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Review: Titan Racing Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate

Words by Matt Eagar. Images by Iwan Kemp

By Bike Hub Features · 159 comments

Over nearly two decades in our market, Titan Racing has earned a reputation as a brand that delivers a lot of bike for your money. The Cypher dual suspension mountain bike is no exception and delivers value across the range that is tough to beat.

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The Cypher platform is available in two variants: 1) Cypher RS with 100mm front and rear travel and 2) Cypher with 120mm front and rear travel. Either option is available as a full carbon or aluminium frame. We tested the race-ready, range topping Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate.

The full carbon frame has all you’d want and expect: internal cable routing for a clean look, a threaded bottom bracket, a flip-chip for the geometry tinkerers and, yes, it has room for two bottles within the front triangle on all sizes except small.

image.jpegTwo bottles, full throttle! (Unless you’re petite)

Both Cypher variants share the same frame but make use of shocks with different stroke lengths to achieve the 120mm travel vs. 100mm travel. In designing the Cypher, the team at Titan opted for the well proven horst-link suspension layout.

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High-end componentry abounds: including XX1 Eagle AXS and, a DT Swiss XRC 1501 carbon wheelset

The Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate is drizzled in all high-end componentry, starting with SRAM XX1 Eagle AXS wireless shifting, top-spec Fox Factory suspension and the “bullet proof” DT Swiss XRC 1501 carbon wheelset.

On the bike

Let’s get this out the way first up: absent any podium ambitions, I don’t regard myself as the intended buyer of this racier Cypher sibling. Having become perhaps too dependent on dropper posts, navigating a rigid seatpost and a little less travel upfront (100mm vs. 120mm) was a somewhat daunting prospect.

After a few awkward encounters with the pointy end of the saddle, my brain and body remembered that we all once rode (and mostly survived) sans dropper post. And once those jitters settled and biases faded, the bike was a whole lot of fast and fun on my local Tokai trails. For my middle of the curve trail appetite, the 100mm rear travel on the Cypher RS went surprisingly far. In fact, I’d say I’d go so far as to say it’s probably enough for my typical riding and the majority of riders in South Africa.

The bike handled itself well on descents, thriving on smoother flowing trails where it urges you to push harder and throw the bike about just a little. On the mildly technical trails you might encounter in a stage race or marathon event it felt solid and composed. However, even with the seat post manually dropped, on steeper technical terrain I did feel the limits of the skinny front end in terms of rubber, travel, and that hint of flex in the fork. While the non-RS version exists with 120mm front and rear out the box, I can’t help but imagine this RS with a slightly burlier 120mm fork and a dropper post being the magic mix for any stage race middle-marker like myself who enjoys a trail or two most weekends.

As you might expect, the bike climbs well. At 11.25kg on our scales, it’s not the lightest in this class but it feels sufficiently light on the trail. The reasonably steep seat tube angle makes for a comfortable and efficient climbing position. Add in the dual position remote lockout and the ease of Eagle AXS it’s all very easy when it comes to controls. Even in open mode the bike feels smooth and efficient on climbs without being too active. And, when you need it, full lockout is just a click away.

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image.jpegDouble remote lockout beefs up an almost-pristine cockpit.

Dual remote lockout may not be to everyone’s taste in terms of form or function. I’m not a fan of the extra clutter it adds to what would be a pristine part-wireless cockpit, but I have to admit that it’s convenient when you’re in a pinch.

Overall the Cypher RS felt great. It’s fast, nippy and fun on tight single-tracks while surprisingly tolerant and stable in the more techy stuff. Out of the box the setup is just about perfect for many of the typical marathon stage races in South Africa. The beauty of the Cypher frame is that it’s a bit of a Swiss army knife. Whether you’re buying the Cypher or the Cypher RS, you’ve got some tune-ability in the flip chip and the option of running 120mm or 100mm with a few tweaks.

