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Review: Titan Racing Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate

Words by Matt Eagar. Images by Iwan Kemp

By Bike Hub Features · 159 comments

Over nearly two decades in our market, Titan Racing has earned a reputation as a brand that delivers a lot of bike for your money. The Cypher dual suspension mountain bike is no exception and delivers value across the range that is tough to beat.

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The Cypher platform is available in two variants: 1) Cypher RS with 100mm front and rear travel and 2) Cypher with 120mm front and rear travel. Either option is available as a full carbon or aluminium frame. We tested the race-ready, range topping Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate.

The full carbon frame has all you’d want and expect: internal cable routing for a clean look, a threaded bottom bracket, a flip-chip for the geometry tinkerers and, yes, it has room for two bottles within the front triangle on all sizes except small.

image.jpegTwo bottles, full throttle! (Unless you’re petite)

Both Cypher variants share the same frame but make use of shocks with different stroke lengths to achieve the 120mm travel vs. 100mm travel. In designing the Cypher, the team at Titan opted for the well proven horst-link suspension layout.

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High-end componentry abounds: including XX1 Eagle AXS and, a DT Swiss XRC 1501 carbon wheelset

The Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate is drizzled in all high-end componentry, starting with SRAM XX1 Eagle AXS wireless shifting, top-spec Fox Factory suspension and the “bullet proof” DT Swiss XRC 1501 carbon wheelset.

On the bike

Let’s get this out the way first up: absent any podium ambitions, I don’t regard myself as the intended buyer of this racier Cypher sibling. Having become perhaps too dependent on dropper posts, navigating a rigid seatpost and a little less travel upfront (100mm vs. 120mm) was a somewhat daunting prospect.

After a few awkward encounters with the pointy end of the saddle, my brain and body remembered that we all once rode (and mostly survived) sans dropper post. And once those jitters settled and biases faded, the bike was a whole lot of fast and fun on my local Tokai trails. For my middle of the curve trail appetite, the 100mm rear travel on the Cypher RS went surprisingly far. In fact, I’d say I’d go so far as to say it’s probably enough for my typical riding and the majority of riders in South Africa.

The bike handled itself well on descents, thriving on smoother flowing trails where it urges you to push harder and throw the bike about just a little. On the mildly technical trails you might encounter in a stage race or marathon event it felt solid and composed. However, even with the seat post manually dropped, on steeper technical terrain I did feel the limits of the skinny front end in terms of rubber, travel, and that hint of flex in the fork. While the non-RS version exists with 120mm front and rear out the box, I can’t help but imagine this RS with a slightly burlier 120mm fork and a dropper post being the magic mix for any stage race middle-marker like myself who enjoys a trail or two most weekends.

As you might expect, the bike climbs well. At 11.25kg on our scales, it’s not the lightest in this class but it feels sufficiently light on the trail. The reasonably steep seat tube angle makes for a comfortable and efficient climbing position. Add in the dual position remote lockout and the ease of Eagle AXS it’s all very easy when it comes to controls. Even in open mode the bike feels smooth and efficient on climbs without being too active. And, when you need it, full lockout is just a click away.

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image.jpegDouble remote lockout beefs up an almost-pristine cockpit.

Dual remote lockout may not be to everyone’s taste in terms of form or function. I’m not a fan of the extra clutter it adds to what would be a pristine part-wireless cockpit, but I have to admit that it’s convenient when you’re in a pinch.

Overall the Cypher RS felt great. It’s fast, nippy and fun on tight single-tracks while surprisingly tolerant and stable in the more techy stuff. Out of the box the setup is just about perfect for many of the typical marathon stage races in South Africa. The beauty of the Cypher frame is that it’s a bit of a Swiss army knife. Whether you’re buying the Cypher or the Cypher RS, you’ve got some tune-ability in the flip chip and the option of running 120mm or 100mm with a few tweaks.

