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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 11:27 AM

A far more intelligent than me mate of mine quoted this when in discussion around e-Bikes...

 

The ones who dance are thought mad amongst those who could not hear the music.

A far more intelligent than me mate of mine quoted this when in discussion around e-bikes...

 

The ones who ride with motors are thought lazy amongst those who could get up the hill without one.

 

 

 

ps: If I have to tell you that was just a joke, then well you need an E-sense of humour more than you need an eBike :P

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 11:28 AM

I give him full rights and permission.............go forth and spread the word!

Awesome, so I will go take a few Strava KOMs on my eBike and when people moan about it, I will tell them its actually ok and that they must leave me alone, because you are a cool dad.

 

Because logic!

 

Edit: Ok, I'm tired of this now. Maybe I should get an e-Keyboard.

Escapee..

May 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

So not long before the Spur School Series will have an E-bike section?

Mambat

May 16, 2019, 11:35 AM

Awesome, so I will go take a few Strava KOMs on my eBike and when people moan about it, I will tell them its actually ok and that they must leave me alone, because you are a cool dad.

 

Because logic!

 

Edit: Ok, I'm tired of this now. Maybe I should get an e-Keyboard.

Now you playing the bullied schoolgirl.... Firstly good luck to you getting KOM's :devil:

 

secondly we have our own Strava section, with our own segments, leader-boards etc

 

Come on Patch... get with the times if you going all out hater!

rorydewet

May 16, 2019, 11:40 AM

Now you playing the bullied schoolgirl.... Firstly good luck to you getting KOM's :devil:

 

secondly we have our own Strava section, with our own segments, leader-boards etc

 

Come on Patch... get with the times if you going all out hater!

strava lets you tag activity as an e bike ride

 

you then compare e bike rides to e bike rides

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 11:41 AM

strava lets you tag activity as an e bike ride

 

you then compare e bike rides to e bike rides

No they dont!

Mambat

May 16, 2019, 11:42 AM

This has been the journey over the last 18 months.....

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Mambat

May 16, 2019, 11:45 AM

No they dont!

 

Bud...............please don't be schooled when you are wrong.

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 11:47 AM

I got flamed for suggesting that soon an eBike will have 2000w. Well here is one with 1500w and I will bet that it will be well over 2000w within 2 years. See the dirt fly as it rips-up the trail:

 

https://neematic.com/

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 11:48 AM

Bud...............please don't be schooled when you are wrong.

Strava does not have bike section!!

 

ps: Your post doesn't make sense. Surely one needs schooling most, when they are wrong? Or is school only for the privileged that are right?

MrJacques

May 16, 2019, 11:50 AM

I got flamed for suggesting that soon an eBike will have 2000w. Well here is one with 1500w and I will bet that it will be well over 2000w within 2 years. See the dirt fly as it rips-up the trail:

 

https://neematic.com/

 

Something like that should definitely be classified as a motorbike, not an assisted bicycle and only be allowed on trails where motorbikes are also allowed.

 

It does look like a lot of fun though.

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 11:52 AM

Its like they dont even pedal, the eBike is so powerful that pedaling is not needed at all. The pedals are there only to make the bike ok to ride mtb trails.

Ashchest

May 16, 2019, 11:53 AM

:P  :P  :P  :P

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:P  :P  :P  :P

Ascension

May 16, 2019, 11:55 AM

Something like that should definitely be classified as a motorbike, not an assisted bicycle and only be allowed on trails where motorbikes are also allowed.

 

It does look like a lot of fun though.

 

Hahah yeah I want one! But don`t want to ride mtb trails with it, that is just wrong. This is the point I`m making, eBikes should not be allowed on mtb trails at all. How will they monitor what eBikes have what power if trails are limited by power? The viable solution is to not allow eBikes at all - just ride a normal mtb, its great fun!

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 11:58 AM

Hahah yeah I want one! But don`t want to ride mtb trails with it, that is just wrong. This is the point I`m making, eBikes should not be allowed on mtb trails at all. How will they monitor what eBikes have what power if trails are limited by power? The viable solution is to not allow eBikes at all - just ride a normal mtb, its great fun!

 

Erm, easy.... Each MTB trail would invest in a dyno. MTB trails make heaps of cash, they can easily afford this.

 

They could actually even generate more revenue by offering tune ups....

 

Mambat

May 16, 2019, 12:01 PM

I got flamed for suggesting that soon an eBike will have 2000w. Well here is one with 1500w and I will bet that it will be well over 2000w within 2 years. See the dirt fly as it rips-up the trail:

 

https://neematic.com/

 

That is not a pedelec, it has a throttle, it is NOT ALLOWED on any MTB trails worlwide.

The pedelec bikes are pedal assisted only and give assistance up to a legally required 25Km/h in Europe, 32Km/h in US and RSA.

