Adverse Analytical Finding – in-competition test

Would love to know.

What will they do? Fire you?

Oh, wait they cannot ... you don't work for them.

Arrest you cause you didn't want to pee? No hang on they need a warrant for that.

OR IF I GIVE THEM A SAMPLE THEY WILL HAVE TO REMOVE IT FROM EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THE CONTAINER

ok so you enter you pay your fee, so you have agreed to "obey" the stoopid rules(cough mixture,wada wada) im not talking juice im talking ABOUT stuff we wouldnt even know is illegal, they come to you joe soap number

 

3340 out of 3390 riders they ask you to pee, YOU TELL THEM TO PEE OFF WHAT THEN????

 

i know you have agreed to the rules, but you say pee off?? whats the procedure

 

cause if i get told to pee and i know i dont use PEDS they better have a beeeg boere tannie as a nurse, cause the wont get shiiit from me

They they'll probably ban you, to try and send out a "message" to us other funriders to tow the line.... Please say no to the dik tannie...

ok so you enter you pay your fee, so you have agreed to "obey" the stoopid rules(cough mixture,wada wada) im not talking juice im talking ABOUT stuff we wouldnt even know is illegal, they come to you joe soap number

 

3340 out of 3390 riders they ask you to pee, YOU TELL THEM TO PEE OFF WHAT THEN????

 

i know you have agreed to the rules, but you say pee off?? whats the procedure

 

cause if i get told to pee and i know i dont use PEDS they better have a beeeg boere tannie as a nurse, cause the wont get shiiit from me

Ignorance is no excuse, maybe you should care cause it might just be the death of you (worst case scenario and heaven forbid)

Why? what you scared of??

ILL REPEAT WHAT WAS said before why blow R5K on joe soap, clean up the sport from the pros, those who do this for a salary

Would love to know.

What will they do? Fire you?

Oh, wait they cannot ... you don't work for them.

Arrest you cause you didn't want to pee? No hang on they need a warrant for that.

Laugh at his small tottie.

Some okes get given a tea cup, others a 2 litre bottle.

Laugh at his small tottie.

Some okes get given a tea cup, others a 2 litre bottle.

So after all was said and done.

We are back at square 1 = measuring dicks

I'm kaking my pants here as i have SA XCo champs this weekend not because I'm willing & knowingly taking something illegal, but its possible that something illegal pops up in a test & then i get crucified by the hub. now i'm sure everyone is going to harp on about "it's your responsibility to check what you take" but lets be honest, how many of us really do & no i'm not a pro or elite either, just another average vet. I'm banking on Dischems good faith that all their supplements are not on the banned list.

They seem to be targeting mid to back of pack riders, so yes in your case I would be worried about being tested.

ILL REPEAT WHAT WAS said before why blow R5K on joe soap, clean up the sport from the pros, those who do this for a salary

Ok so lets forget the health and ethical reasons, what happens if you riding an event / race and some plonker oke takes a short cut to finish in position 666 instead of 999..... and the organizers find out...WHAT SHOULD THEY DO?

1. Ignore it because he is a plonking fun rider?

2. Ban him from future events and delete his result?

3. Or?

ILL REPEAT WHAT WAS said before why blow R5K on joe soap, clean up the sport from the pros, those who do this for a salary

Makes you wonder what happens to all the money. Marianne Vos won €525 for winning the overall and 4x €269 for stage wins at Giro Rosa.

Ignorance is no excuse, maybe you should care cause it might just be the death of you (worst case scenario and heaven forbid)

 

Why? what you scared of??

me nothing!!!!, ag please im on a good day a weekend warrior, im talking about the simple meds on the list that could easily be ingested due to ,,,,colds,flue, stomach problems

ignorance does not make you exempt from the law, THIS I KNOW I WAS TOLD IT IN COURT,

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT IGNORANCE im talking about i dont read my sleeping pills, blood pressure pills(yes im that old) so even if there was something illegal i wouldnt know, and to be honest i couldnt care, if my dr gives it to me ill take it he studied for years ill take it, i wont second guess over the counter muti or perscription pills cause i want to play on the weekend

It's a formal process, but surprise tests are normal and not always in conjunction with the where abouts program.

