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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Eldron

Apr 26, 2018, 10:50 AM

I can only gather that you have never used one. Maximum speed on e bike or MTB will always be achieved going downhill, e bike are no faster than normal bike downhill. If you going to be riding outside your ability on a e-bike you are also going be doing the same on a normal bike, the only difference being that the e-bike is much safer than a normal bike because of the bigger tires and heavier weight.

I meant flats and ups. DH is mostly based on rider skill.

 

Heaven help the ebiker trying to use 250w on a DH!

 

Edit: Hold on - how is an ebike safer because it is heavier?

GP-EB

Apr 26, 2018, 10:51 AM

Saw the Scott ebikes at the lab yesterday, those things looked huge, would be a bit *** if you get a flat battery on the trails with these, looks proper heavy to ride with pap battery.

Perhaps thats why all those bullets were keeling over in the Netherlands.

They didn't keel over they are being run over by cars, normally at that age they would not be be on bikes, they would have been sitting in front of the telly waiting to die I'm not sure which is better. If you have grade 6 math's, you can work your ride out, so that your battery don't run out, it's simple watts in watts out with these bike's. 

GP-EB

Apr 26, 2018, 10:59 AM

If you are going to use your motorbike on the trail please don't use Strava (or at least hide your ride from the segment leaderboard).

There is a Strava category for e-bikes, why are there none for road bikes opposed to mountain bikes or for that matter bikes that cost over R 100 000.00 and under R 100 000.00 after all we know how much difference weight makes.

GP-EB

Apr 26, 2018, 11:04 AM

Still the biggest problem with this is ego. The ebiker who cannot resist the competition but who can't ccept that he is not a pure cyclist, and the pure cyclist who doesn't like the feeling of being passed by Uncle Bob if Uncle Bob is acting decently on the trails.

 

If both groups accepted that both have different uses and stuck within some logical behaviour all would be well.

 

But that's just happy thinking... Meanwhile I have strapped an outboard to a dugout and entered a local surfski race. Let's see what happens

I also dint like the rider on his full carbon 29er passing me on my 90tees chrome moly 26er but he chose to spend his money and I didn't. We all have choices in life.

Shebeen

Apr 26, 2018, 11:05 AM

eveytime i see this thread come up, i just want to come here and say

 

 

YES

Bateleur1

Apr 26, 2018, 12:34 PM

eveytime i see this thread come up, i just want to come here and say

 

 

YES

 

Everytime I see this thread I realise how easy people can complicate their lives with cr@p

Hairy

Apr 26, 2018, 12:38 PM

I also dint like the rider on his full carbon 29er passing me on my 90tees chrome moly 26er but he chose to spend his money and I didn't. We all have choices in life.

I have news for you .... you were on the nicer bike!

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Apr 26, 2018, 12:55 PM

Edit: Hold on - how is an ebike safer because it is heavier?

Not "safer" but more stable at speed and over the chunder.

Eddy Gordo

Apr 26, 2018, 1:04 PM

I wonder how easy it is to pick up and ebike after a fall!!

Hairy

Apr 26, 2018, 1:08 PM

I wonder how easy it is to pick up and ebike after a fall!!

NotSoBigBen

Apr 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

Not "safer" but more stable at speed and over the chunder.

'the chunder'? Man I'm getting old .....

 

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Mawbs

Apr 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

i only have one problem with ebikes....if he passes me on the way up the hill and then holds me up on the way down the single track trail ...then im pissed 

T-Bob

Apr 26, 2018, 2:03 PM

i only have one problem with ebikes....if he passes me on the way up the hill and then holds me up on the way down the single track trail ...then im pissed 

 

The couple I've seen / followed have been piloted by good riders and there was nothing slowing them down at all on the single track. Good riders ride good, bad riders ride bad what ever bike they are on. 

Robbie Stewart

Apr 26, 2018, 2:42 PM

watched a man kitted to the nines in his all-mountain gear descend the mineshaft at Meerendal on his e-bike (think it was Giant, but don't quote me on that).

