Adverse analytical finding in recent mountain bike stage race

But, but, then they would've targetted the celeb rugger players too, no?

No they are celebs !

No they are celebs !

Sorry, should have used the sarcasm font...

I would imagine so.

I know someone who also tested positive riding for SA overseas and innocently took some supplements which by accident made this person test positive . Was told by Sylvia Dale not to do a thing- Next moment name is splashed all over the papers with no chance to prove innocence- Pathetic wankers (SAC)

But, but, then they would've targetted the celeb rugger players too, no?

No! no! That will not be random. that will be targeting them....

I know someone who also tested positive riding for SA overseas and innocently took some supplements which by accident made this person test positive . Was told by Sylvia Dale not to do a thing- Next moment name is splashed all over the papers with no chance to prove innocence- Pathetic wankers (SAC)

Sounds typical of our sport's admin.

Just spoke to a Mate of Barry, CSA have posted this "named" release without even notifying the athlete himself... He is dumbstruck. Surely the athlete must be notified first???

That does sound wrong - like the time I found out that jake white hadn't picked me for the world cup I read about it first in the sunday times.

[assumptions] This oke is a standard gym bunny who takes loads of supplements every day. Being tested at the epic would mean he must have known there was a good chance of coming up with a positive. [/assumptions]

for the record, bioplus is kosher.

http://www.drugfreesport.org.za/medication-check-4/?srch=bioplus

http://www.drugfreesport.org.za/wp-content/themes/dfs/images/filters/allow_icon.pngBioplus Effervescent Tablets http://www.drugfreesport.org.za/wp-content/themes/dfs/images/filters/allow_icon.pngBioplus Syrup

No way, damnit Barry, been telling you for years to get off the juice - what's wrong with you??

 

by the way who is Barry Warmback?

I TOLD him also not to have that second helping of steak!!!

By the way...who is Barry Warmbrak??

If he did not make podium...who cares??

kind of smacks of the Epic trying to PR how good they are at catching cheats, wonder if they are that concerned with catching the fast guys who make the racing what it is?

This may have been posted at some stage already but if you are unsure whether what you are taking is legal or not, just type it in the search block in this link (or you could download the full list of prohibited meds from the same page):

http://www.drugfreesport.org.za/medication-check-4/

This may have been posted at some stage already but if you are unsure whether what you are taking is legal or not, just type it in the search block in this link (or you could download the full list of prohibited meds from the same page):

 

http://www.drugfrees...cation-check-4/

Still only meds.

Will be a good tool if you can type in a supplement.

STANAZOL, PHEW WE ALL USE THAT, ITS LIKE BIOPLUS

Same drug that was found in the sheiks horses recently in Dubai.

Also what Ben Johnson used in the 1988 olympics

I feel for the guy, really whats the point of naming and shaming backmarkers - money wasted imo

I agree that it's maybe a waste of money to test the "backmarkers" but I do think it makes sense. It's not only the best riders who like to ride "competitively" or to challenge themselves. Do you think its fine for "backmarkers" to dope?

Say you're racing, in the G bunch, which is a "backmarker" I assume - would you think its fair if the people you are racing against are doping because they're not going for podium anyway...

Definitely think its not money well spent, as they are already short on funds, but it's pretty fair - and as someone who isn't going to podium i'm not complaining!

"Anabolic steroids, such as stanozolol, have no anti-inflammatory effect, and are used almost exclusively to promote weight and muscle gain. Most side-effects of stanozolol are related to its androgen-type effects (a male hormone)."

The next paragraph from Wikipedia was left off the quote on the prev page:

 

"Stanozolol is one of the anabolic steroids commonly used as a performance enhancing drug and is banned from use in sports competition under the auspices of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) and many other sporting bodies. Additionally, stanozolol has been used in US horse racing.^[1]"

 

Accidental ingestion seems unlikely. The nature of the conditions it is used to treat would indicate serious consideration by a doctor with understanding of exercise activities and thus the understanding of the need for a TUE. This ain't treatment for a cold.

Yep. I don't know why everyone is saying "bioplus".

Edit: Oh and yes, you should research(read: google) every medication(drug) your doctor gives you! Don't trust pharmaceuticals one little bit!!

Hi All,

Havent read the whole thread but there is a common sentiment of "why bother testing the mid to back fielders?"

Here are my thoughts: set the scene.