Part of the where abouts program is for riders to check in wherever, knowing that they're subject to a visit at anytime by testers.

So, if you're supposed to be at Harry's Sex Shop for two days and the testers arrive but you're in the next province. Problems.

 

Unfortunately this isn't in place a helluva lot, it comes back to money once again.

We're pissing in the wind. Nothing more than a PR stunt frankly imho

Ok so lets forget the health and ethical reasons, what happens if you riding an event / race and some plonker oke takes a short cut to finish in position 666 instead of 999..... and the organizers find out...WHAT SHOULD THEY DO?

1. Ignore it because he is a plonking fun rider?NO

2. Ban him from future events and delete his result?DELETE HIS RESULT

3. Or?

swiss, i just think its like the police going after someone who litters rather than crack addicts,suppliers

AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT STERIODS, EPO,GROWTH HORMONE,

IM TALKING ABOUT STUFF MR AVERAGE COULD TAKE WITHOUT KNOWING ITS ON THE BANNED LIST

can some clever trevor post some examples please

swiss, i just think its like the police going after someone who litters rather than crack addicts,suppliers

 

AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT STERIODS, EPO,GROWTH HORMONE,

 

IM TALKING ABOUT STUFF MR AVERAGE COULD TAKE WITHOUT KNOWING ITS ON THE BANNED LIST

 

can some clever trevor post some examples please

me nothing!!!!, ag please im on a good day a weekend warrior, im talking about the simple meds on the list that could easily be ingested due to ,,,,colds,flue, stomach problems

 

ignorance does not make you exempt from the law, THIS I KNOW I WAS TOLD IT IN COURT,

 

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT IGNORANCE im talking about i dont read my sleeping pills, blood pressure pills(yes im that old) so even if there was something illegal i wouldnt know, and to be honest i couldnt care, if my dr gives it to me ill take it he studied for years ill take it, i wont second guess over the counter muti or perscription pills cause i want to play on the weekend

OK just dont call me Trevor... :-)

To qoute your particular medical situation, now just imagine you were taking these harmless weight lodd pills

Precautions

Phentermine should not be taken if:

* You have even mild hypertension (high blood pressure)

* You are insulin dependant

* You are taking any other stimulants

* You have a history of drug abuse

* You are normally a nervous or easily agitated person

http://www.theathlete.org/phentermine.htm

There's the thing... 300 tests over road and mtb (as per their 2013 reports) split amongst say 60 pro's, national championships, all the big races, out of competition testing, passports(!) - and now it seems testing back markers

We're pissing in the wind. Nothing more than a PR stunt frankly imho

Pretty much what I said, and a PR stunt with good odds.

IM TALKING ABOUT STUFF MR AVERAGE COULD TAKE WITHOUT KNOWING ITS ON THE BANNED LIST

 

 

Its really easy to find out if its banned, i'm doing an event next weekend and was on meds for shingles, tested the meds on the SAIDS web site...luckily they all came up with a big green tick....

dunno what i would have done if it was red :-()

Its really easy to find out if its banned, i'm doing an event next weekend and was on meds for shingles, tested the meds on the SAIDS web site...luckily they all came up with a big green tick....

 

 

dunno what i would have done if it was red :-()

now thats 100% my point, my dad had shingles dam nasty stuff, if the dr said take this in the morning and in 2 weeks you will be fine,,,,,ill take what ever,,,,THATS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT the last thing on my mind is my next fun "race" and what if i have to fill a cup

now thats 100% my point, my dad had shingles dam nasty stuff, if the dr said take this in the morning and in 2 weeks you will be fine,,,,,ill take what ever,,,,THATS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT the last thing on my mind is my next fun "race" and what if i have to fill a cup

Stop stressing....nothing bad will happen I promise

Cock up is YOU as individual handle that cup from start to finish....even when you have to devide it into "A" and "B" sample bottles, YOU do it....not the guy that tests....he just watch.....

