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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Patchelicious

Mar 6, 2017, 11:04 AM

Well then, I'm riding this bike at 947!! Suckers!!!!!

 

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NicoBoshoff

Mar 6, 2017, 11:06 AM

according to one of the okes I ride with sometimes (Wayne Schell of Ride Rate Review on youtube) it's an absolute hoot. Instead of doing one or 2 contermanskloof mast laps in a typical ride, he'd be doing min 3. And getting better DH times 'cos he's fresher. Not much fresher, 'cos you still have to pedal, but fresh enough to make it a little better 

 

And no, the motor won't really kick in on the downhills unless you're coming out of a corner and even then it's not really that much assistance over the one or 2 pedal strokes you'd make normally to get you up to 25kph. 

 

Agreed that the throttle controlled ones shoudln't be allowed. They're E-Moto's. Not emtb's. 

I - too - like to spend the equivalent of a shuttle vehicle on one extra run.

Hackster

Mar 6, 2017, 11:06 AM

They allow my 75 year old mother-in-law to join me on the trails.

 

They allow my fat mate to get off the couch and keep up.

 

Paaaalease.... pull the other one.

 

The reality is this, e-bikes will get more and more powerful, someone will work out how to side step the pedal assist, and we'll land up sharing the trails with what are essentially electric MX bikes.

 

It's going to happen, and then what will happen is that venue owners will have to make a call on whether admit everyone or differentiate between leg power and battery power.

 

You as the consumer will then be able to choose who you want to share trails with.

 

I know where I'd be spending my money.

 

Because while many of you will be perfectly nice okes on an e-bike, there'll be a whole bunch of tjops who'll arrive on the scene who you most definitely won't want to be around.

 

And that's speaking as someone who used to mess around on MX bikes. They're flippin' fun but a completely different dynamic to the general MTB scene.

 

Having said this, I'm utterly and completely in favor of electric commuter machines.

Duane_Bosch

Mar 6, 2017, 11:09 AM

What this oke ^^^^^^^^^^ said. *1000

supertorro

Mar 6, 2017, 11:14 AM

I don't understand the particular problem so many folk seem to have with E-bikes. More people riding surely increases the viability for riding areas to be attractive business solutions? So what if the guy next to me is on an e-bike. Enjoy and see you later from some coffee/beer/pizza etc.

 

And if there are additional people needing/demanding/crying out for more trails and access would that not be harder to ignore by authorities/stake-holders/land-owners etc. I understand that there is some concern around the trails and damage done, but that can surely be managed.

 

What am I missing here? Whether guys are on pedal cycles/pedal assist/fully electric/fully petrol I don't really care. Share the trail, we can all have a laugh. Bit of mutual accommodation from all sides and everyone's' a winner winner.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 6, 2017, 11:24 AM

I - too - like to spend the equivalent of a shuttle vehicle on one extra run.

Yeah but I wouldn't consider one as an additional bike. I'm not in the world of being able to drop ~ 80k on a whim. 

 

If I were in the position of buying a new bike, I have to be honest and say that one of the Levos would be on my shortlist. I'd be silly to dismiss it out of hand. BUT. I wouldn't buy it just to get another lap... 

Cava

Mar 6, 2017, 11:46 AM

If you remove the physical strain out of cycling, it becomes less enjoyable, because you miss out on the endorphin rush. The addictive part of cycling, for me. 

 

So whilst it makes sense as a commuter option, I'm not convinced that it will last on the trails or ever be considered a part of the sport. At some point, you are going to look at the guys on the unassisted bikes and just feel a little inferior. Sure, it might be fun, but that's what they said about fat bikes as well. Cool if you have the spare cash to have one standing around, but do you want to do it every weekend? 

Hairy

Mar 6, 2017, 11:53 AM

I don't understand the particular problem so many folk seem to have with E-bikes. More people riding surely increases the viability for riding areas to be attractive business solutions? So what if the guy next to me is on an e-bike. Enjoy and see you later from some coffee/beer/pizza etc.

 

And if there are additional people needing/demanding/crying out for more trails and access would that not be harder to ignore by authorities/stake-holders/land-owners etc. I understand that there is some concern around the trails and damage done, but that can surely be managed.

 

What am I missing here? Whether guys are on pedal cycles/pedal assist/fully electric/fully petrol I don't really care. Share the trail, we can all have a laugh. Bit of mutual accommodation from all sides and everyone's' a winner winner.

a counter argument to the above, could be that having to manage / maintain the trails to suite the e-bikes would cost more, this extra cost would also have to be carried by the conventional cyclist?

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 6, 2017, 11:54 AM

If you remove the physical strain out of cycling, it becomes less enjoyable, because you miss out on the endorphin rush. The addictive part of cycling, for me. 

