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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

SwissVan

Dec 4, 2018, 6:07 PM

And the cycle starts again...

Hope it wasn’t a bright spark that started the cycle

BigDL

Dec 4, 2018, 6:51 PM

Ebikes are absolute nonsense. Anyone who claims otherwise is not fit to be on a bicycle and should go and take up go-karting. I though we agreed this 15 pages ago.

gummibear

Dec 4, 2018, 6:57 PM

Ebikes are absolute nonsense. Anyone who claims otherwise is not fit to be on a bicycle and should go and take up go-karting. I though we agreed this 15 pages ago.

They do have a place but not on trails or races[emoji106][emoji6]

SwissVan

Dec 4, 2018, 8:00 PM

Sooo ebikes are should not be allowed on trails?

What about downhill trails where the gradient and trail offsets any emotor benefit?

 

On my local burg we have a nice 2.1km downhill only track

 

 

built at great expense by the local biker community and municipality. Its very popular with XC, XCM, enduro and downhiller types. To get to the start there are various very steep roads / footpaths / jeep tracks and a funicular train...

 

I've seen a few ebikes ride up and then back down and plenty of normal mtb's go up by train and ride back down...

 

Which is more acceptable, riding up by ebike or by train?  :whistling:

Eldron

Dec 4, 2018, 8:22 PM

Which is more acceptable, riding up by ebike or by train?  :whistling:

 

Neither! Earn your downs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

 

 

*yes that IS a lot of exclamation marks.

Thor Buttox

Dec 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

Sooo ebikes are should not be allowed on trails?

What about downhill trails where the gradient and trail offsets any emotor benefit?

 

On my local burg we have a nice 2.1km downhill only track

 

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built at great expense by the local biker community and municipality. Its very popular with XC, XCM, enduro and downhiller types. To get to the start there are various very steep roads / footpaths / jeep tracks and a funicular train...

 

I've seen a few ebikes ride up and then back down and plenty of normal mtb's go up by train and ride back down...

 

Which is more acceptable, riding up by ebike or by train? :whistling:

A funicular uses gears to get up steep hills with a motor. Probably would get up and down hills without ruining trails and creating Strava lines. Ban EBikes and just ride the train for your thrills, sir.

???????????? Funiculeeee, funiculaaaahhh ????????

aquaratza

Dec 5, 2018, 12:24 AM

e-bikes look like a lot of fun and I am tempted to get one haha, but ultimately it seems like the coming age of the e-bike is akin to the hordes about to flood through the gates.

 

Being fit enough to access the trails is it's own reward and relying on an e-bike to get you there feels like it diminishes that challenge/reward. It feels like a cheat. MTB carries some respect because it's self-powered and promotes fitness/health. I think this helps persuade land owners to allow it. Traditionally-powered bikes/quads are very damaging to the land/trails.

 

But maybe you're physically incapable of accessing the trails due to some underlying condition (disability?) and in these cases power-assistance seems acceptable.

 

I don't want the trails to go away...

patches

Dec 5, 2018, 2:19 AM

Is the title question asked from the point of

  1. keeping the sport "pure"?
  2. sharing trails with riders that can possibly go faster?
  3. racing, and fairness within events?
  4. the potential damage that a heavier, motor driven vehicle can extol on trails?
  5. or all of the above?

To that I say:

  1. The element of purism is a form of ludditic snobery and those that take this approach should also shun suspension, geared drive-trains, and hydraulic brakes.
  2. There are ALWAYS riders faster than oneself. No matter whether they achieve this by fitness, skill, electrical aid, or chemical stimulation  :ph34r:
  3. Possibly the only point I cannot argue. Yes, I think events should be categorized. Allow eBikes to participate, but group them accordingly.
  4. There are some rider/sub 10kg MTB combos that weigh more than the average person on an eBike   :ph34r:

And finally, while we're hating on eBikes, let us be sure we do so whilst pedaling our 60kg dope-free physiques on 26" chromoly SS rigid MTB's, winning races where only those that podium get medals. None of this "congratulations, you participated! Look under your chair, everyone gets a medal" crap.

 

and ask yourself...

 

"Do those that cycle for fun belong on the mountain?"

 

*tongue-in-cheek* ;) :ph34r: 

Chris_

Dec 5, 2018, 6:54 AM

I know my post isn't related to the sporting side of cycling but I thought of this thread the other day and had a little laugh.

