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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Tony datoy

Jun 13, 2018, 2:58 PM

So you are just using the power to compensate for the weight?

 

If so why dont you just get a lighter bike, as in one without an engine?

I've just sold my Pyga and I've still got my hardtail in the garage. The Levo is great fun and it's what I choose to ride.

Tony datoy

Jun 13, 2018, 3:11 PM

I don't buy that. I've spent many hours on an ebike now, and at 20% assistant I get to the top of Helderberg in 30mins with relative ease compared to 50mins on my normal bike going flat out... No setting on an ebike just compensates for weight.

It all depends on your age, weight and fitness level. My friend weighs 45kgs and she flys uphill on her pedelec, whereas it takes me much longer to get my 110kgs there. Basic physics.

Shebeen

Jun 13, 2018, 3:23 PM

Clutching at straws and flogging your own dead pony?

 

The fact is that the industry has attempted to make motorised bikes cool by calling them "E" . They are in reality, that is, plain English, Motor-bicycles. 

 

 

a)have you ridden and e-bike, and decided that they are just schmarketing and actually not that cool.

b)have you read your own signature recently?because this e-bike debate is VERY much like the wheelsize one...

 

There is no debate - ride what the **** you feel like... Skill and fitness trump wheel size 24/7.

 

 

ps. pretty cool that you got trump in your sig before admin banned the word!

Patchelicious

Jun 13, 2018, 3:28 PM

a)have you ridden and e-bike, and decided that they are just schmarketing and actually not that cool.

b)have you read your own signature recently?because this e-bike debate is VERY much like the wheelsize one...

 

There is no debate - ride what the **** you feel like... Skill and fitness trump wheel size 24/7.

 

 

ps. pretty cool that you got trump in your sig before admin banned the word!

eBike vs bicycle is not the same as 27.5 vs 29er

 

“Ride what you like, who cares. Race what is fair”

 

But that’s a *** argument.

Rigardt@Scott

Jun 13, 2018, 4:03 PM

It all depends on your age, weight and fitness level. My friend weighs 45kgs and she flys uphill on her pedelec, whereas it takes me much longer to get my 110kgs there. Basic physics.

I'm 100kg plus and unfit... I fly up no matter what the setting. I've got no issues with e-bikes - just dnt race them. I did a whole long essay post on my opinion a while back so I won't again. E-bikes are kief and fun and and... - but they have no place in a race with normal mtbs.

BigDL

Jun 13, 2018, 8:09 PM

After migrating from a Pyga OneTen to a Turbo Levo FSR 6 Fattie earlier this year I have been shown the middle finger more times than I care, which I don’t.

 

When people say ebike, they usually mean Pedelec. There are technical and legal differences between a pedelec and an ebike.

 

Pedelecs (pedal electric cycles) are cycles that assist the rider’s pedaling effort with a battery/ electric motor delivering up to 250 watts assisted power at a speed of up to 25 km/h. There are many other different types of electric bikes with different ways of activating the electric assist and they all fall outside of the definition of a pedelec.

 

Pedelec’s are designed to augment human power and not replace it. Assistance only comes on when you pedal and it makes pedaling easier. Assistance automatically turns off when you stop pedaling; there is simply no throttle present. These amazing bicycles use pedal assist which runs in the background delivering smooth assistance whilst cycling with the option of a little boost to get up a steep section of trail where challenged individuals would normally have to get off and push. This can be seen to be advantageous to the other cyclists as it mitigates bottlenecks.

 

You can adjust the level of assistance from no assistance to a great deal of assistance so don’t take it for granted that everyone on a pedelec is at full boost all the time; I spend most of the time at 20% which basically compensates for the additional weight.

 

At a certain speed assistance is cut out; 25 km/h is the limit. Most bicycle riders can reach speed higher than 25 km/h for a limited time without much effort.

 

The same people who pioneered mountain-biking in South Africa are now in their 50s and 60s, and we still like to ride our bikes. Pedelecs allows us to continue to do something that we’ve always loved to do despite the physical challenges that come with age; something that younger folks are not going to get. My pedelec will extend my mountain biking by another 15 years.

 

In my opinion the limited speed and power of pedelecs makes them okay to use on trails with other cyclists, however I do not agree with mixing then up with other cyclists in races unless they are grouped in a different class without interfering with the other cyclists on the race day.

And a few bucks on eBay gets you the ability to double that 25 km/h limit. Let’s not fool ourselves that the engines are somehow just compensating for the extra weight and age.

 

Four of my mates now have pedelecs or whatever. Three of them are my age, fit, strong, fast and skilful. All four have bypassed the limiters and go flying up hills at ridiculous speeds, to be fair to allow them to get more of the downhill runs in. I don’t ride with them anymore as I can’t even hope to try and stay anywhere near them.

 

None of them want to enter races, and all four of them see their ebikes for what they are - a means to get to the top of a hill in order to have fun going down. No Strava, just fun

 

 

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Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Jun 14, 2018, 6:38 AM

And a few bucks on eBay gets you the ability to double that 25 km/h limit. Let’s not fool ourselves that the engines are somehow just compensating for the extra weight and age.