You can ungovern, uncork, modify the motors to give you more top-end speed.

However on the new generation motors they can immediately pickup that the speed limitation on wheel size has been tampered with if going the software route, cheers warranty!

You can mechanically mess with the bike but again the latest software seems to be able to identify the tampering.

 

I also hear laughable claims that ungoverned these bikes will do 60/70 km/h on the trail!

This is a myth! Remember we only have a maximum of 500W from the motor. The latest 2019 motors will give you a spike of around 700W , previous generation was around 685W.

Most pro-MTB riders generate those kind of watts regularly on climbs! Not a chance these grand pianos can reach those kinds of speeds on the flats or climbs.

Mambat

May 16, 2019, 12:10 PM

And yes there are more of us Dads and Lads on e-Bikes.

 

Five Dads currently and six boys.

 

 

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Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 12:13 PM

That is not a pedelec, it has a throttle, it is NOT ALLOWED on any MTB trails worlwide.

The pedelec bikes are pedal assisted only and give assistance up to a legally required 25Km/h in Europe, 32Km/h in US and RSA.

You can ungovern, uncork, modify the motors to give you more top-end speed.

However on the new generation motors they can immediately pickup that the speed limitation on wheel size has been tampered with if going the software route, cheers warranty!

You can mechanically mess with the bike but again the latest software seems to be able to identify the tampering.

 

I also hear laughable claims that ungoverned these bikes will do 60/70 km/h on the trail!

This is a myth! Remember we only have a maximum of 500W from the motor. The latest 2019 motors will give you a spike of around 700W , previous generation was around 685W.

Most pro-MTB riders generate those kind of watts regularly on climbs! Not a chance these grand pianos can reach those kinds of speeds on the flats or climbs.

 

erm... 

 

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Erm, easy.... Each MTB trail would invest in a dyno. MTB trails make heaps of cash, they can easily afford this.

 

They could actually even generate more revenue by offering tune ups....

 

Mambat

May 16, 2019, 12:26 PM

erm... 

 

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Patch not sure what you are trying to say here but E-Bikes sold in our market as Pedelec bikes

are limited to 500W and 32km/h.

 

Anything else is not legal therefore NO GO on the closed trails.

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 12:33 PM

Patch not sure what you are trying to say here but E-Bikes sold in our market as Pedelec bikes

are limited to 500W and 32km/h.

 

Anything else is not legal therefore NO GO on the closed trails.

I am saying that eBikes can do way more than 500w, so its not a "myth". the video proves it, so its FACT (trademark Specialized)

 

How would the poor Oom or tannie at the Meerdal gate know that my eBike is limited to 32kph? I have answered that they should have a dyno, because I am a problem solver like that. But until then, how?

 

Also, why are they illegal and your bikes aren't, why do you discriminate against that e-bike, but you say yours is ok? Is that a double standard? What if my son and I enjoy riding our 33kph 600w eBikes together and its how we bond?

NGM

May 16, 2019, 12:39 PM

What if one rides an ebike but it identifies as a regular bike? 

Patchelicious

May 16, 2019, 12:41 PM

What if one rides an ebike but it identifies as a regular bike? 

Exactly! My YZ250 identifies as an normal MTB, I duck taped some pedals to the side of the crank case and we will do the Epic together next year.

BigDL

May 16, 2019, 12:41 PM

That is not a pedelec, it has a throttle, it is NOT ALLOWED on any MTB trails worlwide.

The pedelec bikes are pedal assisted only and give assistance up to a legally required 25Km/h in Europe, 32Km/h in US and RSA.

You can ungovern, uncork, modify the motors to give you more top-end speed.

However on the new generation motors they can immediately pickup that the speed limitation on wheel size has been tampered with if going the software route, cheers warranty!

You can mechanically mess with the bike but again the latest software seems to be able to identify the tampering.

 

I also hear laughable claims that ungoverned these bikes will do 60/70 km/h on the trail!

This is a myth! Remember we only have a maximum of 500W from the motor. The latest 2019 motors will give you a spike of around 700W , previous generation was around 685W.

Most pro-MTB riders generate those kind of watts regularly on climbs! Not a chance these grand pianos can reach those kinds of speeds on the flats or climbs.

Interesting - My mates Ghost which he has added a thingymajiggy to, to fool the governor, can carry me at 50km/h on the flat with no problem at all. Not sure what impact that has on the warranty, but it doesn't feel like a bicycle to me. In fact, my son's KTM 125 ebike doesn't accelerate much faster. 

BigDL

May 16, 2019, 12:49 PM

I am looking at trails to ride in the Adirondack mountains in New York when we are there in July, and most of the ones I have looked at specify no ebikes. No idea why. Maybe they don't like motorbikes in their forests 

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