 

We were on holiday in Zermatt, and the town does not allow any petrol/diesel cars, trucks or buses. So all you see are these tiny postman-pat-like electric vans humming along, and a ***-load of e-bikes.

 

The town is built into the side of an Alp so the assistance I imagine, is really needed. Just walking up some of those paths was a challenge.

Patchelicious

Dec 5, 2018, 7:18 AM

When your wife see's you took the eBike for a spin....

 

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Help.Me.

Dec 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

Mods please LOCK this FRED because i am very confused now......

Zatopek

Dec 6, 2018, 4:46 AM

At least they don't try to hide the assistance :)

 

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stefmeister

Dec 6, 2018, 5:22 AM

Mods please LOCK this FRED because i am very confused now......

Why, are you bikecurious now?

BigDL

Dec 6, 2018, 12:51 PM

Can we please change the title to “do motorbikes belong on the mountain?”

coppi

Dec 6, 2018, 1:05 PM

Just change it to :

 

You may also ride your e-bike on the trails, you still need skills ! 

Patchelicious

Dec 6, 2018, 1:52 PM

Saw this guys riding his new Levo on the spruit earlier.

 

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Adrian2

Dec 6, 2018, 2:01 PM

#6 100%

I believe they don't belong on the mountain but do believe we have nothing to worry about.At the moment they are only been ridden by pro's or ambassadors pushing them for the big companies OR the just plain fat and lazy.

Won't take long before pro's and ambassadors go back to their normal bikes and the fat and lazy by nature just park them all in the garage never to be ridden again.So we will see them on the trail now and neth but before long you won't see any.

Don't be fooled by the big companies saying it's going to take over.

They all just imported a shitload of ebikes they want to get rid of.

How many fat bikes we see on the trails now days?

 

My wife rides an e-bike, not to rip up the trails but to keep up with me on my 29 Mtb. It's great because we can ride together (it gives her parity). 

Sure, there are people "beating" strava records etc, but that's on a par with being juiced up.

 

For races, there should be a separate category, although i don't know how they are going to police it to get parity between the competitors.

Patchelicious

Dec 6, 2018, 2:09 PM

My wife rides an e-bike, not to rip up the trails but to keep up with me on my 29 Mtb. It's great because we can ride together (it gives her parity). 

Sure, there are people "beating" strava records etc, but that's on a par with being juiced up.

 

For races, there should be a separate category, although i don't know how they are going to police it to get parity between the competitors.

 

They have their own category already.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MotoE_World_Cup

Mamil

Dec 6, 2018, 2:18 PM

I've seen your strava sir buttox ... flat as a pancake ....

 

A funicular uses gears to get up steep hills with a motor. Probably would get up and down hills without ruining trails and creating Strava lines. Ban EBikes and just ride the train for your thrills, sir.

???????????? Funiculeeee, funiculaaaahhh ????????

Chingy182

Dec 6, 2018, 2:35 PM

They do have a place but not on trails or races[emoji106][emoji6]

In my heart I want to say I agree (only for old, sick, frail, disabled riders, etc, etc.)

 

I've had a few chats with guys on the mountains with their E-bikes.

I've realised it doesn't bother me in the slightest. 

Some interesting stories though once you chat to the guys.

One guy literally bought an ebike so he can go for longer rides in the same amount of time, so he can get back home and take care of 2 little kids. 

 

I just wouldn't give him a medal at the end of a race.

Chingy182

Dec 6, 2018, 2:38 PM

They do have a place but not on trails or races[emoji106][emoji6]

...got a bit distracted from what my actual thought was.

 

We've all met some people who have this exact same attitude towards ALL cyclists on the roads.

 

You know them... "roads are for cars, not bikes!! take your bike and p!$$ off"

BigDL

Dec 6, 2018, 3:22 PM

They should have indicators, number plates

and lights and stay on the road where they belong

ChrisF

Dec 6, 2018, 5:22 PM

They should have indicators, number plates

and lights and stay on the road where they belong

 

same mentality as : "Bicycles dont have number plates and should stay OFF the roads ..."

 

 

LIVE AND LET LIVE .....

Headshot

Dec 6, 2018, 5:40 PM

Blackwing you're a flippin saint man.What you doing on this forum then?

Eldron

Dec 6, 2018, 5:41 PM

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