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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Headshot

Nov 8, 2018, 1:03 PM

I admit to feeling  irritated when the lady and her partner cruised past me on a climb because they had motor assistance. I think eBikes should be used on eBike only trails. Like roads.

LeoKnight

Nov 8, 2018, 1:30 PM

We can go around and around, but if you look at the forecast, there will be more and more of these bikes on the trails in future.  More of the races will include an e-bike category.  This will not change, who knows in a few years they might even have the ebikes road start in front of the tandem group.

 

So if you have a problem with e-bikes, what are you going to do about it because talking will not stop the tide.  If you feel strong about engage with the organisers of races and for them it will be a number games, if enough pedal rider vs e-bike riders complain they might exclude e-bikes.  Else it is just something you will need to get use too.  

Paddaman

Nov 8, 2018, 2:07 PM

We can go around and around, but if you look at the forecast, there will be more and more of these bikes on the trails in future.  More of the races will include an e-bike category.  This will not change, who knows in a few years they might even have the ebikes road start in front of the tandem group.

 

So if you have a problem with e-bikes, what are you going to do about it because talking will not stop the tide.  If you feel strong about engage with the organisers of races and for them it will be a number games, if enough pedal rider vs e-bike riders complain they might exclude e-bikes.  Else it is just something you will need to get use too.  

I have heared some pro's put out the same argument about doping

BuffsVintageBikes

Nov 8, 2018, 3:07 PM

I had an encounter with an ebike rider on Chappies just before the CT Cycle Tour this year. I was out training and riding the route in the opposite direction, climbing Chappies from HB side when an elderly gent around 70yrs old plus came cruising past me.

I wasn't climbing too slowly at the time (well I didn't think so) and it took me a while to realize he was an ebike (commuter type jobbie) and during this lag time he pulled quite a gap on me.

 

My brain processed this and then I thought "stuff you old man" and started climbing tempo to catch him. Well it took me some time but I eventually pulled him back but by the time I got to him my HR was so high I could barely chat to him and ask him about his bike.

 

Anyway, about 2mins later, with us still climbing at a decent lick his elderly wife came cruising past both of us and he shouted "oh here you are love, I've been waiting for you"... then a quick "thanks for the chat" and off they went into the distance, leaving my ego absolutely shattered :wacko:

ChrisF

Nov 8, 2018, 3:10 PM

We can go around and around, but if you look at the forecast, there will be more and more of these bikes on the trails in future.  More of the races will include an e-bike category.  This will not change, who knows in a few years they might even have the ebikes road start in front of the tandem group.

 

So if you have a problem with e-bikes, what are you going to do about it because talking will not stop the tide.  If you feel strong about engage with the organisers of races and for them it will be a number games, if enough pedal rider vs e-bike riders complain they might exclude e-bikes.  Else it is just something you will need to get use too.  

 

are you trying LOGIC ????

 

wrong crowd .....

Pure Savage

Nov 8, 2018, 5:12 PM

Going to need more than 50km/h to take my KOM’s [emoji51][emoji51][emoji51]

AeroTucker

Nov 8, 2018, 9:48 PM

Motocross-riders-in-a-mass-start-MX-2015

Never before seen image of an ebike start group :whistling:

Thor Buttox

Nov 9, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Thor Buttox

Nov 9, 2018, 2:36 AM

Going to need more than 50km/h to take my KOM’s [emoji51][emoji51][emoji51]

What about the downhill, downwind ones?
Andrew Steer

Nov 9, 2018, 6:33 AM

Rode the Cycle Lab test Ebikes at the 94.7 Mtb expo yesterday... they're coming folks, like it or not. They will definitely get more people out on the trails... 

 

And luckily we all ride for our own personal reasons, so what others do will fortunately not detract from the great pleasure we all already enjoy pedaling our bikes  :thumbup:

Headshot

Nov 9, 2018, 9:58 AM

We can go around and around, but if you look at the forecast, there will be more and more of these bikes on the trails in future.  More of the races will include an e-bike category.  This will not change, who knows in a few years they might even have the ebikes road start in front of the tandem group.

 

So if you have a problem with e-bikes, what are you going to do about it because talking will not stop the tide.  If you feel strong about engage with the organisers of races and for them it will be a number games, if enough pedal rider vs e-bike riders complain they might exclude e-bikes.  Else it is just something you will need to get use too.  

There is always sabotage !!!

Headshot

Nov 9, 2018, 10:02 AM

I had an encounter with an ebike rider on Chappies just before the CT Cycle Tour this year. I was out training and riding the route in the opposite direction, climbing Chappies from HB side when an elderly gent around 70yrs old plus came cruising past me.

I wasn't climbing too slowly at the time (well I didn't think so) and it took me a while to realize he was an ebike (commuter type jobbie) and during this lag time he pulled quite a gap on me.

 

My brain processed this and then I thought "stuff you old man" and started climbing tempo to catch him. Well it took me some time but I eventually pulled him back but by the time I got to him my HR was so high I could barely chat to him and ask him about his bike.