 

Four of my mates now have pedelecs or whatever. Three of them are my age, fit, strong, fast and skilful. All four have bypassed the limiters and go flying up hills at ridiculous speeds, to be fair to allow them to get more of the downhill runs in. I don’t ride with them anymore as I can’t even hope to try and stay anywhere near them.

 

None of them want to enter races, and all four of them see their ebikes for what they are - a means to get to the top of a hill in order to have fun going down. No Strava, just fun

 

 

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Exactly what I'd do. Assistance for the ups, let gravity take over for the downs. 

Eldron

Jun 14, 2018, 7:34 AM

On a ride the other day I was reflecting on my anti e-bike stance so I asked myself a question - what would I do if I had an ebike for the weekend?

 

The answer:

On Saturday I would pop a set of aero wheels with road tyres onto my duallie and smash Wiggin's world hour record. He needed 430watts for the world hour record - add some watts on for the poor aerodynamics of an mtb and I reckon I would have to roll 500 watts for an hour. No worries! 250 from me and 250 from the bike - job done. Might as well have some fun though - dial up the wattage and bang 780 watts for an hour (250 from me and 530 from the bike). Job done without raising too much of a sweat...after all I'll need my energy for Sunday....

 

Sunday - pop on some lightweight wheels with road tyres then travel round France smashing every Pro record on every climb I can find. Given that world record holders are around 6.6watts/kg FT and Lance was rumoured to have hit 7 EPO powered watts per kg I'd have to be a little higher as I want to smash multiple records in a day. No worries! I'll make 250 (don't want to tire myself out too early) - the bike would make 530 (I'd charge between efforts) so that makes 780 watts for an hour. I weigh 85kg so my FT would be a comfy 9.17 watts/kg. Job done!

 

World hour record and a handful of ultimate KOMs in 2 days. Not bad for a middle aged wannabe racer on a dual suspended mountain bike. Pros - pah - they're soft.

SwissVan

Jun 14, 2018, 7:57 AM

On a ride the other day I was reflecting on my anti e-bike stance so I asked myself a question - what would I do if I had an ebike for the weekend?

 

The answer:

On Saturday I would pop a set of aero wheels with road tyres onto my duallie and smash Wiggin's world hour record. He needed 430watts for the world hour record - add some watts on for the poor aerodynamics of an mtb and I reckon I would have to roll 500 watts for an hour. No worries! 250 from me and 250 from the bike - job done. Might as well have some fun though - dial up the wattage and bang 780 watts for an hour (250 from me and 530 from the bike). Job done without raising too much of a sweat...after all I'll need my energy for Sunday....

 

Sunday - pop on some lightweight wheels with road tyres then travel round France smashing every Pro record on every climb I can find. Given that world record holders are around 6.6watts/kg FT and Lance was rumoured to have hit 7 EPO powered watts per kg I'd have to be a little higher as I want to smash multiple records in a day. No worries! I'll make 250 (don't want to tire myself out too early) - the bike would make 530 (I'd charge between efforts) so that makes 780 watts for an hour. I weigh 85kg so my FT would be a comfy 9.17 watts/kg. Job done!

 

World hour record and a handful of ultimate KOMs in 2 days. Not bad for a middle aged wannabe racer on a dual suspended mountain bike. Pros - pah - they're soft.

That LAnce rumour is utter BS

Headshot

Jun 14, 2018, 9:23 AM

a)have you ridden and e-bike, and decided that they are just schmarketing and actually not that cool.

b)have you read your own signature recently?because this e-bike debate is VERY much like the wheelsize one...

 

There is no debate - ride what the **** you feel like... Skill and fitness trump wheel size 24/7.

 

 

ps. pretty cool that you got trump in your sig before admin banned the word!

 

Actually, I have ridden a Levo. They are great. I love things with engines. I used to have a big fat 2 stroke MX bike and a road motor bike. I am even thinking of an eBike as a commuter one day. Or maybe I'll just buy a second hand street moto and have even more fun :-). 

 

The point I was trying to make is that for these things to sell, manufacturers have had to market them in a way that is both appealing and socially and environmentally acceptable. Its worked up to a point but in the USA they have already been banned from MTB trails in some areas. I am not sure exactly what the reasoning is behind that or whether this will be relaxed as they become more accepted over there. Imagine if they were called "MotorMTB's"? Would we be having this debate at all? 

 

I don't think this debate has anything in common with a wheel size debate. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that an eBike makes you faster up hill. And you'll probably also get down before the bike riding guy even if he has more skill than you because you feel fresh and made up millions of seconds on the uphill.   

 

I will adjust my signature if you like? How about...

 

"Ride what the **** you feel like but my 250w eBike will trump your skill, fitness and wheel size, 24/7" 

 

Yeah!

