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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

BuffsVintageBikes

Nov 7, 2018, 1:23 PM

The problem with that logic is that we have already maximised the minimum input/maximum output problem - we invented a motorbike. No input - all output.

 

 If we are forced to give it a name along the "efficiency improving line" then the ebike would be a gap closing regression I guess....

 

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

Goodbadugly

Nov 7, 2018, 1:30 PM

Why put pedals/drive train on e-bikes anyway? I am sure they can shave at least a kilo or so off the bike. Put the motor in the rear hub and use the "saved weight" for a bigger battery. That way you don't have to sweat at all.

Hairy

Nov 7, 2018, 1:36 PM

you sure that HR is not a result of the "I can't believe I am still alive" factor when hammering on the MX/Enduro bikes :P

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

Hairy

Nov 7, 2018, 1:37 PM

worst place to put weight on a bike, especially a dually

Why put pedals/drive train on e-bikes anyway? I am sure they can shave at least a kilo or so off the bike. Put the motor in the rear hub and use the "saved weight" for a bigger battery. That way you don't have to sweat at all.

Paddaman

Nov 7, 2018, 1:40 PM

https://youtu.be/66mWAWgUfi8?t=148

 

 

My new ebike

Goodbadugly

Nov 7, 2018, 1:46 PM

worst place to put weight on a bike, especially a dually

What does a motor weigh? A wide range cassette can easily weigh 500 grams (if you do not buy the R6k models)

Zatopek

Nov 7, 2018, 1:47 PM

The only ebike related arrangement I would like to see is an increased trail permit fee for them.

 

My argument is that if they can do more km's/up-down laps per time unit or per day, then they do more trail damage and need to contribute more to the maintenance of that. I don't see why I should subsidize their fun.

 

Other than that, "toggle that switch" and enjoy the spin....

Paddaman

Nov 7, 2018, 1:50 PM

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

You clearly never played chess because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the pieces move themselves?  Go google chess players HR outputs during play, it makes MX feel like riding e-bikes.

rorydewet

Nov 7, 2018, 2:07 PM

It seems the E-Roadbike will be next. Guess the KOm on Suikerbossie will be out of reach from now on. Ban them from Strava, it will make flagging rides a nightmare.

strava already caters for e bikes

 

on strava there is a pre set drop down for choosing type of ride as an e bike ride

Eldron

Nov 7, 2018, 2:12 PM

You're clearly never raced a motorbike because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the thing rides itself? Go google MX & Enduro riders HR outputs during training at racing, it makes cycling feel like playing chess.

 

The amount of energy the rider expends versus the motor is minuscule.

 

People make watts - engines make kilowatts.

 

To quote a recent poster - you have no idea watt you're talking about  :devil:

Dirkitech

Nov 8, 2018, 4:02 AM

The only ebike related arrangement I would like to see is an increased trail permit fee for them.

 

My argument is that if they can do more km's/up-down laps per time unit or per day, then they do more trail damage and need to contribute more to the maintenance of that. I don't see why I should subsidize their fun.

 

Other than that, "toggle that switch" and enjoy the spin....

That makes logical sense, just like heavier vehicles on the road contribute to higher maintenance costs, thereby attracting higher toll fees.

 

strava already caters for e bikes

 

on strava there is a pre set drop down for choosing type of ride as an e bike ride

That is true, but much like the multiquote feature provided for by bikehub, people are too lazy to change an option on both platforms

BuffsVintageBikes

Nov 8, 2018, 8:49 AM

You clearly never played chess because you have no idea what you're talking about. Do you think the pieces move themselves?  Go google chess players HR outputs during play, it makes MX feel like riding e-bikes.

 

I googled it because you got me thinking :whistling:  Their HRs simply spike during pressure plays but they don't remain elevated at all :P

lechatnoir

Nov 8, 2018, 9:40 AM

It seems the E-Roadbike will be next. Guess the KOm on Suikerbossie will be out of reach from now on. Ban them from Strava, it will make flagging rides a nightmare.

 

well, as I understand e-bikes, they offer assistance up to a maximum speed. i think L1e-A offer assistance up to 25kmh... seeing as the strava KOM average speed is >30kmh, i doubt it'll be an issue... 

Odinson

Nov 8, 2018, 9:44 AM

well, as I understand e-bikes, they offer assistance up to a maximum speed. i think L1e-A offer assistance up to 25kmh... seeing as the strava KOM average speed is >30kmh, i doubt it'll be an issue... 

 

Get your bike chipped and watch those pesky KOMs tumble. 

 

https://e-bike-tuning.nl/bosch/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA2o_fBRC8ARIsAIOyQ-mtY0sKSsAIlXXT15rmFxehq9S_S8HqjaTEuUK0l5ebvc2iQDg2YwEaArbjEALw_wcB

Hairy

Nov 8, 2018, 10:27 AM

A Spaz store in town changes the default Euro setting from 25km to 35km, which is the USA regulated setting. This then still keeps the bike within the manufacturers warranty scope.