I peed in the bath plenty as a lightie, a little on my hands isnt gonna kill me.

Hell, I may even wipe my hands on his coat when Im done

Maybe they should increase the cost of licensing for all riders so that there is more money available for more frequent dope testing across a bigger pool of riders.

Can I add my 5 cents worth too..... I totally agree with dope testing at Pro level, no matter what substance and I agree with the minimum 2 year ban. A pro cyclist or any sports man for that matter, is representing a sponsor that is paying their salary and expecting positive publicity, a cheating pro cyclist is thus earning big money to do a job! Now here is where my issue starts, I do feel that Vets should be tested but I feel that certain "banned substances" should be looked at under that specific circumstance. This Vet has been bust using a diet "drug" that you get in most off the shelf diet products, so we have a 40 something guy thats making a effort to look after his body, spend money to look and feel better, and not blow it on Klippies and Kola, this VET most likely has no sponsor, pays his own way and has a good career and really does this for fun, and now The Vampires spend thousands to test and bust and ban him......WTF. I am a Vet, been racing almost 30 years and I am on a banned pain killer for a 3 level spinal fusion I had recently, I have never bothered declaring it to the cycling authorities because it has nothing to do with them ( I do however have a Dr script and letter) and honestly, this **** knocks me out cold so I dont really see how I am going to win the next Vets tour on it. My point is, there are lots of folks out there knowingly using so called "banned" drugs to improve their lives, this does not make them cheats, dope heads or anything bad in my eyes.....

now thats 100% my point, my dad had shingles dam nasty stuff, if the dr said take this in the morning and in 2 weeks you will be fine,,,,,ill take what ever,,,,THATS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT the last thing on my mind is my next fun "race" and what if i have to fill a cup

Yeah i understand, but funny enough the following went through my mind based on previous "discussions" about testing funriders

I can see the hub headline in a few weeks time

Adverse Analytical Finding - in-competition test

Swisshypocritvan tests postive in Zurich

My take is that I will just carry on as I do now, if I get tested and they find 'something' and I get banned well then I will carry on riding in the veld and suburbs ... not 'racing' may have affected me in years gone by but not anymore.

And no I am not now suddenly going to to check everything I ingest on some phone app

Have we determined who Hendrik is yet ?

I looked on the TDF list and then moved on to The Epic podiums list and from there to the national marathons and series, also on CTP results I don't see him near the top step.

So who is this Frankenstein and why was he tested ?

I'm no Horatio, but looking at the man receiving an award in front of an Anderson Transport trailer, I might be inclined to deduce that he is one of the family or owners of the company, or not...

Cue, "Who are you??"

Can I add my 5 cents worth too..... I totally agree with dope testing at Pro level, no matter what substance and I agree with the minimum 2 year ban. A pro cyclist or any sports man for that matter, is representing a sponsor that is paying their salary and expecting positive publicity, a cheating pro cyclist is thus earning big money to do a job! Now here is where my issue starts, I do feel that Vets should be tested but I feel that certain "banned substances" should be looked at under that specific circumstance. This Vet has been bust using a diet "drug" that you get in most off the shelf diet products, so we have a 40 something guy thats making a effort to look after his body, spend money to look and feel better, and not blow it on Klippies and Kola, this VET most likely has no sponsor, pays his own way and has a good career and really does this for fun, and now The Vampires spend thousands to test and bust and ban him......WTF. I am a Vet, been racing almost 30 years and I am on a banned pain killer for a 3 level spinal fusion I had recently, I have never bothered declaring it to the cycling authorities because it has nothing to do with them ( I do however have a Dr script and letter) and honestly, this **** knocks me out cold so I dont really see how I am going to win the next Vets tour on it. My point is, there are lots of folks out there knowingly using so called "banned" drugs to improve their lives, this does not make them cheats, dope heads or anything bad in my eyes.....

thats what i tried to say, he just said it betterer :blush:

Maybe they should increase the cost of licensing for all riders so that there is more money available for more frequent dope testing across a bigger pool of riders.

There goes your nomination for moderator.... down the urinal literaly