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Tokai and Silvermine to remain closed to the public

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In the interest of public safety, as well as for the protection of the environmental integrity of the Silvermine and Tokai sections of Table Mountain National Park (TMNP), park management decided that these two areas will remain closed to the public until further notice.

TMNP management understands that users are eager to access these areas, however they remain very sensitive and unsafe, and public use of these areas are off limits due to:

  • Smouldering and burning vegetation still needs to be extinguished and flare ups will occur as stumps and roots burn.
  • Standing trees that have been burnt or damaged by the fire are extremely dangerous as they continue to come down in the area.
  • Recently burnt veld (as well as adjacent areas) is hazardous as the fire will have burnt roots underground and foot falls may cause serious injuries.
  • Unstable slopes may result in rock falls
  • Winds and rain may exacerbate the danger with respect to falling trees, branches, rock falls and mudslides
  • Hazardous clear-felling operations of the burnt plantation trees are underway by Cape Pine
  • Disturbance to surviving animals
  • Burnt areas are sensitive as windblown seeds can be damaged and the first emerging plants can be killed by accidental trampling
  • Disturbance to sensitive erodible soils

The closure of the burnt areas will be continually assessed and reopening will only be considered once all safety and environmental issues have been addressed. For some areas this may take between six to twenty four months.

TMNP management and staff would like to assure the public that their focus is to secure the areas for the public’s safety and to as quickly as possible rehabilitate the affected sites for future use.

Please assist us by being patient and please remain out of all burnt areas while mother nature heals herself.

Comments

dirtypot

Apr 1, 2015, 7:34 AM

Wait wait wait,

 

I am very much for signage, but basic signage so that it does not interfere with the feng shui 

 

but to have something like 4f10c8746973c006b8894873646775f6.jpg is not cool at all

 

Reminds me of the traffic lights that I used to encounter in Canary Wharf in London:

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tubed

Apr 1, 2015, 7:36 AM

Just trying to constructively add to the debate, I really appreciate the behind the scenes work you guys do.

 

I clearly remember when wearing helmets was uncool, driving on beaches was cool and nobody said anything if you cruised through a red light on a bike. Kind of a bit different now. People change slowly over time, as does behaviour with education.

 

Make no mistake many many cyclists embarrass me no end with their behaviour, as do dog walkers, as do drivers. If we want more places to ride we are going to have to self enforce to some extent. 

 

As an example only an idiot would now ride at Bloemendal without a board, those cameras and your pic on facebook is a pretty strong deterrent. But idiots are among us.

 

(PS: I heard the expression the other day: "ek poep nie vir punte nie", which I think applies here. Just trying to add to the debate and not just moan, sorry if you see it another way)

 

 

(Deon)

Apr 1, 2015, 8:08 AM

Just trying to constructively add to the debate, I really appreciate the behind the scenes work you guys do.

 

I clearly remember when wearing helmets was uncool, driving on beaches was cool and nobody said anything if you cruised through a red light on a bike. Kind of a bit different now. People change slowly over time, as does behaviour with education.

 

Make no mistake many many cyclists embarrass me no end with their behaviour, as do dog walkers, as do drivers. If we want more places to ride we are going to have to self enforce to some extent. 

 

As an example only an idiot would now ride at Bloemendal without a board, those cameras and your pic on facebook is a pretty strong deterrent. But idiots are among us.

 

(PS: I heard the expression the other day: "ek poep nie vir punte nie", which I think applies here. Just trying to add to the debate and not just moan, sorry if you see it another way)

Apologies are not really needed, what I see is just fact. The plan is spot on, execution is the sticking point. As you said, it's a debate but unfortunately there ain't no shying away from the ugly stuff. 

 

You really do have my support, as well as everyone else who wants the same. Just the fact that you replied with a reasonable response shows you are not afraid to head into a part of the topic that most would rather block out or ignore.

 

On the one side there are guys that are willing to look at our situation holistically and others who look only for issues and use it as fuel in whatever suits an argument. You are showing that you can handle the red pill, something that those focussed on the solution greatly appreciate!

 

TBH, if it was not for your posts, I would not have seen the point of giving you my honest reply. It is hugely frustrating. Just one look at what is happening in the North now shows that signs and years of effort means nothing to some. 

kellyslater

Apr 1, 2015, 8:10 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

dirtypot

Apr 1, 2015, 8:19 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

 

And risk facing a R2500 fine?

That's an XT brake set right there.

