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First Look: 2017 Momsen VIPA TWO

By Bike Hub Features · 48 comments

In 2017, we’re introducing the Bike Hub long-term test fleet. We’ll be putting these bikes through their paces as we would our own bikes for an entire year, documenting the highs and lows along the way to give a more thorough and practical review of the bikes.

The first bike to arrive is the Momsen VIPA TWO. The delivery caused a ripple of excitement in the office. Workstations were deserted as we unboxed: ooohing, aaahing, analysing the extent of the “yellow”, weighing components, and generally ogling this shiny new race weapon.

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Matt is our in-house Momsen VIPA expert, having ridden a 2015 VIPA XT for past two and half years, including the 2015 Absa Cape Epic. As a result, he’s been handed the new 2017 VIPA TWO for the year. Anyway, enough about us, let’s take a closer look at the bike.

The Momsen VIPA TWO features a single ring full Shimano XT drivetrain and with it, Momsen’s stiffer beefier 1x specific chainstay. The component spec is bang on and the bike is ready to race with a RockShox SID fork, Stan’s ZTR Crest rims, XT brakes, and Vee Tire Co.’s fast rolling Rail Tracker tyres. The VIPA’s 80mm of rear travel is controlled by a Fox Float performance series shock.

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The yellow and matte black colour scheme was initially a bit of a shock but the colours have grown on us. The bike has already been affectionately named the bumble bee. Great attention to detail is evident in the branding and colour scheme, which has been rolled out across every component on the bike. Bars, stem, seatpost and saddle all bear Momsen branding with yellow decals on a black background.

Momsen are proud of their African roots. This is evident on the top tube which carries their “Forged in the Untamed” tagline accompanied by a contour map of Port Elizabeth’s Baaken Valley trails – the home of Momsen Bikes.

Matt is looking forward to releasing this bike into the wild to see how it performs over the coming year.

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2017 Momsen VIPA TWO specifications:

  • SizesSmall, Medium, Large
  • FrameFull Carbon Front Triangle, Full Carbon 1x Rear Triangle, 80mm Rear Wheel Travel, Dual Waterbottle Mount Design ( for Medium and Large Size ), Integrated Toptube Box ( I.T.B )
  • ForkRockShox SID RL, 100mm Travel, ONELOC Remote Lockout, 15mm Thru-Axle Lowers
  • Rear ShockFox Float DPS, Performance Series, Firm Lockout
  • ChainwheelShimano XT M8000 32T for 11 Speed
  • Bottom BracketShimano BB-MT800 Pressfit
  • R. DerailleurShimano XT M8000 Shadow Plus for 11 Speed
  • ShifterShimano XT M8000 for 11 Speed
  • Brake LeversShimano XT M8000 Hydraulic
  • BrakesShimano XT M8000 Short Lever / SM-RT81 Centerlock Rotors / 160mm Front and Rear
  • CassetteShimano XT M8000 11-46T for 11 Speed
  • RimsStan’s ZTR Crest Mk3 Tubeless Ready, 32H
  • TiresVee Tire Co. Rail Tracker Custom Logo, 72tpi Folding Bead, 29 x 2.20 Front and Rear
  • HandlebarMomsen Oversize Flat Wide Alloy, 700mm, 6 Degree Sweep, 31.8mm Oversize
  • StemMomsen 3D Forged Oval, 31.8mm Oversize ( S – 90mm, M – 100mm, L – 100mm)
  • SeatpostMomsen Alloy, 31.6mm
  • SeatMomsen 2017 Custom, Composite Base, Chromoly Rail
  • HeadsetCustom Integrated Taper for VIPA
  • ColorsMomsen Yellow/ Matte Carbon
  • ChainShimano HG701 for 11 Speed
  • HubsetShimano XT M8000 Front 15mm Thru-Axle, FH-M8000 Rear 142 x 12mm Thru-Axle
  • SpokesStainless Butted with Alloy Nipples
  • GripsKraton Composite Lock-On
  • Advertised Weight11.85kg (Size: Large, Note: excludes pedals)
  • Retail PriceR62,500.00

Geometry

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Find out more:

To learn more about the VIPA TWO and other Momsen bikes, visit the Momsen Bikes website here.