So, he reaches that minute double before the new bit veering off to the left, where that minute gap is flowing into the berm/non-drop off/switchback bit.

Guy stops, rolls over the mini-double at crawling speed, chicken-run's the mini-gap, and walks the non-drop off, before crawling the rest of the bit to where I was waiting for my boet to finish fixing his tyre.

Finally, the dude reaches us, and nearly moers off as he navigates his way between us as we were standing either side of the ST. We were probably 2m apart at that stage...he then blasts of into the proverbial sunset on his steed, feeling all gung-ho on his mountain bike...

E-bikes. Gotta love the poser's...

SwissVan

Apr 26, 2018, 3:26 PM

'the chunder'? Man I'm getting old .....

 

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Despite my age, If I see some chunder (vomit) on the trail I will bunny hop (pronk) over it

ChrisF

Apr 27, 2018, 1:04 PM

.....

 

E-bikes. Gotta love the poser's...

 

Interesting post .....

 

Some may recall my posts about taking our little for skills training.  We have joined his couch on a number of rides since then.  On one particular ride there were a couple of families. 

 

One lady had not ridden a bike in about 20 years and were trying to get into it .... She happens to be a runner and had some seriously powerful legs and powered up the hills !!  Downhil she was super slow .... then the mini-burms from the pumptrack down to start.  She was going at less than walking pace !!!  To the point where she literally fell over in one of the turns.  I helped her up, gave some pointers and then followed her down, and kept on giving her pointers ... half way down she started relaxing a bit and managed to get from a crawling to a slow but steady pace.  A few more slow laps and she will be able to ride with her kids, and enjoy the trails as a family

 

There are MANY new riders at Meerendal !

 

Surely ill advised for a new rider to head on down to the mine-shaft though !  

 

But calling such new riders "posers" ..... maybe rather take a moment and assist them ?

 

 

 

reminds me of Sunday's ride with Maritz .... few months back I had to put my hand on his shoulder and help him up the steep hills.  Now he WANTS to ride up the steep hills, and he wants to do so without me helping him.  He may take a water-break halfway up, but no way may I assist !  And so we go from the pump track towards Dorstberg, up that first steep section, to join the contour line towards Burry Stander.  Obviously the last 40m is too steep for a 6 year old !  He gets off and pushes his bike up .... two riders encourage him ..... another takes a moment to tell me just how heavy a kids bike is and that I really should not let a kid struggle like that ...... meanwhile, Maritz is super stoked about having cycled the "old route" on his own and just how far he got on the new section under his own steam, wanting to go back to cycle even further ...... 

 

interesting how external perceptions often completely miss the reality of the situation.

Tony datoy

Apr 27, 2018, 7:06 PM

I was an ebike sceptic until Greg Minnar Cycles lent me a Levo for a weekend. Bike charged, I headed for the trails at first light on Saturday morning with a friend who already owned a Levo. What a blast, we rode every trail the bike park had to offer.

 

Two weeks later, I bought two Levo's; now my wife and I get to ride together at the same pace.

 

We're not in it to win it, we're not competing against fellow cyclists, we're just enjoying the great outdoors together.

 

If we're courteous to one another and we allow fellow cyclists who are trying to get KOM to pass, there is no reason that we can't enjoy the trails together. Ironically I have a few KOM's in the ebike category on Strava already.

 

In all honesty I haven't ridden my Pyga since getting a Levo, overall a Levo is a blast, it's just so much fun getting to the to of a mountain now.

 

If you can't afford a Levo, don't take one for a ride.

Bonus

Apr 27, 2018, 10:29 PM

I came flying down the hill from our village towards the end of last year and as I got near to the bottom, I saw two riders, a man and a woman, who'd just started the climb coming the other way. I thought I'd turn around and catch them going back up so I rolled for a bit, turned around and gave chase.

 

I assumed from the look of them that this wouldn't be too bigger problem to achieve. Turns out I assumed wrong. By the time I got to the outskirts of our village back at the top I still hadn't caught them. Finally saw them where they'd stopped to take photos of the view of the mountains!