It also doesn't help the cause for those of us who are trying to play along and not be seen as a nuisance to the people calling the shots.  Everybody wants to ride, but don't be selfish about it.

(Deon)

Apr 1, 2015, 8:22 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

No, they are offering your money back to ride elsewhere if you don't want to remain in the areas designated for riding. No one has asked you to stop riding your bike. As the Dirtypot says, what you choose to do in your desperation has an impact on others.

 

What's next, legalise copper theft because money is tight?

DJR

Apr 1, 2015, 8:32 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

Personally I will have ZERO sympathy for you and will encourage SANParks to throw the whole book at you if you get caught.

 

This means a R2500 fine. If you give them lip, they can confiscate your bike, like they can a car used to smuggle perlemoen (the law says they may do that if it is used in committing a crime. You will be trespassing, which is a crime.)

 

My reason for reacting so strongly is simple:

 

If you willfully ride there when it is forbidden, you will be putting the TOTAL closure of Tokai, for everyone, for ever, on the cards. If you want to endanger the whole future of Tokai, for all mountainbikers, you should expect strong reaction to a supremely selfish act. 

(Deon)

Apr 1, 2015, 8:40 AM

It is the 1st of April, so there's that too. ;)

 

But DJR is right. What does Table Mountain National Park really need to give us if we behave like idiots on the mountain.. more?

 

The same sentiment was expressed around all of Tokai's illegal tracks. Guess none saw the area being closed as a reality.. now the reps are being told to go and demand access sooner. Your hand was shown then, be ready for distrust now. Simple. 

(Deon)

Apr 1, 2015, 8:42 AM

I posted the new dates for the Park Planning info session here.

 

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/148925-2015-tmnp-park-planning-info-session/

popcorn_skollie

Apr 1, 2015, 8:42 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

 

This is what worries me. I've already overheard guys talking about riding Tokai anyways.

And, at the same time challenging SANparks ability to enforce the proposed penalties if caught doing so. All I can think is. Seriously, why do you have to risk ******* it up for the rest of us?

 

Table Mountain being overcrowded as of late just compounds the issue.

The more I hear about it. The more I think theres an accident waiting to happen there.

 

Tygerberg has seen alot more traffic because of the Tokai's closure too. While the northern trails may be welcoming to new members. They won't be so welcoming to the rogue riders. (I have already heard about incidents)

 

Tokai's closure has resulted in a domino effect of trouble across the peninsular. 

I'm not sure that an 18 month blanket closure is the right solution

(Deon)

Apr 1, 2015, 8:45 AM

This is what worries me. I've already overheard guys talking about riding Tokai anyways.

And, at the same time challenging SANparks ability to enforce the proposed penalties if caught doing so. All I can think is. Seriously, why do you have to risk ******* it up for the rest of us?

 

Table Mountain being overcrowded as of late just compounds the issue.

The more I hear about it. The more I think theres an accident waiting to happen there.

 

Tygerberg has seen alot more traffic because of the Tokai's closure too. While the northern trails may be welcoming to new members. They won't be so welcoming to the rogue riders. (I have already heard about incidents)

 

Tokai's closure has resulted in a domino effect of trouble across the peninsular. 

I'm not sure that an 18 month blanket closure is the right solution

Nor do I. Assuming we could manage ourselves I would say it was the worst decision ever.

marko35s

Apr 1, 2015, 9:01 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

Let me simplify this for you...

Its self centered idiots that 'think' like this that will end up not just re-entry into Tokai difficult but plans for improved trails in the future far more difficult to implement.

Eddy Gordo

Apr 1, 2015, 9:03 AM

I like the fact that Tygerberg is so strict. I so wish that all these rogue riders get caught and banned from races!!

 

We all miss tokai, but its now a matter of patience. What if it was your house that burned down?

 

You will have to put in an insurance claim

You will have to wait for it to be processed

You will have to wait on builders to decide when they want to come and work

o, and lets not forget about the lengthy process of getting your building plans passed

 

There is no quick way, only a corrupt way and in the end there will be nothing cause of selfishness.

Headshot

Apr 1, 2015, 9:09 AM

Tubed.

 

You pay a lot of attention to signage and prosecution. You would almost be saying the the mtb'er can't be trusted and for those who still don't respond to penalty, should face a sentence tougher than law.

 

Then you go on to say that you only want to share wide jeep track where we can build on relationships with all users. You, in the space of one paragraph, now trust the mtb'er to grant you your wish? Maybe today you will get 100 likes and 50 shares. wishlists generate a lot of enthusiasm..