You can also follow the latest news from Momsen Bikes on the following channels:

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Comments

SeanvR

Feb 3, 2017, 2:06 PM

Have there been any changes to the VIPA frame since 2013/2014, when it was introduced?

Big mods to the rear triangle. I think the brand is evolving each year.

 

The bike is a true stage racer with steeper head angle so might not be for everyone.

 

Very keen to hear the 'unbiased' review like the one done on the Epic. Big ups to Bikehub.

Slowbee

Feb 3, 2017, 2:09 PM

Can I use the boss'es old momsen vipa ? I mean it has done the Absa cape epic

IH8MUD

Feb 3, 2017, 2:50 PM

show me a brand that does not come from china land...

 

http://mercerbikes.co.za/

 

 

"Mister Miyagi voice"  You must practice Googling my son

 

Quick Google: "Bicycles  made in the USA"

 

http://www.usalovelist.com/american-made-bikes-trikes-high-performance-ultimate-source-list/

 

 

Not even going to do a UK Google.  

Griffin

Feb 3, 2017, 3:07 PM

I like it

So do I .

 

Maybe its a KZN thing. Rest of the country just jealous .. ;)

AJG

Feb 3, 2017, 3:18 PM

Big mods to the rear triangle. I think the brand is evolving each year.

 

The bike is a true stage racer with steeper head angle so might not be for everyone.

 

Very keen to hear the 'unbiased' review like the one done on the Epic. Big ups to Bikehub.

 

Isn't this exactly the same frame with new colors? The 1 x rear triangle was on last years bike. There was rumor of a Vipa trail but that never materialized. I personally don't think Momsen is evolving. They are using the same mold and manufacturing the same frame with new colors. It's a good bike (I owned one) but they do need to innovate. 

Odinson

Feb 3, 2017, 3:27 PM

Guess Momsen shelved the 'Trail' VIPA when Victor Momsen & Co. got their grubby paws on the rotting corpse of Morewood Bikes. 

 

https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/gear/gear-news/preview-2016-momsen-vipa-trail-featuring-275-compatability-r3303

 

 

At their recent dealer launch event, we spotted the latest iteration of the Momsen VIPA Trail. Scheduled for launch in the second quarter of 2016, the Trail version will provide a longer travel option to the VIPA lineup with a "mild" and a "wild" build option.

Iwan Kemp

Feb 3, 2017, 4:28 PM

In reply to the comments about innovating and updating etc. The basis of the frame as we know it today was launched in 2014 which makes 2017 its 3rd model year. It has seen some running updates, but no major overall or "innovation" since then and that the 2nd bottle mount is quite clever. You could also argue that putting INTERNAL routing for a dropper on a dedicated XC bike back then was quite forward thinking and ahead of the curve. 

 

Look at any other brand and you will soon realize that a frame needs to run 3 - 5 years to make money - most update a bike in its 4th year. Innovating EVERY SINGLE YEAR will mean new molds, new costs, new marketing new everything which will make bikes even more expensive. Soon we will have okes posting images of SUV's in reply to a bicycle's RRP. 

 

Back to the VIPA. There's nothing strange about it only seeing some color and rolling updates. It makes economic sense and is the way EVERYONE does it. Yes, the Scalpel and Spark are ground up new designs, but how long were the previous models running around for?

 

As far as INNOVATION is concerned. What do you guys have in mind? A new axle standard? The way a crank mounts to a frame? Something so new that it drives up costs or forces a new standard on us? Who has been INNOVATING anyway? What counts as INNOVATION? I'd say the first suspension fork was INNOVATION. So too dual suspension bike, new suspension designs, etc. Yes, there are innovations but surely we can't expect every manufacturer to innovate every year in order for us to be happy. 

 

Do a search on YouTube for the Momsen VIPA and a Google search for the launch articles and you will soon learn that the frame wasn't bought from anywhere. The mold is owned by Momsen with the workings of the suspension courtesy of Patrick Morewood. 

 

While I have the mic... For a brand like Momsen it takes LONGER to pay off the design, R&D and mold costs as a) each frames costs more due to volume compared to the big guys b) so far there has only been one dual suspension bike in their range to recover costs against. [spez develop in-downtube SWAT. They roll that out to several models so the cost of that bit of R&D is very small per frame] 

 

This is not unique in the bike trade. BMW's F800GS has been running around largely unchanged since 2009. The VW Golf sees an update every 4-5 years and for those who haven't noticed since the Golf 5 the mid-life update has not been called that, but rather "Golf 6". Imagine Apple calling the 7s an 8 and the drama that will come from that. 