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image.jpegThere is a flip chip for the tinkerers, making the Cypher RS a versatile choice for South African marathon racers

While the SRAM vs. Shimano and Fox vs. Rockshox troops might nitpick some choices, the component spec of Cypher RS Carbon Ultimate really does not put a foot wrong for a race-oriented 100mm mountain bike. Couple all that with a five year multi-user warranty and an unbelievably good price tag, I’m left asking why anyone would consider a “big global brand” spending at least 40% more in the process?

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Full Specifications

  • Frame: Cypher Carbon Frameset Flip Chip / Internal Cable Routing / Boost 148mm With Thru Axle / BSA 73mm
  • Fork: Fox Factory 32 Float SC 100mm with 2 position remote
  • Shock: Fox Factory Float, 2 position REMOTE / SV EVOL / 190 x 37.5mm / 0.2SPACER / DCF / DRM / CMF
  • Wheels: DT Swiss Carbon XRC 1501 Spline
  • Tyres: Vittoria Barzo 29″ X 2.25, XC-Race 120tpi Nylon / 4c Graphene 2.0 Compound / Tan Sidewall
  • Brakes: SRAM Level Ultimate with 180mm rotors
  • Rear derailleur: SRAM XX1 EAGLE AXS
  • Shifter: SRAM XX1 EAGLE AXS
  • Crankset: SRAM Carbon Crankarm, SRAM XX1 EAGLE 32T (S – 170mm CRANKARM / M+L+XL – 175mm)
  • Bottom bracket: SRAM XX1 DUB BSA 73mm
  • Chain: SRAM XX1 Eagle Copper
  • Handlebar: TR Pro Carbon Flat 760mm
  • Stem: TR Pro Alloy Stem (S = 60mm / M/L = 80mm / Xl = 100mm)
  • Saddle: Prologo Dimension
  • Seatpost: TR Pro Carbon Seat Post 31.6mm
  • Weight: 11.25kg with sealant & cages, no pedals.

RRP: R130,000

Comments

TheoG

Jan 25, 2023, 7:31 AM

14 minutes ago, PhilipV said:

Okay I'll bite:
Santa can be considered premium, but only because of high cost and limited production coupled to only being available in a few bike shops makes them seem premium. 

Scott, Merida, Giant, Cannondale, and Specialized are about as premium as a Toyota Hilux. And as common. I'm saying this as a Scott owner. Nothing premium about my bike. 

Vitus and  YT are mail order bikes. That is like saying you get better service at Outsurance while holding the line for thirty minutes after someone drove into you. At least you saved some money hey?

Like Jewbacca wrote. "Premium" is a mindset in the consumer, and it is influenced by marketing. But you pay for that, wether it translates to a better ride or peace of mind is debatable. But we are all emotional about bikes, so rationality is put aside. 

I agree with you in principle.

Perception work both ways, can be good or bad.  Unfortunately too many things are based on perception.

Each of us look at bikes differently and compare different features to make up our minds on what bike we like or want to buy.

A proper set of objective things to compare would be awesome but we will for sure not all agree on what should be included on that list.

In the end make up your own mind based on your own reference and ride what you like and like what you ride ....

Eish, I'm being very philosophical today ... 🤪🙈.

Jewbacca

Jan 25, 2023, 9:41 AM

2 hours ago, WT said:

Definitely makes sense that most of the mountain bike business in SA is in the XCM/Stage racing scene. If I were TR racing I would most probably do the same.

From a business standpoint I completely get focusing your efforts on the bikes that will make you money. 

I really was just pondering along on the question of "what makes a premium brand".

There has definitely been some growth in the enduro scene... Look at places like Wolwespruit now paying for someone from the Trails crew (The guys that helped build the Darkfest stuff for those who don't know) to keep building more flow lines and big jumps. Places like Hellsend are fairly new. All of this is providing people with options to start trying a previously "underground" discipline much more easily and often find that they need something more than a normal XC bike if they want to progress. 

