or not quite kosher, but being asked to justify how he spends positive time with his boy is just wrong.

 

They are both having fun in a really harmless, good willed, positive manner. 

 

That should be answer enough and it's plain to see from the pictures.

 

I say good on you chap. Too many parents are too lazy to teach their children rad skills or even spend that quality one on one time with them.

 

I say give the man a bells for being a good dad. Not harass him for something which doesn't concern you 

Jewbacca

May 16, 2019, 6:06 AM

i know its a bit off topic and it will certainly trigger someone, but since it has already steered in that direction i'll ad this: 

 

To me it is more a question of what you are teaching a 7/8/9y old etc by getting them a ±R100k 'toy'....whatever it is. 

 

Anyway, i'll let myself out now. It's Friday tomorrow only :blush:

hahaha financial implications vary for everyone I suppose.

 

Some people have lots, some people borrow lots and most people don't have the option of either.

 

If nice toys come with appreciation and good values, there is no harm in it. But yes, if said toys are neglected and come with a sense of entitlement, one is just creating another self entitled spoiled brat.

 

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 6:15 AM

But why?

 

The tone and the direction pangs of judgement and persecution. I can understand that if he was doing something illegal or not quite kosher, but being asked to justify how he spends positive time with his boy is just wrong.

 

They are both having fun in a really harmless, good willed, positive manner.

 

That should be answer enough and it's plain to see from the pictures.

 

I say good on you chap. Too many parents are too lazy to teach their children rad skills or even spend that quality one on one time with them.

 

I say give the man a bells for being a good dad. Not harass him for something which doesn't concern you

One question on clarifying something that doesn’t square up, based on a post that he made is not “harassment” come on dude, that’s a bit dramatic.

 

Again, and as I have said many times before, I couldn’t care less if people ride eBikes. What often confuses me is the “justifications” that are given don’t always square up. There is nothing wrong with “because I want one”.

 

Maybe let him answer, if he feels like it. Unless you are the wife or the son, it doesn’t concern you either, so I guess we are in the same boat.

GaryP

May 16, 2019, 6:16 AM

I have been watching this thread with some interest. The only question I have is:

 

WHO CARES IF SOMEONE, OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL, CHOOSES TO RIDE AN EBIKE OR NOT?

 

Who am I to judge? So what if I don't like ebikes? So what if I do? 

 

The only thing that should matter, in my opinion, is that we all love riding our bikes, whether those are ebikes or not. That should surely be enough??

 

Cheers.

MrJacques

May 16, 2019, 6:25 AM

I have been watching this thread with some interest. The only question I have is:

 

WHO CARES IF SOMEONE, OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL, CHOOSES TO RIDE AN EBIKE OR NOT?

 

Who am I to judge? So what if I don't like ebikes? So what if I do? 

 

The only thing that should matter, in my opinion, is that we all love riding our bikes, whether those are ebikes or not. That should surely be enough??

 

Cheers.

 

As long as they don't rip up and damage trails, as motorcycles often do.

 

Not sure if it's been discussed here, but e-bikes are usually faster as well and could pose a an increased safety hazard over normal mtbs - for those riding them and other trail users?

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

As long as they don't rip up and damage trails, as motorcycles often do.

 

Not sure if it's been discussed here, but e-bikes are usually faster as well and could pose a an increased safety hazard over normal mtbs - for those riding them and other trail users?

 

This is exactly what is happening. eBikes are much heavier and faster (breaking ruts!) and can do much more damage to trails than a bicycle. As eBikes become more powerful and popular the damage to trails will be huge. More maintenance needed and permit prices will have to up. MTB trails should have had the rule in place, no motorized vehicles allowed!

GaryP

May 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

As long as they don't rip up and damage trails, as motorcycles often do.

 

Not sure if it's been discussed here, but e-bikes are usually faster as well and could pose a an increased safety hazard over normal mtbs - for those riding them and other trail users?

 

Hi Jacquers. I agree with you. These things should be thoroughly evaluated and appropriate action taken to, as far as possible, limit damage to the environment and improve safety on the trails for all trail users.

 

Cheers.

GaryP

May 16, 2019, 6:51 AM

This is exactly what is happening. eBikes are much heavier and faster (breaking ruts!) and can do much more damage to trails than a bicycle. As eBikes become more powerful and popular the damage to trails will be huge. More maintenance needed and permit prices will have to up. MTB trails should have had the rule in place, no motorized vehicles allowed!