 

From placing a sign at every entry, exit, intersection, and with several reminders along the way warning of penalty for not obeying the rules in existence since 2002 - to the warm and fuzzies by accepting second best with the hope of building relationships by the same group for which every sign is intended, is quite a leap of faith that after a year your signs are still respected and that new trails have not popped up along the way.

 

The reality is that this is all currently underway but at every point and turn in the road, there is always someone who cannot apply even the slightest bit of restraint when trying to "convert" the other users - like swearing at a 72 year old lady and showing her the finger in your branded cycling kit. (I met her btw). Or screaming inches passed a group of walkers with children (I met them too). Or building illegally because your 'only sharing' status sets a precedent for another lengthy timeframe before money is raised and an opportunity is available to us again. (How long should be be prepared to share?)

 

You could be forgiven for think everyone will respect your campaign in a year because today, on paper, it looks fantastic and for that I will like your two posts above.

 

OR, are you saying that every mtb'er should now try a new shift in thinking and respect the wishes of those working to make reality what you propose? Let's hope you have better luck or maybe the circumstance is now prime with all the closures for each to finally "give it a go". You have my support!

 

Personally I will have ZERO sympathy for you and will encourage SANParks to throw the whole book at you if you get caught.

 

This means a R2500 fine. If you give them lip, they can confiscate your bike, like they can a car used to smuggle perlemoen (the law says they may do that if it is used in committing a crime. You will be trespassing, which is a crime.)

 

My reason for reacting so strongly is simple:

 

If you willfully ride there when it is forbidden, you will be putting the TOTAL closure of Tokai, for everyone, for ever, on the cards. If you want to endanger the whole future of Tokai, for all mountainbikers, you should expect strong reaction to a supremely selfish act. 

They will never ever get away with a total ban on cycling. They probably do like the idea though because they hate having to manage bikes and other activities and the user issues and so on. 

 

They have used the fire as a reason to close vast swathes of the moungtain off for an extremely long period. If they had a more community based approach, they would have been more forthcoming. How much ill will have they generated towards them by the long closure? If Cape Point had been burned as badly do you think, as their main money spinner it would be closed? Not likely - busses of tourists would still be hitting the place anyway. Thats a R90 bar per annum cash cow. Sadly, a few mountain bikers local or otherwise, dont count for as much revenue so far more easy to exclude..

 

I dont condone breaking rules for no reason, but when rules are imposed that seem to be unfair it is human nature to feel aggrieved and people react.   

 

Look at Cape Nature and Jonkers - partially opened. Trail builders have been in to check and close off dangerous trails and the place will possibly fully open again in six months. Thats what i'd like to be seeing and hearing from the TMNP side.

Eddy Gordo

Apr 1, 2015, 9:21 AM

From the pics that I have seen, tokai has been burned to almost nothing whereas Jonkers burn was not as severe.

 

Its understandable as to why Jonkers has opened certain areas, unfortunately Tokai dont have that privelage.

 

 

People break rules every single day, jumping stop streets speeding etc, maybe everyone who feels aggrieved should put their concerns in a nice way in writing and take it up with the mayor

tubed

Apr 1, 2015, 9:25 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

reminds me of some of the guys I used to surf with, all trying to grow up now, but the real world is a hard place, cant just burn people cause you want to, it catches up with you

Headshot

Apr 1, 2015, 9:30 AM

From the pics that I have seen, tokai has been burned to almost nothing whereas Jonkers burn was not as severe.

 

Its understandable as to why Jonkers has opened certain areas, unfortunately Tokai dont have that privelage.

 

 

People break rules every single day, jumping stop streets speeding etc, maybe everyone who feels aggrieved should put their concerns in a nice way in writing and take it up with the mayor

You may be right on the scale of the burn, but large numbers of still green pines remain at both places and the fynbos/veldt looks the same in the pics I have seen ie burned to the ground.

 

Jonkers is bigger and the structure of the slopes may well be a bit different, so I am prepared to be convinced that there are differences, other than the management style of those who control the places.

 

The fact is TMNP does not appear to have considered the reaction to the closure and the inevitable pressure on other venues in the Park. I am sure there are more hikers visiting other areas because of Silvermines closure too.

 

I wonder what they will do about it - other than suggest that we bother the City and ride in green belts.

 

Oh, and I am not suggesting for a minute that people should challenge the ban by breaking it and riding there. The pen may well be mightier than the sword. Last time I looked the Cape Times still had a letters page...