NicoBoshoff

Jun 14, 2018, 10:03 AM

So much rationalising on the eletric motor cycle (see that?) side.  If it's no big deal, just own it bro. It's almost like you're somewhat ashamed of it?

 

It's like this "buff guy who is natural > buff guy on juice but owns it > buff guy on roids and swears he's natural"  

 

I only have an issue with the last guy. 

 

Fact is the bike industry is running out of variations of the same product to sell and keep the wheels turning. Enter the marketing team to convince you that despite thousands of unfit, fat, old, injured people finding ways to get into the sport and improve themselves to levels where they can ride when and where they want for literally decades, THIS product will finally open the sport to them. 

 

Cool story.

Eldron

Jun 14, 2018, 11:16 AM

So much rationalising on the eletric motor cycle (see that?) side. If it's no big deal, just own it bro. It's almost like you're somewhat ashamed of it?

 

It's like this "buff guy who is natural > buff guy on juice but owns it > buff guy on roids and swears he's natural"

 

I only have an issue with the last guy.

 

Fact is the bike industry is running out of variations of the same product to sell and keep the wheels turning. Enter the marketing team to convince you that despite thousands of unfit, fat, old, injured people finding ways to get into the sport and improve themselves to levels where they can ride when and where they want for literally decades, THIS product will finally open the sport to them.

 

Cool story.

I do find that aspect of the discussion quite amusing - emotorbikers posting to tell us that emotorbikes don't really help that much and are comparable to "guys with 8kg super bikes" and that this discussion is similar to the wheel size debate.

 

Old commuters aside I don't recall seeing a single emotorbiker that looked remotely like they actually needed one.

 

My experience suggests most buyers are middle aged men who want to go faster with less effort. Knock yourselves out I say. Don't race them and everyone is happy (aside from the deserved scorn of course ????????).

Tony datoy

Jun 14, 2018, 1:12 PM

Now we are talking ebike https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/311452-1500w-72v-electric-bike-scooter-conversion-kit/

 

Maybe I should fit this to my Levo? (tongue and cheek) Turbo boost for the next race

Thor Buttox

Jun 14, 2018, 1:36 PM

I do find that aspect of the discussion quite amusing - emotorbikers posting to tell us that emotorbikes don't really help that much and are comparable to "guys with 8kg super bikes" and that this discussion is similar to the wheel size debate.

 

Old commuters aside I don't recall seeing a single emotorbiker that looked remotely like they actually needed one.

 

My experience suggests most buyers are middle aged men who want to go faster with less effort. Knock yourselves out I say. Don't race them and everyone is happy (aside from the deserved scorn of course ????????).

Maybe it's my Puritan upbringing or my competitive nature, but trying to go faster with less effort is like trying to find a g-spot with an uppercut. You might find what you're looking for but the achievement may not be appreciated.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Jun 14, 2018, 1:37 PM

Maybe it's my Puritan upbringing or my competitive nature, but trying to go faster with less effort is like trying to find a g-spot with an uppercut. You might find what you're looking for but the achievement may not be appreciated.

caution. May result in fisti(ng)cuffs. 

Eldron

Jun 14, 2018, 1:39 PM

Maybe it's my Puritan upbringing or my competitive nature, but trying to go faster with less effort is like trying to find a g-spot with an uppercut. You might find what you're looking for but the achievement may not be appreciated.

That is one of the most obtuse and accurate analogies I've read in a while! Bravo sir!

Eldron

Jun 14, 2018, 1:41 PM

Now we are talking ebike https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/311452-1500w-72v-electric-bike-scooter-conversion-kit/

 

Maybe I should fit this to my Levo? (tongue and cheek) Turbo boost for the next race

I've been toying with the idea of building an electric skate board that I can use on the bike lanes. 1500w may be a little over the top for that project though ????

EmptyB

Jun 14, 2018, 2:33 PM

caution. May result in fisti(ng)cuffs.

Sies...

Hairy

Jun 14, 2018, 2:52 PM

Sies...

it is called bachelor v.2 syndrome :P

shaper

Jun 14, 2018, 7:15 PM

Here is one ready to hit the trails https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/311964-custom-built-scott/

Escapee..

Jun 15, 2018, 6:36 AM

 

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NicoBoshoff

Jun 15, 2018, 8:10 AM

Maybe it's my Puritan upbringing or my competitive nature, but trying to go faster with less effort is like trying to find a g-spot with an uppercut. You might find what you're looking for but the achievement may not be appreciated.

Wait...that's NOT how you do it???? 

Chingy182

Jun 15, 2018, 9:37 AM

I saw it this morning.

I immediately thought if this qualifies as an E-Bike (Or Petrol bike for that matter).

Patchelicious

Jun 15, 2018, 9:56 AM

Can I ride the Sani2C on it?

Thor Buttox

Jun 15, 2018, 10:28 AM

Wait...that's NOT how you do it????

When someone asks you to give them a hand, rather just applaud politely.

 

From Trump's 'Book ov Etiket'

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