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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Bateleur1

Apr 24, 2018, 11:15 AM

We have some pretty powerful emotorbikes here in Denmark. I often dice old tannies on their eshopperbikes on my 24kg "dutch commuter". They normally win!

 

Humans are pretty pathetic compared to electric motors - it doesn't take much to get whipped by electricity.

 

That said - different story when I'm on my training bikes or racing bikes  :devil:

 

In Germany the normal ebikes are limited (by software) to max 250w and 25km/h.  When it hits that the rider must go over it with is own ability.  You can buy stronger / or setup stronger motors but then you need a little license for insurance purposes and the bike is actually classified as a light vehicle.

Eldron

Apr 24, 2018, 11:35 AM

In Germany the normal ebikes are limited (by software) to max 250w and 25km/h.  When it hits that the rider must go over it with is own ability.  You can buy stronger / or setup stronger motors but then you need a little license for insurance purposes and the bike is actually classified as a light vehicle.

 

Interesting... I guess similar rules apply here (EU and all that) but experience/dicing tannies has taught me otherwise**

 

**or maybe I am getting old!!!!

ChrisF

Apr 24, 2018, 4:37 PM

Been seeing more and more ebikes on our trails.

 

 

We sweat our way ou stairway-to-heaven .... lady on an ebike takes the shortcut and shoots up the vertical section, races past the point where we rest at the bench ..... 500m further she is standing next to her bike, doing her utmost best to ignore any and all asking her if she is okay ....  

 

In contrast we were a group of parents with primary school kids going along slowly .... elderly couple riding ebikes catch up to us, slows way down and we have a nice chat as we all hang back giving the kids space to ride their pace.  NICE couple !  Clearly having ebikes is opening a new world of opportunities for them, and still they are decent humans sharing the trails in a responsible way.

 

 

Day may well come when I buy an ebike ,,,,, until then happy being able to push my own limits under my own steam.

EugeneKemp35

Apr 25, 2018, 8:43 AM

Picture this: You're winching yourself up a jeep track on your rather heavy enduro bike when a sound catches your ear. Tyre noise. You don't turn your head but listen more closely and hear it approaching quicker than any bike could be. The tyre noise is a give away. Its a bakkie making its way up the track. You move to the left to give it space. As it passes you see the reality. A pair of Spaz ebikes with plus sized tyres hitting that hill at close to 3x your speed. True story.

As a matter of interest, how much faster than the e-bikes did you go down the mountain, I would hazard a guess 5x.  

EugeneKemp35

Apr 25, 2018, 8:44 AM

Been seeing more and more ebikes on our trails.

 

 

We sweat our way ou stairway-to-heaven .... lady on an ebike takes the shortcut and shoots up the vertical section, races past the point where we rest at the bench ..... 500m further she is standing next to her bike, doing her utmost best to ignore any and all asking her if she is okay ....  

 

In contrast we were a group of parents with primary school kids going along slowly .... elderly couple riding ebikes catch up to us, slows way down and we have a nice chat as we all hang back giving the kids space to ride their pace.  NICE couple !  Clearly having ebikes is opening a new world of opportunities for them, and still they are decent humans sharing the trails in a responsible way.

 

 

Day may well come when I buy an ebike ,,,,, until then happy being able to push my own limits under my own steam.

I sure you agree, an a-hole stays one irrespective what he or she rides.

Yo-Yo

Apr 25, 2018, 9:15 AM

Went for a spin in Tokai this evening and got lapped by a guy on a Spez' ebike. Had a coil shock on the back and Fox 36 up front. The way he shot up the climb from the bottom of vasbyt was pretty incredible. Honestly by the time I was peddling towards the bottom of AM he was just finishing that run. Had a chat to him briefly and he'd nailed a hell of a lot of loops already in a frankly tiny time on the mountain. Seems he came from a MX background so the weight and different feel was no big deal and seems the stably was incredible. 

 

It made me think different about their uses and not just for old guys who need a bit of help. It seems a good solution to get more rides in. I'm focused on going down mountains and to be honest I'm pretty 'meh' about the slog up to the trail head (heresy I know. Earn your downs blah, blah). If I can nail 3 or 4 sessions on a ride compared to the one loop under my own power then I'd put my hand up and say it's something i'd be interested. With more core brands now having a ebike in their line up and more development happening it's going to be pretty interesting in the next few years. 

It's a bike. With a battery. I can't see what people would be getting angry and indignant about. Ride what you ride. 

Patchelicious

Apr 25, 2018, 9:21 AM

Went for a spin in Tokai this evening and got lapped by a guy on a Spez' ebike. Had a coil shock on the back and Fox 36 up front. The way he shot up the climb from the bottom of vasbyt was pretty incredible. Honestly by the time I was peddling towards the bottom of AM he was just finishing that run. Had a chat to him briefly and he'd nailed a hell of a lot of loops already in a frankly tiny time on the mountain. Seems he came from a MX background so the weight and different feel was no big deal and seems the stably was incredible. 

 

It made me think different about their uses and not just for old guys who need a bit of help. It seems a good solution to get more rides in. I'm focused on going down mountains and to be honest I'm pretty 'meh' about the slog up to the trail head (heresy I know. Earn your downs blah, blah). If I can nail 3 or 4 sessions on a ride compared to the one loop under my own power then I'd put my hand up and say it's something i'd be interested. With more core brands now having a ebike in their line up and more development happening it's going to be pretty interesting in the next few years. 

 

It's a bike. With a battery. I can't see what people would be getting angry and indignant about. Ride what you ride.