 

So, I'd say if in year 5 there is still no sign of a new and updated VIPA, then we will can all have a bit of a moan. ESPECIALLY if their marketing team tries to foil us. 

Iwan Kemp

Feb 3, 2017, 4:34 PM

Guess Momsen shelved the 'Trail' VIPA when Victor Momsen & Co. got their grubby paws on the rotting corpse of Morewood Bikes. 

 

https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/gear/gear-news/preview-2016-momsen-vipa-trail-featuring-275-compatability-r3303

 

It's been seen around PE. Launch apparently not too far off

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPCYh-1h2Rq

momsenbikesnew VIPA Trail sighting .... #comingsoon #carbon #120
Jaco-fiets

Feb 3, 2017, 4:35 PM

Nah............still a momsen

fusion01

Feb 4, 2017, 5:59 AM

For me that comes down to preference.

 

Personally I prefer the fact that there's no remote lockout on the rear. Having it on the front makes a lot of sense for those last minute situations (when you forget). But not having a single lever for both means you can independently control the lockout on each. And a separate remote lockout for each would just mean a cluttered cockpit!

 

 

All fine and well if you REMEMBER to unlock it though, I've often found myself battered after a long often (rocky) descent because I forgot to flip the flippin' lever... you've been cycling for endless hours in high heat, your brain is frazzled, the manual activity becomes more difficult. Fact. Yes more clutter is an issue but with a 1x spec, give me a rear lock only to replace what is often fitted to control the front and I'm happy (I don't even need a front at all, I leave that open on trails).

Shebeen

Feb 4, 2017, 8:36 AM

In reply to the comments about innovating and updating etc. The basis of the frame as we know it today was launched in 2014 which makes 2017 its 3rd model year. It has seen some running updates, but no major overall or "innovation" since then and that the 2nd bottle mount is quite clever. You could also argue that putting INTERNAL routing for a dropper on a dedicated XC bike back then was quite forward thinking and ahead of the curve.

 

Look at any other brand and you will soon realize that a frame needs to run 3 - 5 years to make money - most update a bike in its 4th year. Innovating EVERY SINGLE YEAR will mean new molds, new costs, new marketing new everything which will make bikes even more expensive. Soon we will have okes posting images of SUV's in reply to a bicycle's RRP.

 

Back to the VIPA. There's nothing strange about it only seeing some color and rolling updates. It makes economic sense and is the way EVERYONE does it. Yes, the Scalpel and Spark are ground up new designs, but how long were the previous models running around for?

 

As far as INNOVATION is concerned. What do you guys have in mind? A new axle standard? The way a crank mounts to a frame? Something so new that it drives up costs or forces a new standard on us? Who has been INNOVATING anyway? What counts as INNOVATION? I'd say the first suspension fork was INNOVATION. So too dual suspension bike, new suspension designs, etc. Yes, there are innovations but surely we can't expect every manufacturer to innovate every year in order for us to be happy.

 

Do a search on YouTube for the Momsen VIPA and a Google search for the launch articles and you will soon learn that the frame wasn't bought from anywhere. The mold is owned by Momsen with the workings of the suspension courtesy of Patrick Morewood.

 

While I have the mic... For a brand like Momsen it takes LONGER to pay off the design, R&D and mold costs as a) each frames costs more due to volume compared to the big guys b) so far there has only been one dual suspension bike in their range to recover costs against. [spez develop in-downtube SWAT. They roll that out to several models so the cost of that bit of R&D is very small per frame]

 

This is not unique in the bike trade. BMW's F800GS has been running around largely unchanged since 2009. The VW Golf sees an update every 4-5 years and for those who haven't noticed since the Golf 5 the mid-life update has not been called that, but rather "Golf 6". Imagine Apple calling the 7s an 8 and the drama that will come from that.

