Hollard Juma 2015: bigger, better and more badass than ever!

Instead of complaining about the race. Why don't you contact the organizers with suggestions instead? I happen to know they are riders actually. Not as experienced as many on here but they do want to improve and highlight the sport and the areas in which we play. I know for a fact that they would take considerations into account. So be constructive. Not just armchair critics who think they know more than anyone else.

@ Dirt Merchant, you are talking about legacy, not value.

Yeah, you're right...but at least you got my point.

Instead of complaining about the race. Why don't you contact the organizers with suggestions instead? I happen to know they are riders actually. Not as experienced as many on here but they do want to improve and highlight the sport and the areas in which we play. I know for a fact that they would take considerations into account. So be constructive. Not just armchair critics who think they know more than anyone else.

Went to enter saw the price, immediately emailed them asking to please reconsider the price. I really want to ride but I won't pay more than 250 for the 55km.

I know Andy Hatfield ( who I respect as a startup guy and host of za tech) was involved and I know he is big into his riding from listing to his podcast. So ja don't know him personally but know his is a mtbr

Instead of complaining about the race. Why don't you contact the organizers with suggestions instead? I happen to know they are riders actually. Not as experienced as many on here but they do want to improve and highlight the sport and the areas in which we play. I know for a fact that they would take considerations into account. So be constructive. Not just armchair critics who think they know more than anyone else.

I spoke to them last year before the race...Guess how many of my suggestions they listened to? Hint: About the same amount as the money that went back to the Spruit.

If you are not happy about the criticism of your product, don't advertise it on the Hub. We are experts at criticizing everything and everybody.

To be fair. You can't expect them to take all suggestions into account on their first try. They had to learn from their mistakes. Plus how close was it to race day? I'm sure a certain amount of humble pie has been eaten since last year. And we have time on our side to make suggestions to them. If enough people are willing I'm sure we could organize a gathering to give input.

I will be back this year for the 55, will be packing my own light for the tunnel.

The scaffolding and support along the route is where most of the cost comes in I think.

If more people stay away the quality of the event will improve , no people no bottlenecks .

I'm happy to be the test subject and will go race and ley you guys know how it went  

I'm hoping that last year's event scared off enough of the newbies/noobs/geriatrics so that the routes are less congested and so that there are less injuries. 

It was a fun route. The number of participants was just completely out of whack. 

I think that for the first year it was awesome , this year limited entries and 2 separate routes should ease bottlenecks. the price is fair for  what you get they spend 1.5 million on the route .

say what you want of the juma last year, but the event has improved the condition and safety of the spruit dramatically, most notably cleaning up big time and the addition of the sections underneath Jan-smuts, Conrad and William Nicol.  I believe they are going to build a permanent route underneath Tana and hopefully the extra traffic will make the spruit safer in general.

For making my backyard safer and more fun I'm willing to pay R500 even if there isn't an event at all.  Count me in!!!

IN - hope to stay upright this year 

say what you want of the juma last year, but the event has improved the condition and safety of the spruit dramatically, most notably cleaning up big time and the addition of the sections underneath Jan-smuts, Conrad and William Nicol.  I believe they are going to build a permanent route underneath Tana and hopefully the extra traffic will make the spruit safer in general.

 

For making my backyard safer and more fun I'm willing to pay R500 even if there isn't an event at all.  Count me in!!!

Very true they are building a legacy project under Tana road so we don't have to cross those 2 roads anymore.

I disagree here. Just because you can ride the trails for free shouldn't put you off taking part in this event . I'm told the vibe was awesome even though there were bottlenecks and and and. You wont ever get that kinda vibe by pissing off the grannies and dog walkers. price of the event is for me and like most others here an issue. The comparison of two entry's is equivalent to the fuel cost of driving to Karkloof kinda seals it for me.

you cant ride the entire route only about 15km of it down the spruit , the rest is closed off 

R399 for 54km - WTF?  That's DOUBLE normal prices. 

its only R49 more than last year an limited entries  

Im entered now

Cant wait!!!

All I ask for is a bit more light in the dark tunnels, a suprise drop off in the dark almost left me with a new unwanted paste in my bibs.

Please dont give crap medals this year, the bells were a cool idea.

No crap USN tinned drink either at the end, rather something decent. I'd suck on my sweaty buff before drinking that hondnaai.

Im entered now

Cant wait!!!

 

All I ask for is a bit more light in the dark tunnels, a suprise drop off in the dark almost left me with a new unwanted paste in my bibs.

 

Please dont give crap medals this year, the bells were a cool idea.

 

No crap USN tinned drink either at the end, rather something decent. I'd suck on my sweaty buff before drinking that hondnaai.

Stop acting like a spoiled brat please

Stop acting like a spoiled brat please

Go back to your bridge please, dont come spoil this thread otherwise theres going to be more cases of Threadshedding in this hub

 

 

 

Sorry, not to nitpick, but I believe chopping into the banks to get under the three roads you mention (Jan Smuts, Conrad and William Nicol) was done before the JUMA and I'm pretty sure by the Spruit Fairy, not JUMA builders.

 

The crossing under William Nicol the JUMA builders widened with a wooden construction but they also took it down after the race. They did build the scaffolding ramp down under Tana road, but that also was removed soon after the race.

 

If I am incorrect please disagree here.

 

A Spruit Fairy worked with JUMA. On both existing and new sections, the under bridge sections were there long before JUMA, although the concrete pillars at the river crossing near Pick n Pay on William Nicol was a result of JUMA.

Is the route still going down the slimy concrete storm water drains where a lot of folks fell?

Also was very dark. Maybe ride with lights on...

Me - I reckon i can ride them in a sinch but the chances of falling and having a cracked hip or femur are just too great - rather sit this one out if they are in.

I cant see on the route.

Juma shmooma.....once was enough!

Im entered now

Cant wait!!!

 

All I ask for is a bit more light in the dark tunnels, a suprise drop off in the dark almost left me with a new unwanted paste in my bibs.

 

Please dont give crap medals this year, the bells were a cool idea.

 

No crap USN tinned drink either at the end, rather something decent. I'd suck on my sweaty buff before drinking that hondnaai.

What USN?? We had Mitchells Milk & Honey last year......loads of it. Maybe we should ride a little slower this year to reduce the drinking time 

Last year it was too much race for my skills and I guess it still is so I will once again abstain ....

Will be there

Nearly bliksemed down hard a couple of times but that happens to me on every mtb ride

Will be there

 

Nearly bliksemed down hard a couple of times but that happens to me on every mtb ride

maybe its time to refit those training wheels