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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

gummibear

Mar 21, 2017, 4:59 PM

No. Throttle, doesn't require pedal input, 6kw motor.

That's what i thought but still has option to pedal.

 

Classed as an enduro bike in their catalogue :eek:

Mamil

Mar 21, 2017, 5:50 PM

I'd be interested to hear from the guy who rides behind the lead group in the epic how he finds it.

Joeboy69

Mar 21, 2017, 6:23 PM

I'd be interested to hear from the guy who rides behind the lead group in the epic how he finds it.

Think that is Stefan Sahm, so he will be able to speak with authority!

gummibear

Mar 21, 2017, 6:51 PM

Think that is Stefan Sahm, so he will be able to speak with authority!

Yeah it is.

 

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and Tom Dietsch

 

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Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 22, 2017, 7:45 AM

That's what i thought but still has option to pedal.

 

Classed as an enduro bike in their catalogue :eek:

Har har har... 

 

Yeah, that's about as Enduro as a 50cc engine. 

BigDL

Mar 22, 2017, 11:11 AM

That is an electric motorbike - end of. The problems will maybe start when guys start injuring themselves on MTB trails at 60km/h

 

 

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LongDonkey

Mar 22, 2017, 11:30 AM

As for the injuries thing cos its too powerful and numpties dont know what they are doing or get smart, i say "Stupid should hurt..... more!"

 

In general i recon if you are respectful, go for it. 

Skinnyone

Mar 22, 2017, 11:37 AM

Those will never happen, glasses take too long and needs a very specific focus point. Alu dont spark and carbon cracks.

There was a fire started a number of years bag at the Rooioberg race due to a pedal strike on a rock....

stefmeister

Mar 22, 2017, 11:42 AM

This has a 6000 watt motor.Can accelerate at the same pace as GTI Golf to 80km/h.

 

Runs 90min at 45km/h or 40min at 60km/h or 30min at 80km/h.

 

Should this be on the trails?

 

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Chain stays are obviously too long.  :ph34r:

Hairy

Mar 22, 2017, 11:54 AM

Chain stays are obviously too long.  :ph34r:

they have to be that long to accommodate the kick stand  :ph34r:

Karakoram

Apr 7, 2017, 6:25 AM

If a trail system is affiliated to IMBA, this should be noted:


 


IMBA believes all recreational uses of public lands should be managed on an individual use and trail-by-trail basis through the diligent application of benefits based management, preferred use and environmental impact assessment. These land management principles work together to give people the outdoor experiences they seek in a way that mitigates the effects associated with their use so that future generations can enjoy similar experiences.


 


FAQ


Q: Is IMBA for or against motorized recreation?


 


A: Neither, IMBA is an advocate for the interests of mountain biking and the development and maintenance of single-track trails.


 


IMBA objects to land management practices and principles that address mountain biking and motorized uses as a single class. Mountain biking involves a spectrum of riding styles with a narrow band of environmental impacts that are similar to hiking and equestrian uses. When classification is necessary, mountain biking should be part of the non-motorized class.


 


Q: How does IMBA view electric assist and electric bicycles (e-Bikes)?


 


A: Electric bicycles are a welcome addition to the cycling community. They allow for carrying heavy loads and offer assistance to those who could not otherwise experience much of the fun of cycling and add a de minimus amount of additional impact. However, the use of a motor whether internal combustion or electric would require changing the classification to a motorized use. IMBA would support the use of e-Bikes anywhere that we could also support other motorized uses.


 


source: http://dirtragmag.com/ebikes/

s14phoenix

May 19, 2017, 2:48 PM

why do you not just motocross or dirtbike. cycling is for those that power themselves

 

e-bikes are for wannabees and tv coverage of the pros.

Eldron

May 19, 2017, 4:02 PM

I saw an e-bike being washed at the Croc2croc... Not sure if it actually raced or not but what is an e-bike doing at a race?

 

Cheating! That's what it's doing!

ChrisF

May 19, 2017, 6:38 PM

And then you read the article that is curretly front page on the Hub - of the Sani2C photographer on the eBike ....

 

 

 

Maybe one day we will have an eBike class ??

 

 

I currently ride SHORT distance .. all my bust knees can do.  Only a few years and the little one will be too fast for me, and wanting longer distances .....  I may well then get an eBike to ride with him .....  NO transponder, no bragging rights for time or position, purely to get the best out of our time together.

 

 

 

For those that dont have shower facilities at work .... light cycle to work, with plenty electrical assistance, then a harder cycle in the afternoon .....

 

 

 

Should these bikes "compete" with standard bikes - heck NO !!  But there certainly are many out there that can actually get some real use out of this new technology ......