 

Hi Ascension. If a bike park allows ebikes on its trails then it will need to thoroughly evaluate the impact that these bikes may have on the trails. Then, as is their prerogative, they will need to determine whether to charge all trail users or just the ebike users for any additional maintenance they may have to undertake.  

 

However, to be honest, I can't see how a unilateral decision to ban ebikes from trails will achieve anything constructive. Ciao.

Ashchest

May 16, 2019, 6:52 AM

My thinking is that perhaps in the future a new Niche will develop for pedal power only trails or sections -  based on cyclist who do not want to share trails with E-bikes for valid reasons.  Obviously there will also be trails for both.

 

Normal bikes and E-bikes automatically generate 2 categories because they are 2 different things, no question about that.   I think naturally over time more differentiation will takes place and the riders / cyclists will set the playing fields.

 

Anyway, I think it is time for me to go out for a pedal ....

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

Hi Ascension. If a bike park allows ebikes on its trails then it will need to thoroughly evaluate the impact that these bikes may have on the trails. Then, as is their prerogative, they will need to determine whether to charge all trail users or just the ebike users for any additional maintenance they may have to undertake.  

 

However, to be honest, I can't see how a unilateral decision to ban ebikes from trails will achieve anything constructive. Ciao.

 

I am not suggesting a unilateral banning of eBikes on trails. What I suggest is that if a motorbike is not allowed on the trail then that should include eBikes.

GaryP

May 16, 2019, 7:25 AM

I am not suggesting a unilateral banning of eBikes on trails. What I suggest is that if a motorbike is not allowed on the trail then that should include eBikes.

Hey. In my opinion, ebikes are not motorbikes even though they do have motors. I have personally seen the result of motorbikes on trails and again, in my opinion, their impact seemed much greater to me than ebikes. Cheers.

Duane_Bosch

May 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

I am not suggesting a unilateral banning of eBikes on trails. What I suggest is that if a motorbike is not allowed on the trail then that should include eBikes.

An Ebike makes about 500w which is less than 1 BHP. It also weighs about 25kg. So very little difference to a strong rider on a normal bike.

 

A motocross bike makes about 30bhp and the wheels go a LOT faster. The tires are designed to tear at the ground. They also weigh more than 120kg so your logic is off.

 

They are loads of fun and they are here to stay.

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 7:35 AM

An Ebike makes about 500w which is less than 1 BHP. It also weighs about 25kg. So very little difference to a strong rider on a normal bike.

 

A motocross bike makes about 30bhp and the wheels go a LOT faster. The tires are designed to tear at the ground. They also weigh more than 120kg so your logic is off.

 

They are loads of fun and they are here to stay.

 

But soon an eBike will make 2000w. 1 Motocross bike can rip up a mtb trail in 1 go. An eBike might not be able to that yes, but there will be many eBikes, and they will do major damage to trails compared to mtbs.

BigDL

May 16, 2019, 7:37 AM

I have been watching this thread with some interest. The only question I have is:

 

WHO CARES IF SOMEONE, OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL, CHOOSES TO RIDE AN EBIKE OR NOT?

 

Who am I to judge? So what if I don't like ebikes? So what if I do?

 

The only thing that should matter, in my opinion, is that we all love riding our bikes, whether those are ebikes or not. That should surely be enough??

 

Cheers.

Agree with you, however the questions being posed here is should electric motorbikes be allowed on MTB trails?

MrJacques

May 16, 2019, 7:47 AM

Agree with you, however the questions being posed here is should electric motorbikes be allowed on MTB trails?

 

I think they will do too much damage to the trails and be a safety risk to other trail users, so no.

Duane_Bosch

May 16, 2019, 7:49 AM

But soon an eBike will make 2000w. 1 Motocross bike can rip up a mtb trail in 1 go. An eBike might not be able to that yes, but there will be many eBikes, and they will do major damage to trails compared to mtbs.

So eBikes are going to quadruple their power output? I doubt that VERY much. Do you know this or did you just make that up?

 

What do you base your damage statement on? I've done a fair bit of trail maintenance in my time and most trail damage I've seen is as a result of water runoff.

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 7:58 AM

You dont need to do trail maintenance to be able to see the damage to trails. You can just ride the trail also to see the type of damage, and all damage I have seen is from mtbs and not from water.

Mamil

May 16, 2019, 8:07 AM

Whenever i see an ebike i automatically judge the rider. I attribute qualities of weakness, laziness, entitlement to them without even knowing their story. This is accompanied by feelings of superiority and moral righteousness. I can't help myself. I recognise that this is pure prejudice and bigotry but that doesn't stop the feelings.

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