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image.jpegThere is a flip chip for the tinkerers, making the Cypher RS a versatile choice for South African marathon racers

While the SRAM vs. Shimano and Fox vs. Rockshox troops might nitpick some choices, the component spec of Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate really does not put a foot wrong for a race-oriented 100mm mountain bike. Couple all that with a five year multi-user warranty and an unbelievably good price tag, I’m left asking why anyone would consider a “big global brand” spending at least 40% more in the process?

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Full Specifications

  • Frame: Cypher Carbon Frameset Flip Chip / Internal Cable Routing / Boost 148mm With Thru Axle / BSA 73mm
  • Fork: Fox Factory 32 Float SC 100mm with 2 position remote
  • Shock: Fox Factory Float, 2 position REMOTE / SV EVOL / 190 x 37.5mm / 0.2SPACER / DCF / DRM / CMF
  • Wheels: DT Swiss Carbon XRC 1501 Spline
  • Tyres: Vittoria Barzo 29″ X 2.25, XC-Race 120tpi Nylon / 4c Graphene 2.0 Compound / Tan Sidewall
  • Brakes: SRAM Level Ultimate with 180mm rotors
  • Rear derailleur: SRAM XX1 EAGLE AXS
  • Shifter: SRAM XX1 EAGLE AXS
  • Crankset: SRAM Carbon Crankarm, SRAM XX1 EAGLE 32T (S – 170mm CRANKARM / M+L+XL – 175mm)
  • Bottom bracket: SRAM XX1 DUB BSA 73mm
  • Chain: SRAM XX1 Eagle Copper
  • Handlebar: TR Pro Carbon Flat 760mm
  • Stem: TR Pro Alloy Stem (S = 60mm / M/L = 80mm / Xl = 100mm)
  • Saddle: Prologo Dimension
  • Seatpost: TR Pro Carbon Seat Post 31.6mm
  • Weight: 11.25kg with sealant & cages, no pedals.

RRP: R130,000

Comments

babse

Feb 6, 2023, 8:08 AM

5 minutes ago, dave303e said:

honestly, I did a 160km ride the other day which came to within 5km of our farm and 36 was too short in terms of gearing. Think we had 1700m gain in 160km. 

It's so flat here you can watch the dog run away from home for 3 days...

that's still a fair bit of ascend regardless of the distance 

 

rolling up and around table mountain, i wouldnt even think of a 38T....or i just need to level up.

117

Feb 6, 2023, 8:24 AM

1 hour ago, Scott roy said:

well I like the idea of that too because I think I would get more life out of my cassettes since the wear is normally concentrated on the lower cogs and the largest two cogs typically go unused. I'm looking forward to seeing how the new bike goes with a 36 and maybe a 38 in the future though

A 38 will make you hurt. Its hard enough to use a 38 even on the flats

I have a 38t 104bcd (round) if you want to test it, and a stupid ass single track out back if you want to kill yourself on the ups for the test ride. 

Unless you're a racing snake like the pro's - then you'll be fine

And @TheoG - you should put a 34 or even a 32t on, come ride the masts again and you'll be pleasantly surprised as to how much tech stuff you can actually do - I'm convinced its over gearing that puts you off

TheoG

Feb 6, 2023, 8:31 AM

4 minutes ago, 117 said:

A 38 will make you hurt. Its hard enough to use a 38 even on the flats

I have a 38t 104bcd (round) if you want to test it, and a stupid ass single track out back if you want to kill yourself on the ups for the test ride. 

Unless you're a racing snake like the pro's - then you'll be fine

And @TheoG - you should put a 34 or even a 32t on, come ride the masts again and you'll be pleasantly surprised as to how much tech stuff you can actually do - I'm convinced its over gearing that puts you off

You might be right ... will give it a shot.

I did SBR on the past weekend (57km, 1200m for those of you that don't know), never felt out of my depth on a 36T, but that's tar road, climbing on the tech stuff, completely different animal 🤪.  Previous time I did it with a 38T, that was not fun at all.

dave303e

Feb 6, 2023, 8:35 AM

25 minutes ago, babse said:

that's still a fair bit of ascend regardless of the distance 

 

rolling up and around table mountain, i wouldnt even think of a 38T....or i just need to level up.

ya like I said it is flat here. I have a32,34 and 36 to rotate through. Just pick and choose depending on where I ride. But a 38 would be manageable for majority of my riding in and around gp and home.