 

Read the thread. Very few people are angry about them being on the trails, its makes sense for them to be used. But not in same racing categories as regular bikes.

Yo-Yo

Apr 25, 2018, 11:02 AM

Read the thread. Very few people are angry about them being on the trails, its makes sense for them to be used. But not in same racing categories as regular bikes.

 

I have and that comment at the very bottom was to do with some other conversation I've over heard from riders in Tokai, TB and others. Not specifically centred on comments in this thread and the comments in it. I have also seen a quite a few comments on other threads raising concerns about being used on Single Track and objections around that. 

 

As for this thread there are a few objectors in the 36 pages even as early as t page 1 with Mr Booth. 

Eldron

Apr 25, 2018, 11:22 AM

I have and that comment at the very bottom was to do with some other conversation I've over heard from riders in Tokai, TB and others. Not specifically centred on comments in this thread and the comments in it. I have also seen a quite a few comments on other threads raising concerns about being used on Single Track and objections around that.

 

As for this thread there are a few objectors in the 36 pages even as early as t page 1 with Mr Booth.

Small correction - they're bikes with a battery....and a motor. Motor plus bike equals motorbike!

 

Like the others said - no issues with them on the trails as long as theyre piloted by decent human beings.

 

They will be judged harshly by myself of course (unless they're being used for age or medical reasons).

T-Bob

Apr 25, 2018, 5:57 PM

Death machines I tell you!

lechatnoir

Apr 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

Small correction - they're bikes with a battery....and a motor. Motor plus bike equals motorbike!

 

pedal-assist <> internal combustion 

 

Like the others said - no issues with them on the trails as long as theyre piloted by decent human beings.

 

so... like all bikes then?

 

They will be judged harshly by myself of course (unless they're being used for age or medical reasons).

 

and quite right you are... luckily, I don't seem to need one. yet... 

Eldron

Apr 25, 2018, 6:43 PM

 

Small correction - they're bikes with a battery....and a motor. Motor plus bike equals motorbike!

 

pedal-assist <> internal combustion

 

Like the others said - no issues with them on the trails as long as theyre piloted by decent human beings.

 

so... like all bikes then?

 

They will be judged harshly by myself of course (unless they're being used for age or medical reasons).

 

and quite right you are... luckily, I don't seem to need one. yet...

Sure but emotorbatterybikes have the ability to go fast beyond human only bikes so the riders will need to be a little extra careful.

Maila

Apr 25, 2018, 7:44 PM

If you are going to use your motorbike on the trail please don't use Strava (or at least hide your ride from the segment leaderboard).

Eldron

Apr 25, 2018, 8:00 PM

Random info. Most of the Spesh and Cube ebikes make about 250w from the motor. Im guessing thats around the same as most people's average power. So for limited periods ebikes riders can go double the speed of us normals. That's a decent amount!

Thor Buttox

Apr 25, 2018, 9:11 PM

Still the biggest problem with this is ego. The ebiker who cannot resist the competition but who can't ccept that he is not a pure cyclist, and the pure cyclist who doesn't like the feeling of being passed by Uncle Bob if Uncle Bob is acting decently on the trails.

 

If both groups accepted that both have different uses and stuck within some logical behaviour all would be well.

 

But that's just happy thinking... Meanwhile I have strapped an outboard to a dugout and entered a local surfski race. Let's see what happens

V18

Apr 26, 2018, 1:41 AM

Profound

Knersboy

Apr 26, 2018, 5:48 AM

I can just picture those old ballies moering it on their e-bikes, reliving the speed of their youth. Not a bad way to go.

Eldron

Apr 26, 2018, 5:53 AM

I can just picture those old ballies moering it on their e-bikes, reliving the speed of their youth. Not a bad way to go.

Only the death rate amongst men went up. Says something about us right? :-) We just can't help hitting the go faster button!

T-Bob

Apr 26, 2018, 6:54 AM

Only the death rate amongst men went up. Says something about us right? :-) We just can't help hitting the go faster button!

 

 

Fark! Maybe that's it. If your Mrs gives you a nice new ebike and tell you to go enjoy yourself she might actually be eyeing out the life insurance and a new start with Sven the pool boy! 

T-Bob

Apr 26, 2018, 8:27 AM

Commie Meta Power 29'r

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Coolspin

Apr 26, 2018, 8:43 AM

Death machines I tell you!

Judging by the age of the riders, most of the deaths were likely from natural causes, they just happened to be riding their ebikes at the time, Lol

Coolspin

Apr 26, 2018, 8:46 AM

Saw the Scott ebikes at the lab yesterday, those things looked huge, would be a bit *** if you get a flat battery on the trails with these, looks proper heavy to ride with pap battery.

Perhaps thats why all those bullets were keeling over in the Netherlands.

lechatnoir

Apr 26, 2018, 8:58 AM

Sure but emotorbatterybikes have the ability to go fast beyond human only bikes so the riders will need to be a little extra careful.

 

but that's why we have Youtube... isn't it?

GP-EB

Apr 26, 2018, 10:42 AM

Sure but emotorbatterybikes have the ability to go fast beyond human only bikes so the riders will need to be a little extra careful.

I can only gather that you have never used one. Maximum speed on e bike or  MTB will always be achieved going downhill, e bike are no faster than normal bike downhill. If you going to be riding outside your ability on a e-bike you are also going be doing the same on a normal bike, the only difference being that the e-bike is much safer than a normal bike because of the bigger tires and heavier weight.

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