I agree that Pyga do have a big market portion historically but it does seem that lately they are getting a little "boutique" with their prices. At R80k for a carbon frame, you could get something from almost any other premium brand as well. It seems like TREK have taken a lot of market share lately. I reckon that is simply because their bikes are a lot cheaper (And have good support too). Are they better? Probably not... However the amount of TREK bikes around makes me think that the average NEW rider wants a bike they can see in the shop, grab and buy right there, and that is where I think a company like TR could fill a gap. At least that has been my observation in the last few months. 

I ride a Pyga myself and I absolutely love it, but if I needed to buy a new bike now... Probably would end up going with something else.

But these are probably just the ramblings of someone who likes bikes too much😅

With Pyga, their production costs are really high. Local welders, local carbon layup, in house staff and setup.

They don't sell huge volume either.

I think one of the telling things is the amount of old model enduro bikes seen at Enduros.

The fancy enduro guys with cash to burn are all riding e-bikes these days, as they can get more runs in a morning while burning less Craft Beer calories. 

I don't think there is a gap to fill in the gravity market. Established brands have come and failed. The amount of 2014 Pygas and Spez Enduro/Stumpys seen on the trails daily sort of illustrates the market trends

MTBRIDER1234

Jan 25, 2023, 9:45 AM

2 hours ago, PhilipV said:

Okay I'll bite:
Santa can be considered premium, but only because of high cost and limited production coupled to only being available in a few bike shops makes them seem premium. 

Scott, Merida, Giant, Cannondale, and Specialized are about as premium as a Toyota Hilux. And as common. I'm saying this as a Scott owner. Nothing premium about my bike. 

Vitus and  YT are mail order bikes. That is like saying you get better service at Outsurance while holding the line for thirty minutes after someone drove into you. At least you saved some money hey?

Like Jewbacca wrote. "Premium" is a mindset in the consumer, and it is influenced by marketing. But you pay for that, wether it translates to a better ride or peace of mind is debatable. But we are all emotional about bikes, so rationality is put aside. 

I agree with this, but IMHO, Yeti s the most premium. No question. Their bikes are top of the line, and the prices and quality reflect that. They are super hard to beat and they also have the iconic look dialed in

WT

Jan 25, 2023, 10:07 AM

14 minutes ago, Jewbacca said:

With Pyga, their production costs are really high. Local welders, local carbon layup, in house staff and setup.

They don't sell huge volume either.

I think one of the telling things is the amount of old model enduro bikes seen at Enduros.

The fancy enduro guys with cash to burn are all riding e-bikes these days, as they can get more runs in a morning while burning less Craft Beer calories. 

I don't think there is a gap to fill in the gravity market. Established brands have come and failed. The amount of 2014 Pygas and Spez Enduro/Stumpys seen on the trails daily sort of illustrates the market trends

Of course the local labour makes it more expensive, that is to be expected. My point was just that for the average joe looking to buy a first new enduro bike they may now be too pricey. I do think they are going for the more "boutique" reputation though so nothing necessarily wrong with that.

I agree that e-bikes seem to be the new thing for a lot of guys now though. Definitely apparent when you look at what the big bike shops like cycle lab are stocking (I have not seen a proper "non-e" trail bike on their website for a while now).

But really interesting to hear your opinion. As a more trail/enduro oriented rider myself (no e-bikes or beers though😜) it is really easy to forget how small the community really still is. 

Always really cool to hear other perspectives, appreciate it!

DieselnDust

Jan 25, 2023, 11:12 AM

22 hours ago, MTBRIDER1234 said:

I wasn't saying buy all the parts new. For 130k you could easily build that up with some second hand lightly used parts. Ask me how I built my PYGA for half of retail with a very solid spec.

Ok well that’s a different matter and certainly the way I’d approach it but we can’t compare a new bike with a new frame fitted with 2nd hand parts. Those are two different approaches. 
As far as new bikes goes the titan is still the best price performance ratio. Yes R130k is a lot of money but it’s still a lot less than similar spec “boutique “ brands 

inis just released a new made in Vietnam Exie that’s 30% cheaper Than the Exie USA but 250gr heavier.