 

So, I'd say if in year 5 there is still no sign of a new and updated VIPA, then we will can all have a bit of a moan. ESPECIALLY if their marketing team tries to foil us.

don't really understand the level of hating on this thread... Bike looks baie mnandi in the flesh
pellieg

Feb 4, 2017, 4:02 PM

http://www.intensecycles.com/sites/default/files/bikes/product/foundation-profile/ACV-FND.png

Eugene Oppelt

Feb 4, 2017, 4:08 PM

Lekka insightful post, Iwan Kemp ????????

Milkman

Feb 4, 2017, 7:12 PM

In reply to the comments about innovating and updating etc. The basis of the frame as we know it today was launched in 2014 which makes 2017 its 3rd model year. It has seen some running updates, but no major overall or "innovation" since then and that the 2nd bottle mount is quite clever. You could also argue that putting INTERNAL routing for a dropper on a dedicated XC bike back then was quite forward thinking and ahead of the curve.

 

Look at any other brand and you will soon realize that a frame needs to run 3 - 5 years to make money - most update a bike in its 4th year. Innovating EVERY SINGLE YEAR will mean new molds, new costs, new marketing new everything which will make bikes even more expensive. Soon we will have okes posting images of SUV's in reply to a bicycle's RRP.

 

 

 

Back to the VIPA. There's nothing strange about it only seeing some color and rolling updates. It makes economic sense and is the way EVERYONE does it. Yes, the Scalpel and Spark are ground up new designs, but how long were the previous models running around for?

 

As far as INNOVATION is concerned. What do you guys have in mind? A new axle standard? The way a crank mounts to a frame? Something so new that it drives up costs or forces a new standard on us? Who has been INNOVATING anyway? What counts as INNOVATION? I'd say the first suspension fork was INNOVATION. So too dual suspension bike, new suspension designs, etc. Yes, there are innovations but surely we can't expect every manufacturer to innovate every year in order for us to be happy.

 

Do a search on YouTube for the Momsen VIPA and a Google search for the launch articles and you will soon learn that the frame wasn't bought from anywhere. The mold is owned by Momsen with the workings of the suspension courtesy of Patrick Morewood.

 

While I have the mic... For a brand like Momsen it takes LONGER to pay off the design, R&D and mold costs as a) each frames costs more due to volume compared to the big guys b) so far there has only been one dual suspension bike in their range to recover costs against. [spez develop in-downtube SWAT. They roll that out to several models so the cost of that bit of R&D is very small per frame]

 

This is not unique in the bike trade. BMW's F800GS has been running around largely unchanged since 2009. The VW Golf sees an update every 4-5 years and for those who haven't noticed since the Golf 5 the mid-life update has not been called that, but rather "Golf 6". Imagine Apple calling the 7s an 8 and the drama that will come from that.

 

So, I'd say if in year 5 there is still no sign of a new and updated VIPA, then we will can all have a bit of a moan. ESPECIALLY if their marketing team tries to foil us.

 

I understand what you mean regarding the life cycle of a frame design regarding costs etc. And I actually like the Vipa design and am a HUGE patriot and love to support local guys. I do wonder though ( and I guys that's why a lot of guys are coming across as hating here ) - why call it a Vipa TWO ???? If they had rolled out the Vipa in new colors nobody would have whara whara' about it that much , but calling your product 2.0 in the series there should be some new things happening surely ?

Iwan Kemp

Feb 4, 2017, 7:16 PM

I understand what you mean regarding the life cycle of a frame design regarding costs etc. And I actually like the Vipa design and am a HUGE patriarch and love to support local guys. I do wonder though ( and I guys that's why a lot of guys are coming across as hating here ) - why call it a Vipa TWO ???? If they had rolled out the Vipa in new colors nobody would have whara whara' about it that much , but calling your product 2.0 in the series there should be some new things happening surely ?

 

The "Two" refers to the spec. Head to their site and you will see there's...

Team

One

Two

Etc. 

Milkman

Feb 4, 2017, 7:22 PM

The "Two" refers to the spec. Head to their site and you will see there's...

Team

One

Two

Etc.

 

Shot , thanks for clearing that up. I hope you can understand though how that might cause some confusion amongst the general cycling population ( or maybe I am just more dof than most ).

 

Edit : spelling

Rocket-Boy

Feb 4, 2017, 7:46 PM

Such hate at Momsen?? I like the look of the Vipa and spec seems okay. Price is of course ridiculous, but then the competition mentioned is the same. How much is a Stage or Camber or Epic?

yeah they are are all expensive but the stage is sexy as heck!