 

I was broken and panting like a Labrador, they were on e-bikes and having a lovely day out :-)

ChrisF

Apr 28, 2018, 3:20 AM

I was an ebike sceptic until Greg Minnar Cycles lent me a Levo for a weekend. Bike charged, I headed for the trails at first light on Saturday morning with a friend who already owned a Levo. What a blast, we rode every trail the bike park had to offer.

 

Two weeks later, I bought two Levo's; now my wife and I get to ride together at the same pace.

 

We're not in it to win it, we're not competing against fellow cyclists, we're just enjoying the great outdoors together.

 

If we're courteous to one another and we allow fellow cyclists who are trying to get KOM to pass, there is no reason that we can't enjoy the trails together. Ironically I have a few KOM's in the ebike category on Strava already.

 

In all honesty I haven't ridden my Pyga since getting a Levo, overall a Levo is a blast, it's just so much fun getting to the to of a mountain now.

 

If you can't afford a Levo, don't take one for a ride.

 

after a couple of knee operations my wife dont cycle any more ....

 

I have offered to buy her an ebike, and would do so gladly if she ever decided to come ride with us !!!

GLuvsMtb

Apr 28, 2018, 12:38 PM

Still the biggest problem with this is ego. The ebiker who cannot resist the competition but who can't ccept that he is not a pure cyclist, and the pure cyclist who doesn't like the feeling of being passed by Uncle Bob if Uncle Bob is acting decently on the trails.

 

If both groups accepted that both have different uses and stuck within some logical behaviour all would be well.

 

But that's just happy thinking... Meanwhile I have strapped an outboard to a dugout and entered a local surfski race. Let's see what happens

How do you feel about Ski-lifts (on the Northern Hemisphere of course) and bakkie-shuttles (at home of course). Are those guys also not ‘pure cyclists’?

 

 

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GLuvsMtb

Apr 28, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Bonus

Apr 28, 2018, 1:22 PM

How do you feel about Ski-lifts (on the Northern Hemisphere of course) and bakkie-shuttles (at home of course). Are those guys also not ‘pure cyclists’?

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Aaah man! Don't get me started on those guys that come all the way to Ainsa to ride Zona Zero and then want lifts up to the top of all the hills . . .

 

;-)

Thor Buttox

Apr 28, 2018, 1:46 PM

How do you feel about Ski-lifts (on the Northern Hemisphere of course) and bakkie-shuttles (at home of course). Are those guys also not ‘pure cyclists’?

 

 

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You know that's a false equivalence, because downhill racing on real bikes is also a subset of the sport.

 

The 'purity' I spoke of was only meant in a competitive context - cycling has always been human-powered without mechanical/electric assistance, whether marathon or downhill after a skilift up.

 

In the same way, wrt my stupid outboard dugout joke is that one is paddling and the other boating. We just haven't separated them in our little world yet. To complete your skilift analogy as I intended, guys who drive with bike on their car to a race are pure cyclists, guys who drive with an ebike are competing in a race, and may be exerting themselves muchly, but they are not pure cyclists. IMHO in a competitive environment.

gadi-perl

Apr 28, 2018, 2:08 PM

Been watching this thread with some amusement...

 

Coming from a totally different sport, It amazes me how critical, judgemental and brassy cylists are compared to some other sports...

Baggies vs Lycra

Specialized vs other brands

29ers vs other sizes

blah blah blah etc

 

Ive started to enjoy the tech side of the sport, trying to understand bits and bobs of geometry of bikes, gear ratios, suspension etc

 

This e-bike debate is pointless and a waste of energy...

 

Ride what you want to ride

Dont ride what you dont want

 

ps the Specialized Levo i demo-ed recently thanks to the guys at Revolution Cycles was incredible, fun, and playful.. Got a great sweat, workout, and sure, lots of KOMS, and PBS, naturally.. which i then erased...

 

So get over yourself if you a) believe an E-bike is the same as a motorbike, and b) some dude beats you up the hill

Eldron

Apr 28, 2018, 2:34 PM

I thought we had solved this. No issues with Emotorbikes on the trails but they're a big no no in races ????

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