DieselnDust

Feb 6, 2023, 8:40 AM

On 2/4/2023 at 4:32 PM, ajnkzn said:

If you go 6mm offset chainring it’ll probably work with a 38. 
 

Most modern MTB;s are limited to about a 36T chainring when using a 3mm offset chainring. A 0mm offset chianring will definitely allow for a 38T to fit maybe even a 40T but there will be a compromise on drivetrain component life if the 50/51/52t sprocket is used often. There may also be issues of chain dropping down the cassette if you have to back pedal for any reason.

PS:  A 36T oval is not a 38T even if its round. the gearing is quite a bit taller, A 36T oval is the same gearing as a 36round for 360degrees of the crank revolution.....

Mattman

Mar 10, 2023, 3:21 PM

On 2/4/2023 at 4:53 AM, Jacques Joubert WC said:

I have the Cypher Pro and was told by Titan it can go to 36. 38 apparantly wont fit. Suspect it will be the same for the Ultimate.

@Jacques Joubert WC did you progress with new chainrings on your Carbon Pro? Assuming 120mm i.e. not the RS?

I was about to pull the trigger on the Carbon Pro size XL and when asking the bike shop to put on a 36T for me instead of the standard 32T, I was told that their mechanic advised it can’t cater for anything larger than 34!? I find this hard to believe as that would be a serious limitation on the bike given how it is marketed. 
 

Anyone else with information on this please weigh in 🙏🏻

JacquesJ

Mar 10, 2023, 3:44 PM

23 minutes ago, Mattman said:

@Jacques Joubert WC did you progress with new chainrings on your Carbon Pro? Assuming 120mm i.e. not the RS?

I was about to pull the trigger on the Carbon Pro size XL and when asking the bike shop to put on a 36T for me instead of the standard 32T, I was told that their mechanic advised it can’t cater for anything larger than 34!? I find this hard to believe as that would be a serious limitation on the bike given how it is marketed. 
 

Anyone else with information on this please weigh in 🙏🏻

Well, I went 34 first, since my next races had some steep stuff (Tankwa Trek), plus the chain that came with the new bike would be too short for a 36.

The plan is to go 36 once I need to replace the groupset in a year or so, since I can then match the replacement chain to the 36...and still have a 34 for those steep rides. 

Its the 120mm, yes

Sorry I cant help more at this stage

OVERDRIVE

Mar 12, 2023, 11:20 PM

@Titan Racing Bikes surely can comment on this 

Titan Racing Bikes

Mar 13, 2023, 6:38 AM

On 3/10/2023 at 5:44 PM, Jacques Joubert WC said:

Well, I went 34 first, since my next races had some steep stuff (Tankwa Trek), plus the chain that came with the new bike would be too short for a 36.

The plan is to go 36 once I need to replace the groupset in a year or so, since I can then match the replacement chain to the 36...and still have a 34 for those steep rides. 

Its the 120mm, yes

Sorry I cant help more at this stage

38T is the maximum.

Cliff, our head of design weighing in: 

"But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti-squat, 36T is better."

Fred van Vlaanderen

Mar 13, 2023, 7:26 AM

51 minutes ago, Titan Racing Bikes said:

38T is the maximum.

Cliff, our head of design weighing in: 

"But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti-squat, 36T is better."

I'm no expert, but I think the chainring size shouldn't affect the anti-squat. It will affect the pedal-kickback though, which is a by-product, but I don't see how it will really make a difference.

Edit: Ignore me. Mr. Google gave some good reading and Cliff has a point. Adding a cool link for those interested.

https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/best-chainring-size-for-xc-racing/42442/46?page=3

dasilvarsa

Mar 13, 2023, 9:59 AM

In Order to Spend less Time on the Large Rings of the Cassette the Chain ring size should be 32 tooth or 34 tooth. Spending too much time on the large gear destroys the cassette.