 

Now I know from some riders it is very simple to further de regulate the speeds on the bikes and many do increase the assistance speed.

 

well, as I understand e-bikes, they offer assistance up to a maximum speed. i think L1e-A offer assistance up to 25kmh... seeing as the strava KOM average speed is >30kmh, i doubt it'll be an issue... 

Headshot

Nov 8, 2018, 10:34 AM

A Spaz store in town changes the default Euro setting from 25km to 35km, which is the USA regulated setting. This then still keeps the bike within the manufacturers warranty scope.

 

Now I know from some riders it is very simple to further de regulate the speeds on the bikes and many do increase the assistance speed.

That is a hairs breadth from being full moto. 

Selous Scout (aka LegTrap)

Nov 8, 2018, 10:47 AM

E-bikes are not only for the ‘fat & lazy’ ! They certainly do not mess up any trails and clearly should and will not compete in races other than their own category.As someone also previously mentioned,they have a maximum speed assistance of 25km/ hr which won’t therefore always be of assistance.

If it is going to get more people riding bikes then what is the problem !

Rather than retiring from cycling due to age/health issues etc,cyclists now have another option.

They are not totally dissimilar to one cyclist having a R5000 bike with lousy components and weighing a ton as opposed to someone else they are competing against with a R50 000 or even R100000 bike.

They are part of the future in cycling,so let’s accept that and ALL have some fun.

Rigardt@Scott

Nov 8, 2018, 10:59 AM

This thread...

 

Someone comes in and says: stop hating e-bikes

Someone else: we don't hate ebikes

Someone else: e-bikes only assist up to 25km/hr

Someone else: you can deregulate them

Someone else: they are fun, allow new/fat/old people to cycle

 

General consensus is reached: e-bikes are cool, fun, should be allowed on the trails, just don't race them.

 

Someone else who has not bothered to read the thread: STOP HATING EBIKES!

 

And so on and so on and so on... will this thread ever stop?

 

FFS, if you wanna comment on the topic at least read a few pages back.

Thor Buttox

Nov 8, 2018, 11:27 AM

This thread...

 

Someone comes in and says: stop hating e-bikes

Someone else: we don't hate ebikes

Someone else: e-bikes only assist up to 25km/hr

Someone else: you can deregulate them

Someone else: they are fun, allow new/fat/old people to cycle

 

General consensus is reached: e-bikes are cool, fun, should be allowed on the trails, just don't race them.

 

Someone else who has not bothered to read the thread: STOP HATING EBIKES!

 

And so on and so on and so on... will this thread ever stop?

 

FFS, if you wanna comment on the topic at least read a few pages back.

Or.... Wait to read a few pages later.
Odinson

Nov 8, 2018, 11:56 AM

This thread...

 

Someone comes in and says: stop hating e-bikes

Someone else: we don't hate ebikes

Someone else: e-bikes only assist up to 25km/hr

Someone else: you can deregulate them

Someone else: they are fun, allow new/fat/old people to cycle

 

General consensus is reached: e-bikes are cool, fun, should be allowed on the trails, just don't race them.

 

Someone else who has not bothered to read the thread: STOP HATING EBIKES!

 

And so on and so on and so on... will this thread ever stop?

 

FFS, if you wanna comment on the topic at least read a few pages back.

 

Did you just assume my consensus?!

Rigardt@Scott

Nov 8, 2018, 12:01 PM

Did you just assume my consensus?!

Consensus is a scale, not binary, I shouldn't have assumed where you (they/them) fall on the continuum. I apologize.

 

The patriarchy has endoctrinated my thinking.

LeoKnight

Nov 8, 2018, 12:06 PM

That makes logical sense, just like heavier vehicles on the road contribute to higher maintenance costs, thereby attracting higher toll fees.

 

That is true, but much like the multiquote feature provided for by bikehub, people are too lazy to change an option on both platforms

 

So does this mean they will get people to weight in at the start when you pitch up at the trails?  I mean someone skinny is riding the trail vs a overweight person then it will also be "fair" for them to be charged different.  

 

What about the back brake brigade?  Do they not damage the trails more?

Paddaman

Nov 8, 2018, 12:08 PM

But this is so much fun.

 

https://youtu.be/sFBOQzSk14c

Paddaman

Nov 8, 2018, 12:15 PM

Did you just assume my consensus?!

Did you just assume the source of my pedal power?

Odinson

Nov 8, 2018, 12:27 PM

Consensus is a scale, not binary, I shouldn't have assumed where you (they/them) fall on the continuum. I apologize.

 

The patriarchy has endoctrinated my thinking.

 

I feel violated *sniff* 

 

#metoo #partiarchymustfall

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