 

So whilst it makes sense as a commuter option, I'm not convinced that it will last on the trails or ever be considered a part of the sport. At some point, you are going to look at the guys on the unassisted bikes and just feel a little inferior. Sure, it might be fun, but that's what they said about fat bikes as well. Cool if you have the spare cash to have one standing around, but do you want to do it every weekend? 

What makes you think you're still not working on an e-Mtb? You may be able to go faster up the hills, and do more distance in the same time, but you've still got to pedal the thing.

 

For example - the Levo will only ever MATCH what you're putting into the pedalling. 100% assistance is just that - it matches what you put out. That's on the max setting. And it's 250w assistance. Take it from the people who ride the things - they still make you work!

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 6, 2017, 11:55 AM

a counter argument to the above, could be that having to manage / maintain the trails to suite the e-bikes would cost more, this extra cost would also have to be carried by the conventional cyclist?

No additional cost at this point. Not until they start wheelspinning out of corners. IMO the back brake brigade does far more damage to the trails than an e-bike with a responsible rider. 

Odinson

Mar 6, 2017, 11:55 AM

a counter argument to the above, could be that having to manage / maintain the trails to suite the e-bikes would cost more, this extra cost would also have to be carried by the conventional cyclist?

 

Nee.

 

Do some reading, dude.

 

 

Of course, we then reach the inevitable question of trail erosion. Some people have suggested that an e-bike may be less damaging to the trail, because the power is delivered more smoothly, eliminating some of the harsh acceleration that digs into the ground, but there is no evidence to support this right now, so let's consider this bull**** until someone proves it otherwise. However, any argument that e-bikes cause more trail damage is pretty much sewn up with IMBA's 2015 findings of their study on trail erosion: "Results from the field experiment show that, under this set of conditions, soil displacement and tread disturbance from Class1 eMTBs and traditional mountain bikes were not significantly different, and both were much less than those associated with a gasoline-powered motorcycle." And that is coming from IMBA, who have recently clubbed together and decided that e-bikes are a Bad Thing, so hardly a biased source.

 

Source: https://www.pinkbike.com/news/opinion-e-bikes-are-good-for-the-sport-2017.html

stringbean

Mar 6, 2017, 12:03 PM

You guys need to stop listening to the propaganda BS the big S company is feeding you.

gummibear

Mar 6, 2017, 12:04 PM

My 2c worth...

 

eBikes are great as commuters and bikes for unfit to get fitter faster.They shouldn't be allowed on trails though.

 

In the last while I've seen a growth in numbers of them on single tracks.These ebikes run 25-30km/h easily and they pass around other cyclists,runners and walkers.They also end up making there own paths in the forest.In some areas the single track is a mess from the extra areas that these bikes ride.They also hard on the tracks because of the power they push out on the corners and hills.

 

There have also been a few bad crashes over here with bikes and that adds to the cost of government to get a chopper out to airlift the injured riders.Had they been on normal mtb they would have been in the area they were with the bikes.

 

There are a few companies selling and fitting ebike dongles.....basically the same as chipping your car.They remap the power on the bikes.Some can run 80km/h with it fitted.

 

Anyone see the issues  that kind of speed can cause on trails where guys work hard to look after them.

Hairy

Mar 6, 2017, 12:06 PM

Nee .... dude, my comment was specifically aimed at that poster noting it was acceptable if there was an increase in maintenance, etc.

Hairy

Mar 6, 2017, 12:12 PM

My 2c worth...

 

eBikes are great as commuters and bikes for unfit to get fitter faster.They shouldn't be allowed on trails though.

 

In the last while I've seen a growth in numbers of them on single tracks.These ebikes run 25-30km/h easily and they pass around other cyclists,runners and walkers.They also end up making there own paths in the forest.In some areas the single track is a mess from the extra areas that these bikes ride.They also hard on the tracks because of the power they push out on the corners and hills.

 

There have also been a few bad crashes over here with bikes and that adds to the cost of government to get a chopper out to airlift the injured riders.Had they been on normal mtb they would have been in the area they were with the bikes.

 

There are a few companies selling and fitting ebike dongles.....basically the same as chipping your car.They remap the power on the bikes.Some can run 80km/h with it fitted.

 

Anyone see the issues  that kind of speed can cause on trails where guys work hard to look after them.

^^^^^^this is what I fear happening here ..... and let's be honest, there will always be guys upping the output of their motorbikes e-bikes for trail use.

 

as noted in my earlier post, I now know of three bikes that have been modified for more output.....to all three I have had critical statements face to face with them.

 

the one rider I do not believe will be a chop on the trails .... the other two ... well they are would be.