 

Anyway, about 2mins later, with us still climbing at a decent lick his elderly wife came cruising past both of us and he shouted "oh here you are love, I've been waiting for you"... then a quick "thanks for the chat" and off they went into the distance, leaving my ego absolutely shattered :wacko:

You see, this is what happens to us when these things are allowed out. Their owners pretend they are cyclists but in fact are very different. I like the analogy of a guy with a hang glider trying to outfly iron man. The only time you have a chance is when the battery goes flat.

LeoKnight

Nov 9, 2018, 10:47 AM

I have heared some pro's put out the same argument about doping

 

Should that not have been in comic sans, as it is not really the same is it?

LeoKnight

Nov 9, 2018, 10:49 AM

There is always sabotage !!!

 

Ahhh.. someone with a plan

Paddaman

Nov 9, 2018, 12:44 PM

Should that not have been in comic sans, as it is not really the same is it?

Depends.  It is external assistance in both cases.

Paddaman

Nov 9, 2018, 12:50 PM

Maybe it is time to start a new sport called e-biking.  In this instance, each competitor gets one battery cell.  Obviously the course must be much longer than the range on the power in the battery.  He must then plan his usage wisely.  Does he cycle economy mode and use the power at the end?  Does he recharge on the downhills? 

 

The viewership will be even more than the TdF especially on the last 100km of the first day, when all the batteries are finished......

LeoKnight

Nov 9, 2018, 2:25 PM

Depends. It is external assistance in both cases.

As is lots of other things that certain riders have that others don't. Could even argue it is an tool to equilize things between those that have spare time to exercise on their smart trainers at home with powermeters on a feather light bikes, etc

 

Of course all being said tongue in cheek.

Forthelove

Nov 10, 2018, 12:18 AM

The same persons who opposed 29 wheels to 26er are the nay sayers for Ebikes on this forum. It’s the next biking tidal wave and all the posts in the world will not stop this magical revolution.

Patchelicious

Nov 10, 2018, 4:15 AM

The same persons who opposed 29 wheels to 26er are the nay sayers for Ebikes on this forum. It’s the next biking tidal wave and all the posts in the world will not stop this magical revolution.

For the love of god! Nobody is against eBikes!!!!!

 

The problem in this thread is not eBikes, it the people who are either too lazy to think, too stupid to understand, being obtuse or they are trolling.

Paddaman

Nov 10, 2018, 4:59 AM

For the love of god! Nobody is against eBikes!!!!!

 

The problem in this thread is not eBikes, it the people who are either too lazy to think  pedal, too stupid to understand, being obtuse or they are trolling.

fixed

bambooozle

Nov 12, 2018, 8:17 AM

So to all the purest out there i say get off your multi-speed bikes and ride a single speed in its purest cycling form before you complain and be Hippocrates, you are cheating as much as me on my e-bike, yes i did my once a week Saturday or Sunday ride killed me couldn't keep up with my mates and didn't like cycling, e-biking has changed that for me i cycle every day at least 30km on trails i would never even think of doing and enjoying life, getting fit and exploring out beautiful city. to the hatters out there consider the facts that you might be a dying breed and that e-bikes are out selling conventional bikes 2 to 1 the tables might turn in the future and you might feel like the outcast. as long as im having fun getting fit and can ride with my mates i will continue doing my e-bike thing, i weigh a 115kg and look forward to the purest making comment as they cycle past me remember im faster with my pedal assist and you should have a few good reasons why i shouldn't be on the trail at that point.... haha boys you are all to serious life is way to complicated to add a e-bike vs pedal power to the mix just chill greet each other and share what beauty we were given to explore.

Rigardt@Scott

Nov 12, 2018, 9:06 AM

The cycle (everybody hates e-bikes > no one hates it > they are cool > just be considerate of other riders > don't race them > etc) has now decreased from 3 or 4 pages to half a page. Is anyone even reading a bit of this thread before posting their opinion (which probably has been voiced several times already)?

Patchelicious

Nov 12, 2018, 9:34 AM

So to all the purest out there i say get off your multi-speed bikes and ride a single speed in its purest cycling form before you complain and be Hippocrates, you are cheating as much as me on my e-bike, yes i did my once a week Saturday or Sunday ride killed me couldn't keep up with my mates and didn't like cycling, e-biking has changed that for me i cycle every day at least 30km on trails i would never even think of doing and enjoying life, getting fit and exploring out beautiful city. to the hatters out there consider the facts that you might be a dying breed and that e-bikes are out selling conventional bikes 2 to 1 the tables might turn in the future and you might feel like the outcast. as long as im having fun getting fit and can ride with my mates i will continue doing my e-bike thing, i weigh a 115kg and look forward to the purest making comment as they cycle past me remember im faster with my pedal assist and you should have a few good reasons why i shouldn't be on the trail at that point.... haha boys you are all to serious life is way to complicated to add a e-bike vs pedal power to the mix just chill greet each other and share what beauty we were given to explore.

Oh cute, another big “I’m 115kg” guy using his size to threaten people.

Headshot

Nov 12, 2018, 10:20 AM

The same persons who opposed 29 wheels to 26er are the naysayers for Ebikes on this forum. It’s the next biking tidal wave and all the posts in the world will not stop this magical revolution.

 I love motorbikes and also, especially, going faster than 29ers.

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