Using Large Rings 36T 38T also Increases the Gap between gears which results in bad performance when accelerating through the gears.

The only advantage of large rings 36T 38T is faster top end.

Modern Mountain bikes are designed and shipped with 32 Tooth Front Rings.

Jewbacca

Mar 13, 2023, 10:41 AM

35 minutes ago, dasilvarsa said:

In Order to Spend less Time on the Large Rings of the Cassette the Chain ring size should be 32 tooth or 34 tooth. Spending too much time on the large gear destroys the cassette.

Using Large Rings 36T 38T also Increases the Gap between gears which results in bad performance when accelerating through the gears.

The only advantage of large rings 36T 38T is faster top end.

Modern Mountain bikes are designed and shipped with 32 Tooth Front Rings.

FYI, a larger chainring makes shifting through the gears smoother.

It keeps the ratios tighter.

let's take a 15 and a 17 jump with a 38 - 0.39 and 0.44 respectively with a gap of 0.5

15 and 17 with a 32 - 0.44 and 0.53, with a ratio gear jump of 0.9

It all depends on what you do with your bike. I'd argue that with bigger stock cassettes these days, most bikes are built around a 34 chainring.

But, either way, you're wrong regarding the gap between gears. 

Mattman

Mar 13, 2023, 1:32 PM

6 hours ago, Titan Racing Bikes said:

38T is the maximum.

Cliff, our head of design weighing in: 

"But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti-squat, 36T is better."

Thanks for confirming, that puts me at ease before I spend the ZARs on what will hopefully be a very worthwhile purchase. 

It also didn’t intuitively make sense, if I’m looking to run a 36, the Titan pro team are almost certainly running 38, and only catering for a 34 would limit performance. 

OVERDRIVE

Mar 14, 2023, 8:24 AM

21 hours ago, Jewbacca said:

FYI, a larger chainring makes shifting through the gears smoother.

It keeps the ratios tighter.

let's take a 15 and a 17 jump with a 38 - 0.39 and 0.44 respectively with a gap of 0.5

15 and 17 with a 32 - 0.44 and 0.53, with a ratio gear jump of 0.9

It all depends on what you do with your bike. I'd argue that with bigger stock cassettes these days, most bikes are built around a 34 chainring.

But, either way, you're wrong regarding the gap between gears. 

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dasilvarsa

Mar 14, 2023, 8:34 AM

21 hours ago, Jewbacca said:

FYI, a larger chainring makes shifting through the gears smoother.

It keeps the ratios tighter.

let's take a 15 and a 17 jump with a 38 - 0.39 and 0.44 respectively with a gap of 0.5

15 and 17 with a 32 - 0.44 and 0.53, with a ratio gear jump of 0.9

It all depends on what you do with your bike. I'd argue that with bigger stock cassettes these days, most bikes are built around a 34 chainring.

But, either way, you're wrong regarding the gap between gears. 

 

Dont'  buy this text above.

His Analogy is Incorrect.

A larger Ring does cause a larger change of the Speed of the Back Wheel.

The gaps increase. As per Table Below.

Front Ring    Cadence        Gear    RPM of Rear Wheel        Change in RPM

38                       70        17          156,4705882        
38                       70        15          177,3333333            20,8627451
36                       70        17          148,2352941        
36                       70        15          168                           19,76470588
34                       70        17          140        
34                       70        15          158,6666667            18,66666667
32                       70        17          131,7647059        
32                       70        15          149,3333333            17,56862745
30                       70        17          123,5294118        
30                       70        15          140                           16,47058824

 

 

Jehosefat

Mar 14, 2023, 10:03 AM

1 hour ago, dasilvarsa said:

 

Dont'  buy this text above.

His Analogy is Incorrect.

A larger Ring does cause a larger change of the Speed of the Back Wheel.

The gaps increase. As per Table Below.