Sitting slip

Feb 4, 2017, 8:21 PM

http://mercerbikes.co.za/

 

 

"Mister Miyagi voice"  You must practice Googling my son

 

Quick Google: "Bicycles  made in the USA"

 

http://www.usalovelist.com/american-made-bikes-trikes-high-performance-ultimate-source-list/

 

 

Not even going to do a UK Google.  

sorry let me rephrase that. all the top selling bikes mentioned in this thread. putting Mercer and back yard builds in comparison here is like putting Zuma in the UN meetings.

Brickleberry

Feb 5, 2017, 8:44 AM

I absolutely love it . I think it looks great and I love the colors . I have a lot of love for The VIPA . Maybe one day bike prices will be reasonable .

Sitting slip

Feb 5, 2017, 9:20 AM

http://www.intensecycles.com/sites/default/files/bikes/product/foundation-profile/ACV-FND.png

this makes no sense.

Iwan Kemp

Feb 20, 2017, 9:31 AM

Shot , thanks for clearing that up. I hope you can understand though how that might cause some confusion amongst the general cycling population ( or maybe I am just more dof than most ).

 

Edit : spelling

 

Yeah, can see that. Saw this on Momsen's site - tells the story from concept to reality and should address some of the comments made.

 

http://momsenbikes.com/blog/its-seems-like-just-yesterday-the-vipa-story/

stefmeister

Feb 20, 2017, 9:43 AM

It's not an ugly bike at all, but the name puts me off. Might as well call Griesel, Bezuidenhout or Hofmeyer.

Eddy Gordo

Feb 20, 2017, 10:06 AM

 I like alot. Just the colour scheme is a bit to be desired. But looks like an effficient bike. Maybe one day......

Eddy Gordo

Feb 20, 2017, 10:31 AM

In reply to the comments about innovating and updating etc. The basis of the frame as we know it today was launched in 2014 which makes 2017 its 3rd model year. It has seen some running updates, but no major overall or "innovation" since then and that the 2nd bottle mount is quite clever. You could also argue that putting INTERNAL routing for a dropper on a dedicated XC bike back then was quite forward thinking and ahead of the curve. 

 

Look at any other brand and you will soon realize that a frame needs to run 3 - 5 years to make money - most update a bike in its 4th year. Innovating EVERY SINGLE YEAR will mean new molds, new costs, new marketing new everything which will make bikes even more expensive. Soon we will have okes posting images of SUV's in reply to a bicycle's RRP. 

 

Back to the VIPA. There's nothing strange about it only seeing some color and rolling updates. It makes economic sense and is the way EVERYONE does it. Yes, the Scalpel and Spark are ground up new designs, but how long were the previous models running around for?

 

As far as INNOVATION is concerned. What do you guys have in mind? A new axle standard? The way a crank mounts to a frame? Something so new that it drives up costs or forces a new standard on us? Who has been INNOVATING anyway? What counts as INNOVATION? I'd say the first suspension fork was INNOVATION. So too dual suspension bike, new suspension designs, etc. Yes, there are innovations but surely we can't expect every manufacturer to innovate every year in order for us to be happy. 

 

Do a search on YouTube for the Momsen VIPA and a Google search for the launch articles and you will soon learn that the frame wasn't bought from anywhere. The mold is owned by Momsen with the workings of the suspension courtesy of Patrick Morewood. 

 

While I have the mic... For a brand like Momsen it takes LONGER to pay off the design, R&D and mold costs as a) each frames costs more due to volume compared to the big guys b) so far there has only been one dual suspension bike in their range to recover costs against. [spez develop in-downtube SWAT. They roll that out to several models so the cost of that bit of R&D is very small per frame] 

 

This is not unique in the bike trade. BMW's F800GS has been running around largely unchanged since 2009. The VW Golf sees an update every 4-5 years and for those who haven't noticed since the Golf 5 the mid-life update has not been called that, but rather "Golf 6". Imagine Apple calling the 7s an 8 and the drama that will come from that. 

 

So, I'd say if in year 5 there is still no sign of a new and updated VIPA, then we will can all have a bit of a moan. ESPECIALLY if their marketing team tries to foil us. 

and hence the name VI(victor)PA(Patrick) 

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