Skubarra

Mar 6, 2017, 12:22 PM

 

 

the one rider I do not believe will be a chop on the trails .... the other two ... well they are would be.

 

If you want to ban cycling equipment that enable people to be chops on trails you are going to have to ban all bicycles...

Hairy

Mar 6, 2017, 12:26 PM

If you want to ban cycling equipment that enable people to be chops on trails you are going to have to ban all bicycles...

No, you ban chops

 

The best thing about mankind is man, the worst thing about mankind is man. 

Skubarra

Mar 6, 2017, 12:30 PM

No, you ban chops

 

The best thing about mankind is man, the worst thing about mankind is man. 

 

Ok I agree, no point in blaming the e-bikes.

 

Don't see them being banned from the trails, we will just have to accept those things among us.

Mongoose!

Mar 6, 2017, 12:38 PM

...snip

 

There are a few companies selling and fitting ebike dongles.....basically the same as chipping your car.They remap the power on the bikes.Some can run 80km/h with it fitted.

 

... snip

 

wow :eek:

just what I need, but in a road bike version :ph34r:

NicoBoshoff

Mar 6, 2017, 12:43 PM

Yeah but I wouldn't consider one as an additional bike. I'm not in the world of being able to drop ~ 80k on a whim. 

 

If I were in the position of buying a new bike, I have to be honest and say that one of the Levos would be on my shortlist. I'd be silly to dismiss it out of hand. BUT. I wouldn't buy it just to get another lap... 

I also want a bike to take me further for those long rides.  Difference is that got me thinking my N+1 bike would be the new Spark or Anthem.  Not this crap.

Rocket-Boy

Mar 6, 2017, 12:57 PM

If I understand correctly / remember correctly, the stats you are pointing out was 52% e-bike sales and 48% conventional bike sales ......... but this was specifically for "general riding" bikes, or city bikes, and not MTB / trail riding bikes.

Yeah I would see the biggest appeal being for commuters.

I have very little interest in e-bikes because I like to suffer and feel like I have accomplished something. I wouldnt mind have something like a spez levo in my bike room though for the lazy days where I just want to be outdoors looking at the scenery.

Lance Cruz

Mar 6, 2017, 1:10 PM

I'm heartened by the robustness and quality of debate here. 

About trail wear, I highlighted this issue: 

"an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so."

About trail access, again, I think a point which is being ignored: 

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The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access."

And of course, this:

"
Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation."

Pedal assistance and open throttle. Two very different things. 

Oomkool

Mar 6, 2017, 1:32 PM

Ride one..you'll love it! Yes, they definitely don't belong in races or on Strava but if you're like me who rides for the pleasure  of riding and enjoys bombing down a hill but hate going up the hills then an e-bike is the perfect piece of equipment. I've seen a bunch of old ballies in their 60s and 70s on e-bikes having a jol. If it wasn't for the e-bikes they'd probably be sitting at home, watching golf on the TV. If you can afford one, get it! 

Dan Dob

Mar 6, 2017, 2:36 PM

Nice article Lance- and a subject I'm sick of speaking about (though it is interesting to debate where this is going to lead our pedalling world). One thing that hasn't come up yet is a big concern of mine. No E-bikes are coming out with a standardised battery fitment solution (ie the way it clips in/integrates into your bike). What happens to your E-bike when the batteries get better (smaller and lighter) and the clip-in system gets modified to suit? You may well not be able to get a battery in the future for your e-bike and it becomes a heavy hunk of junk :o A big cost to the future consumer and a bigger cost to the environment.

 

On a side note: I hear Nicolas Vouilloz is super amped on E-Bikes and they are starting to race them in an enduro type format but not only limited to the DH side. There are engine management skills and engine mods that can get these things up crazy inclines that can also be timed/judged. Trust the crazy French to adapt!

Blackheart

Mar 6, 2017, 2:40 PM

Nice article Lance- and a subject I'm sick of speaking about (though it is interesting to debate where this is going to lead our pedalling world). One thing that hasn't come up yet is a big concern of mine. No E-bikes are coming out with a standardised battery fitment solution (ie the way it clips in/integrates into your bike). What happens to your E-bike when the batteries get better (smaller and lighter) and the clip-in system gets modified to suit? You may well not be able to get a battery in the future for your e-bike and it becomes a heavy hunk of junk :o A big cost to the future consumer and a bigger cost to the environment.

 

On a side note: I hear Nicolas Vouilloz is super amped on E-Bikes and they are starting to race them in an enduro type format but not only limited to the DH side. There are engine management skills and engine mods that can get these things up crazy inclines that can also be timed/judged. Trust the crazy French to adapt!

This I like. An E-Bike only Megavalanche would be cool.

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