Slowbee

Apr 1, 2015, 9:54 AM

I drove the car over ou kaaps to see if I could see things flowering.

 

Lots of cars parked at designated places and people walking into the burnt areas.

 

I could see many of the "old tracks".

 

Sadly people like kellyslater, will not contain themselves. Now that the vegetation is gone they will carve themselves new lines riding on sand and areas that should not be ridden on. I see this attitude as one that will ultimately see TMNP being closed officially to mountain bikers for a long time to come. There are just way to many rotten apples that will ruin the hard work so many good apples do.

Slowbee

Apr 1, 2015, 9:56 AM

 

The fact is TMNP does not appear to have considered the reaction to the closure and the inevitable pressure on other venues in the Park. I am sure there are more hikers visiting other areas because of Silvermines closure too.

 

On Sunday there were alot of cars parked at the silvermine entrance (but the boom was down) and it was clear people had walked into the park.

Nimby

Apr 1, 2015, 9:59 AM

I am going to simplify this for you guys....

I am not going to stop riding my mountain bike because they have closed Tokai.

Either they make a plan and allow access to the next best option i.e Greenbelts and Constantia Nek or we will ride there anyway.

Do they think all the mountain bikers in the southern suburbs are just going to stop riding for 6 - 18 months until tokai is opened ? lol

Desperate times = desperate measures.

And this is why the vast majority of non-cyclists regard all cyclists as selfish, arrogant and inconsiderate...

(Deon)

Apr 1, 2015, 10:11 AM

We continue to look at the closure from one side, specifically how we are displaced and inconvenienced for it.

 

I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it but there are just quick thoughts about what we all want, but how to get it based on our history.

  • What could anyone offer as reassurance to Table Mountain National Park that riders/walkers/horse riders will remain in designated areas and on designated trails?
  • How long could you guarantee it?
  • What happens when your word cannot be kept by, let's say 5 people who continue to evade rangers?
  • Does Table Mountain National Park now have to redirect their efforts to controlling 3 usergroups?
  • What do you think the feeling would be at the table when the committee meets to discuss more trails? 

Just questions. They don't need answering but at the least consider our past.

DJR

Apr 1, 2015, 10:16 AM

They will never ever get away with a total ban on cycling. ................

I hope that you are right on this one.

 

What worries me is that SANParks will now, for the first time, get a taste of what it feels like to have the mountain closed to cyclists. We all imagine that they will bleed from the lost revenue and come to their senses and let us back on the mountain ASAP. Well, think about the possibility that SANParks may just come to the conclusion that they like the mountain free of troublesome cyclists. I can easily imagine them finding it much more convenient. All it takes is for a senior manager to justify a permanent ban on environmental or biodiversity grounds. Few arguments will stand against that.

 

That is why working together and having respect for each other, is the only long term solution. 

Bloukrans

Apr 1, 2015, 10:22 AM

I hope that you are right on this one.

 

What worries me is that SANParks will now, for the first time, get a taste of what it feels like to have the mountain closed to cyclists. We all imagine that they will bleed from the lost revenue and come to their senses and let us back on the mountain ASAP. Well, think about the possibility that SANParks may just come to the conclusion that they like the mountain free of troublesome cyclists. I can easily imagine them finding it much more convenient. All it takes is for a senior manager to justify a permanent ban on environmental or biodiversity grounds. Few arguments will stand against that.

 

That is why working together and having respect for each other, is the only long term solution. 

This is a sound line of reasoning. Hope SANPARKS is not on The Hub :ph34r:

 

Nou worry ek!!!

dirtypot

Apr 1, 2015, 10:25 AM

I hope that you are right on this one.

 

What worries me is that SANParks will now, for the first time, get a taste of what it feels like to have the mountain closed to cyclists. We all imagine that they will bleed from the lost revenue and come to their senses and let us back on the mountain ASAP. Well, think about the possibility that SANParks may just come to the conclusion that they like the mountain free of troublesome cyclists. I can easily imagine them finding it much more convenient. All it takes is for a senior manager to justify a permanent ban on environmental or biodiversity grounds. Few arguments will stand against that.

 

That is why working together and having respect for each other, is the only long term solution. 

 

This April fool is too close to reality  :ph34r:

Shebeen

Apr 1, 2015, 10:26 AM

 Last time I looked the Cape Times still had a letters page...

maybe try a different paper, last time someone tried to write a mtb column for them they pulled it

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