Is the made in USA version worth the extra cash?

Murrob

Jan 25, 2023, 6:47 PM

I feel like we would all be better off if we were honest about what we ride and what we would like to ride and then look at frame geometry for fit and characteristics.  Then look at components and value as a total package… I would definitely be in for the Titan. Their new road and mtb offering look super. 

Then throw the above all out the window and buy what you makes you happy. I’ll say again, the Titan in the current market present really great value in terms of the total package. But if it doesn’t make you want to turn around and look at it again after walking past it for whatever reason, then buy whatever you believe to be better. Its good to hear about the after sales service and warranty, that’s ultimately where it starts and stops, your boutique unobtanium bike is useless if you can’t get after sales service or spares for it. And that then it really just talking about the frame I suppose, the rest is down to the components manufacturers/distributors and their willingness to back their products or not (cold hot anyone?!)

carlheinz

Jan 26, 2023, 10:58 AM

On 1/24/2023 at 10:43 PM, Patrice gautier said:

Got my Titan cypher ultimate today.

Did everything i needed to do to it to eg comfortable. 

Will still tweek as i ride.

The bike out the box in a medium  came in at 11.06kg.

I removed the standard  grips and replaced then, also changed a few thing that wher on the bike. 

Added  my xtr pedals and 2 x bottle cage and tubeless conversion. 

Bike is ride ready at 11.06 kg to ride Tomorrow 

 

Tomorrow  we ride

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How did it ride?

Currently looking at this beast after finding this damn bikehub review😄
Rolling on a Anthem Pro 2020 with XTR and Fox Live.

I was just pondering if an upgrade/swap would be a good idea...

 

Scott roy

Feb 3, 2023, 6:11 PM

Could anyone tell me what’s the maximum size chainring you can run on one of these?

JacquesJ

Feb 4, 2023, 2:53 AM

8 hours ago, Scott roy said:

Could anyone tell me what’s the maximum size chainring you can run on one of these?

I have the Cypher Pro and was told by Titan it can go to 36. 38 apparantly wont fit. Suspect it will be the same for the Ultimate.

Scott roy

Feb 4, 2023, 7:33 AM

4 hours ago, Jacques Joubert WC said:

I have the Cypher Pro and was told by Titan it can go to 36. 38 apparantly wont fit. Suspect it will be the same for the Ultimate.

Thanks, that’s a bit disappointing 

JacquesJ

Feb 4, 2023, 9:54 AM

Maybe chat to a lbs...this might be the spec they have tested and officially support it, but in reality you may be able to get a 38 in there. Let me know if you do find out anything different to what I know

Scott roy

Feb 4, 2023, 10:49 AM

54 minutes ago, Jacques Joubert WC said:

Maybe chat to a lbs...this might be the spec they have tested and officially support it, but in reality you may be able to get a 38 in there. Let me know if you do find out anything different to what I know

I’ll find out when I get mine this week

ajnkzn

Feb 4, 2023, 2:32 PM

If you go 6mm offset chainring it’ll probably work with a 38. 
 

Jbr

Feb 4, 2023, 2:41 PM

On 1/18/2023 at 1:58 PM, AllAboutRides said:

Jeeezzzz I really hope that all of you are pro’s, didn’t know weight of a bike will make you a better rider, ride more and loose some weight, much better!

I think this is great value for money and if I’m correct Bike Addict sold them for R109 000 at one stage, so even better!

S-works / Specialized over rated, R240 000 for a bike is ridiculous, but still people buy them / finance them because of the brand.