Front Ring    Cadence        Gear    RPM of Rear Wheel        Change in RPM

38                       70        17          156,4705882        
38                       70        15          177,3333333            20,8627451
36                       70        17          148,2352941        
36                       70        15          168                           19,76470588
34                       70        17          140        
34                       70        15          158,6666667            18,66666667
32                       70        17          131,7647059        
32                       70        15          149,3333333            17,56862745
30                       70        17          123,5294118        
30                       70        15          140                           16,47058824

 

 

I disagree with both of you. If you shift from the 15 on the back to the 17 and your speed stays the same then your cadence increases by the same amount regardless of the size of the chainring.

As per the above, if you are pedaling at 70 RPM in the 15 gear and change up to the 17 gear (wheel RPM will remain constant as you change because inertia) your cadence must increase to 79.33333 to maintain the same speed. Regardless of the size of the front chainring.

dasilvarsa

Mar 14, 2023, 10:43 AM

40 minutes ago, Jehosefat said:

I disagree with both of you. If you shift from the 15 on the back to the 17 and your speed stays the same then your cadence increases by the same amount regardless of the size of the chainring.

As per the above, if you are pedaling at 70 RPM in the 15 gear and change up to the 17 gear (wheel RPM will remain constant as you change because inertia) your cadence must increase to 79.33333 to maintain the same speed. Regardless of the size of the front chainring.

In any Analogy you have to have a constant. (Science and Math, Nothing to do with Bicycles)

I'm changing from the 17 to the 15 and my BOT riding the bicycle can only pedal @ 70 RPM.

Jehosefat

Mar 14, 2023, 10:49 AM

6 minutes ago, dasilvarsa said:

In any Analogy you have to have a constant. (Science and Math, Nothing to do with Bicycles)

And in my example the constant is cadence.

Your mistake is that you are looking at absolute changes in wheel speed whereas in this case, the correct variable to consider is relative change in wheel speed. In your example the change in RPM is 11.765% of the 17 tooth gear rear wheel RPM regardless of the size of the chainring which supports my position.

dasilvarsa

Mar 14, 2023, 10:51 AM

1 minute ago, Jehosefat said:

And in my example the constant is cadence.

Your mistake is that you are looking at absolute changes in wheel speed whereas in this case, the correct variable to consider is relative change in wheel speed. In your example the change in RPM is 11.765% of the 17 tooth gear regardless of the size of the chainring which supports my position.

Cool

 

babse

Mar 14, 2023, 10:55 AM

Like an episode of the Big bang theory 🤨

DieselnDust

Mar 15, 2023, 2:40 PM

Hello ….. Sheldon here

you’re all wrong 

 

We’re only interested in the relative change in development between gears. 
what is the percentage change.

dividing a little number by a bigger number results in a smaller change

1/2 is bigger than 1/3 and so on

For you fatties

if I divide the pizza by 34 or 38 which gives me the bigger slices?

 

dasilvarsa

Mar 15, 2023, 6:21 PM

3 hours ago, DieselnDust said:

Hello ….. Sheldon here

you’re all wrong 

 

We’re only interested in the relative change in development between gears. 
what is the percentage change.

dividing a little number by a bigger number results in a smaller change

1/2 is bigger than 1/3 and so on

For you fatties

if I divide the pizza by 34 or 38 which gives me the bigger slices?

 

I only Eat Calzone

Spike Milligan

Apr 2, 2023, 3:15 PM

Anybody shed some light on the sizing of the frame? Currently on a Giant Anthem Large and looking at the Titan. I am 182 but sense the Titan feels every so slightly a bit smaller...
dasilvarsa

Apr 2, 2023, 3:40 PM

Pop in to a bike shop, they will size you up in a jiffy.

25 minutes ago, Spike Milligan said:

Anybody shed some light on the sizing of the frame? Currently on a Giant Anthem Large and looking at the Titan. I am 182 but sense the Titan feels every so slightly a bit smaller...

 

 

Spike Milligan

Apr 2, 2023, 3:45 PM

Just now, dasilvarsa said:

Pop in to a bike shop, they will size you up in a jiffy.

 

 

I did actually, and the large does seem right, but I sit higher on my Giant which makes me wonder. Guess just geometry that is different. 

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