You train your butt off to complete epic in the top 600, making family and other sacrifices along the way. After 8 days of hard riding you are sitting in 700th place. you feel disappointed, but somehow justify in your head that you need to train harder next year.

Later you discover that 200 people (placings 0-699) where found to have used PED's). So now you actuallly finished 500th, do you feel cheated or will you have the same view of "why bother testing the mid to back fielders?"

I certainly will, irrespective of whether I finish ahead of a doper or behind one, its cheating, and will feel cheated.

I still maintain the largest dopers (users of PED's) are the vet and sub vets as they want to prove to their mates that they are still the racing snake from 20 years ago and can beat the group with zero training!

Its not about race results, but bragging rights who won the weekend race with your mates!

Well said

He could have used a steroid for medical reasons and not known.Why was he tested if he races mid pack?

It looks like it may not have been as innocent as i thought then.

Needs to face the music, but truly a waste of resources really, test those that have a full racing licence. That covers all the 'pros' and serious amateurs across the competitive categories.

The lack of consistent application of the rules and following protocol is a concern though, completely counter productive.

Cycling SA received notification from the UCI (International Cycling Union) of an adverse analytical finding from a sample provided by Barry Warmback on 18 March 2013 at the Absa Cape Epic.

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Looking at that brute I would say that he knew exactly what he was taking and he can truly say he did not inhale it.

Needs to face the music, but truly a waste of resources really, test those that have a full racing licence. That covers all the 'pros' and serious amateurs across the competitive categories.

 

The lack of consistent application of the rules and following protocol is a concern though, completely counter productive.

Hmm not so sure about it being a waste of time, anyone who cheats or attempts to cheat (dope) should be scared of being caught and by catching this guy it might just make others think twice (only if he gets skopped out for life - if guilty).

"Fun riders" i.e. those not racing for positions or reward will attempt to dope for a variety of reasons but the biggest one IMHO is to make sure they will be able to finish the event, and then also the few who feel they have to do everything they can to beat there "buddies".

According to this thread the guy is huge, maybe he was taking the stuff for body building purposes instead and never dreamed he would get tested

LOL Karma karma

I agree that it's maybe a waste of money to test the "backmarkers" but I do think it makes sense. It's not only the best riders who like to ride "competitively" or to challenge themselves. Do you think its fine for "backmarkers" to dope?

 

Yep. I don't know why everyone is saying "bioplus".

 

Edit: Oh and yes, you should research(read: google) every medication(drug) your doctor gives you! Don't trust pharmaceuticals one little bit!!

Like a typical hubber I judged before I knew any facts - didn't know the guy was built like a bouncer and on steroids you wouldn't find in your average cough syrup. Knowing that now somewhat diminished my sympathy.

I hear what you guys are saying and no, I don't think its right for backmarkers to dope, and I'm sure there is the odd chop who does. But I just can't imagine that backmarkers doping for bragging rights it's a widespread problem - if it is, then humanity is in deeper crap than I thought....

In the context of limited resources, spending R1000's to catch backmarkers doping while the okes actually racing for prize money & fame are getting away with doping, is not money well spent imo.

 

 

Like a typical hubber I judged before I knew any facts - didn't know the guy was built like a bouncer and on steroids you wouldn't find in your average cough syrup. Knowing that now somewhat diminished my sympathy.

 

I hear what you guys are saying and no, I don't think its right for backmarkers to dope, and I'm sure there is the odd chop who does. But I just can't imagine that backmarkers doping for bragging rights it's a widespread problem - if it is, then humanity is in deeper crap than I thought....

 

In the context of limited resources, spending R1000's to catch backmarkers doping while the okes actually racing for prize money & fame are getting away with doping, is not money well spent imo.

I said in jest(for a laugh since clearly there should be a IQ requirement for hubbing)

Ah please we all use it it's like BIOPLUS

CLEARLY TOO MANY PEOPLE are WAAAAY TO SERIOUS AND DO NOT READ POSTS CLEARLY, THE WHOLE DAY I BEEN WATCHING EVERYONE COMMENT ABOUT BIOPLUS,,,,, SERIOUSLY.???? I was joking

Hahaha dipslick. I see I see

Hahaha dipslick. I see I see

I said it like first thing in the morning now everyone is buying BIOPLUS,,,

Seriously are people that gullible thinking there is Schedule 5 testosterone in over the counter BIOPLUS