 

 

see THIS is what happens when you visit a Specialized store .. they warp your brain ...  :devil:   :devil:

ChrisF

May 26, 2017, 4:57 PM

And yet another offering :

https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/gear/gear-news/rocky-mountain-introduce-the-altitude-powerplay-e-bike-r6586?source=sidebar

 

Looks NICE !!

 

So now there are four motor types :

- Shimano

- Bosch

- Yamaha

- Rocky Mountain (they claim this is their own design, and according to the reports works differently to others).

 

 

 

 

Seems the lessons of the PV solar game is filtering down to these bikes as well.

 

 

Going from 36 to 48V means lower current draw, less losses, less heat generated.

 

But they conveniently provide "W.h" figures where the rest provide "A.h" figures, so not easy to do a paper comparison

 

 

With the high sales figures of eBikes in Europe this may well see an explosion in design technology for the next few years .... GOOD !

Hairy

May 28, 2017, 3:57 AM

And yet another offering :

https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/gear/gear-news/rocky-mountain-introduce-the-altitude-powerplay-e-bike-r6586?source=sidebar

 

Looks NICE !!

 

So now there are four motor types :

- Shimano

- Bosch

- Yamaha

- Rocky Mountain (they claim this is their own design, and according to the reports works differently to others).

 

 

 

 

Seems the lessons of the PV solar game is filtering down to these bikes as well.

 

 

Going from 36 to 48V means lower current draw, less losses, less heat generated.

 

But they conveniently provide "W.h" figures where the rest provide "A.h" figures, so not easy to do a paper comparison

 

 

With the high sales figures of eBikes in Europe this may well see an explosion in design technology for the next few years .... GOOD !

Not being funny here, but I recon those guys in white coats with pocket protectors in their pockets, are watching and using e-bikes as a development platform for motorbikes, who in turn are being watched by the white coats watching motorbikes in order to develop and carry over tech to electric cars.

 

now if we can get reliable transport devices (e-bike, bikes, cars, whatever's) that will be running on clean or cleaner power from alternative power sources to the typical coal or nuclear stations, then the world will be an exciting place......well I hope a less polluted place at lease.

ChrisF

May 28, 2017, 5:52 AM

 

NICE :)

 

we certainly are living in interesting times ....

Eddy Gordo

May 28, 2017, 6:53 AM

Not being funny here, but I recon those guys in white coats with pocket protectors in their pockets, are watching and using e-bikes as a development platform for motorbikes, who in turn are being watched by the white coats watching motorbikes in order to develop and carry over tech to electric cars.

 

now if we can get reliable transport devices (e-bike, bikes, cars, whatever's) that will be running on clean or cleaner power from alternative power sources to the typical coal or nuclear stations, then the world will be an exciting place......well I hope a less polluted place at lease.

Well I am seriously getting gatvol of traffic. Need to work out a way to afford an ebike or electric motorbike. 

Does anyone know about services on these electric bikes?

AllAboutRides

Jun 4, 2017, 8:40 PM

Just jumping in here as I just found this thread.....

 

There is a difference between an ebike and a peddal assist bike, Levo's from Specialized are called pedal assist bikes.... you only get out what you put in....and believe me you still get a proper workout riding these bikes.

 

There will be haters and there will be people riding them.....just don't understand why everyone have a problem with these bikes, especially the strava junkies!!!!

Bateleur1

Jun 21, 2017, 9:25 AM

And on a sidenote I found this interresting article in a magazine here in Germany.  The ADAC (the German version of the AA-Automobile Association) launched a pilot project in Berlin and Stuttgard beginning of 2016.  They used e-bikes with a trailer to get to stranded motorists in urban areas quicker.  

 

 

I take it that they have had quite a bit of success with it as they now launched a similar project in Cologne with this customised e-bike as there has been some challanges with the trailer concept. It turned out that a stock standard e-bike with the trailer and all the tools was pushing the limits of the e-bike.  This customised version should deal with this problem.  Sorry for the bad quality photo.

 

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Rocket-Boy

Jun 21, 2017, 9:32 AM

And on a sidenote I found this interresting article in a magazine here in Germany.  The ADAC (the German version of the AA-Automobile Association) launched a pilot project in Berlin and Stuttgard beginning of 2016.  They used e-bikes with a trailer to get to stranded motorists in urban areas quicker.  

 

 

I take it that they have had quite a bit of success with it as they now launched a similar project in Cologne with this customised e-bike as there has been some challanges with the trailer concept. It turned out that a stock standard e-bike with the trailer and all the tools was pushing the limits of the e-bike.  This customised version should deal with this problem.  Sorry for the bad quality photo.

 

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The clever things you can do when you dont need to worry about all the kit being stolen!

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Jun 21, 2017, 9:36 AM

The clever things you can do when you dont need to worry about all the kit being stolen!

oh, you'd be surprised.... 

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