Give Titan Racing the credit for developing well priced / speced bikes and I’m 200% sure there is more to come

109 is still plenty of money. Spent 60k on a 2019 lefty highmod in 2021 and reading this thread I’m definitely not selling it anytime soon if 110k is now considered « cheap » for a 11+ kg bike. I think at the time my hi-mod xtr was valuated at 130k new by the insurer. Feels like a lifetime ago now that post covid madness has hit the industry

guidodg

Feb 4, 2023, 6:35 PM

4 hours ago, ajnkzn said:

If you go 6mm offset chainring it’ll probably work with a 38. 
 

you mean 0mm offset...not 6

Scott roy

Feb 4, 2023, 7:45 PM

54 minutes ago, BaGearA said:

It sucks that they're designed like this but very few modern dualies support anything bigger than a 36t round 

That is indeed very sad, I run a 36 oval typically and want to try a 38 ,it will be a bit sad if I have to go back to a 36 round…

Titan Racing Bikes

Feb 5, 2023, 5:59 PM

On 2/3/2023 at 8:11 PM, Scott roy said:

Could anyone tell me what’s the maximum size chainring you can run on one of these?

38T

Cliff, our head of design weighing in: 

"But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti squat, 36T is better."

Scott roy

Feb 5, 2023, 6:08 PM

8 minutes ago, Titan Racing Bikes said:

38T

Cliff, our head of design weighing in: 

"But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti squat, 36T is better."

Thanks a lot ,i’ll be running a 36 oval so that’s fine

 

JacquesJ

Feb 6, 2023, 3:50 AM

9 hours ago, Titan Racing Bikes said:

38T

Cliff, our head of design weighing in: 

"But I wouldn't recommend it - personally I think it ruins the anti squat, 36T is better."

Great, thanks for the feedback. Now that I know my bike can handle 38T I dont have an excuse/reason for running something smaller any more. I guess I have be honest and admit that its my legs that can't do 38T... 

babse

Feb 6, 2023, 4:59 AM

Very interestingly okes are riding 38T... Not fortunate to have any climbs around 🤨

TheoG

Feb 6, 2023, 5:41 AM

11 hours ago, Scott roy said:

Thanks a lot ,i’ll be running a 36 oval so that’s fine

 

I have a 36 and 38 for both of my bikes.  When riding flat & fast I prefer the 38 but mostly use the 36 at the moment since I'm trying to do more climbing.

Scott roy

Feb 6, 2023, 5:56 AM

12 minutes ago, TheoG said:

I have a 36 and 38 for both of my bikes.  When riding flat & fast I prefer the 38 but mostly use the 36 at the moment since I'm trying to do more climbing.

how does the 38 feel? I've been running 36 ovals for quite a while now and I regularly find myself wanting a bit more but a 38 is quite a chainring to run as specially since there is no such thing as flats near me. 

TheoG

Feb 6, 2023, 6:17 AM

14 minutes ago, Scott roy said:

how does the 38 feel? I've been running 36 ovals for quite a while now and I regularly find myself wanting a bit more but a 38 is quite a chainring to run as specially since there is no such thing as flats near me. 

I like it BUT, it only add a little to your top speed with the detriment that in granny up a steep incline you keep wishing you were rather on a 36 ..... 🤪

If you are strong, light and fit though 38 might be the thing for you.

When I am on goal weight about 15kg lower than now, I would seriously consider running 38 most of the time.

Scott roy

Feb 6, 2023, 6:22 AM

1 minute ago, TheoG said:

I like it BUT, it only add a little to your top speed with the detriment that in granny up a steep incline you keep wishing you were rather on a 36 ..... 🤪

If you are strong, light and fit though 38 might be the thing for you.

When I am on goal weight about 15kg lower than now, I would seriously consider running 38 most of the time.

well I like the idea of that too because I think I would get more life out of my cassettes since the wear is normally concentrated on the lower cogs and the largest two cogs typically go unused. I'm looking forward to seeing how the new bike goes with a 36 and maybe a 38 in the future though

dave303e

Feb 6, 2023, 7:56 AM

2 hours ago, babse said:

Very interestingly okes are riding 38T... Not fortunate to have any climbs around 🤨

honestly, I did a 160km ride the other day which came to within 5km of our farm and 36 was too short in terms of gearing. Think we had 1700m gain in 160km. 

It's so flat here you can watch the dog run away from home for 3 days...

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