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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Eddy Gordo

Mar 8, 2017, 7:25 AM

With this...

:drool:

Yes, they do belong on them mountains

 

 

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I see this is the common shape of ebikes.

 

However

this one :drool:  :drool:

 

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Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 7:28 AM

IMO the Rotwild, Levo & Scott are the best looking iterations. 

 

New-Scott-E-Spark-700-Plus-TUNED-2017-ElAnd then the Orange. Based on the Alpine 160. Which, for me, sounds WONDERFUL!

 

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Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 7:30 AM

One word. FUGLY.

 

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And a MUCH better version from Giant for 2017. The first one was fuuuuuuuuugly.

 

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stringbean

Mar 8, 2017, 7:37 AM

Just wondering how these bikes are regulated on the trails.Im sure that plays a role where in some countries they ok,others they allowed on their own trails and some places they banned.

For marshals and trail builders it's hard enough controlling rouge riders.Now you have to worry is that bike pedal assist,full on electric or close to motor bike.Then do you say only the specialized version is ok but the giant bike is not etc.

And what if the bikes can switch between modes from pedal assist to full on motorbike?

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 7:42 AM

Just wondering how these bikes are regulated on the trails.Im sure that plays a role where in some countries they ok,others they allowed on their own trails and some places they banned.

For marshals and trail builders it's hard enough controlling rouge riders.Now you have to worry is that bike pedal assist,full on electric or close to motor bike.They do you say only the specialized version is ok but the giant bike is not etc.

And what if the bikes can switch between modes from pedal assist to full on motorbike?

That would be a problem, and one that the manufacturers (Giant / spaz / scott etc) woudn't want to encounter as it would endanger not only access, but sales, as they'd no longer be classified as e-mtbs. They'd be categorised as motorbikes. 

 

Regulation on the trails should be (IMO) as per the regulations on e-MTB's. IE within the EU / US max speed / power ratings and with pedal assist only. As soon as it goes outside of pedal assist, it's no longer an e-MTB, and if they started making them that way, they'd not be able to cater to the MTB user group. Taxes & licenses would start being required to ride them in the areas they're being sold. And then as they're a licensed "motorbike" they wouldn't be allowed on trails. 

 

So ja, it's a problem - IF it goes that way. But IMO it won't, as they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. 

 

If the EU & US legislation changes, though... 

Eugene Oppelt

Mar 8, 2017, 7:44 AM

 

With this...

:drool:

Yes, they do belong on them mountains

 

 

http://14761-presscdn-0-15.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/06/Cannondale-Moterra-First-Look-1-1140x760.jpg

 

I see this is the common shape of ebikes.

 

However

this one :drool:  :drool:

 

Rotwild R.X+ FS 27.5 EVOhttp://14761-presscdn-0-15.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/11/Rotwild-R.X-FS-27.5-Evo-5-von-11-1-810x540.jpg

 

 

 

Yeah, that bottom one look much better integrated design-wise

Sweet

stringbean

Mar 8, 2017, 7:50 AM

They might all come out governed to max speed but that is easily changed.my mates who are riding them( thru working at a shop or been ambassadors ) are all been de-restricted and believe me those things fly

stringbean

Mar 8, 2017, 7:52 AM

At my lbs at the moment whenever the is a potential sale of a ebike the FIRST question customers ask is "will you un- restrict it for me if I buy one"

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 7:54 AM

At my lbs at the moment whenever the is a potential sale of a ebike the FIRST question customers ask is "will you un- restrict it for me if I buy one"

yeah IMO that's just silly. 

Napalm

Mar 8, 2017, 7:54 AM

Did you take it for a spin on the trails, or just in the parking lot? VERY different when riding on a trail. And no, the scott / spaz / giant e-mtb's do not "rip up the trail". Yes, you can accelerate faster, but they do no more damage to the trails. 

 

They do not rip up the trails, but by virtue of the average person being able to ride longer and further than they would on a normal bike, they do damage a trail more.

stringbean

Mar 8, 2017, 8:07 AM

I also don't agree with the "let's get fat handicapped people out on the trail mentality"

Is it really wise that my 70 year old dodgy heart diabetic spinal fusion couch potato grandpa can now get to countermand black downhill?

Mamil

Mar 8, 2017, 8:10 AM

Just around the block and up onto a bumpy pavement. I could feel that it would be a LOT easier on the trail than my Merida - just a revolution of the pedal and the bike just eats up the bumps.

 

It's heavier, can ride more and further, faster ... just seems logical to me it would put more wear and tear on the trail.

 

Felt like Nino Schurter when I got back to the shop ....

 

 

 

Did you take it for a spin on the trails, or just in the parking lot? VERY different when riding on a trail. And no, the scott / spaz / giant e-mtb's do not "rip up the trail". Yes, you can accelerate faster, but they do no more damage to the trails. 

Hairy

Mar 8, 2017, 8:12 AM

I was prejudiced against E-bikes on the trails, till I met a gentleman, who has serious health issues on the Berg'nBush. He was riding an E-bike. He started in my batch (by no friggen means in contention for a podium, robbing no-one-that-cares of a GC position.)

 

So, for a person, with limited lifespan, facing serious health issues to be able to share in the joy that this sport is supposed to be, to get out on the trails hand have some fun, share in the banter and enjoy the great vista's we experience...I have no issue with that.

 

From a marketing perspective, this makes fark-all sense, who would want to make and sell 10 E-bikes a year, for the odd impaired person?

 

Other than the impairment factor I see no other valid reason for E-bikes to be out on the trails. Do I hate them? Probably not, unless it increases doucchery in equal amounts the battery assists you to get up the hill.

This guy does ok ... sure he is riding street, but there is also that guy that rides the epic....

WH's post RE his wife with diabetes .... I would 100% support the use here.

 

I don't think they allow it at all. I think it's a workaround within the controller itself where you spoof it to send more current to the motor and remove the limiter. Could be wrong, but htat's what I suspect is happening. Not that they condone it, per se. 

 

Like putting a different map on your ECU, essentially. 

you simply change the wheelsize on the onboard computer to speed it up ... then there are dedicated sites that will assist you. For the Levo, there is a German site that will pimp your ride with a override .....

 

With this...

:drool:

Yes, they do belong on them mountains

 

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Fugly......funny thing is that many a year ago, Cannondale tried to get into the motorbike market, unfortunately this was a disaster for the company.

 

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Did you take it for a spin on the trails, or just in the parking lot? VERY different when riding on a trail. And no, the scott / spaz / giant e-mtb's do not "rip up the trail". Yes, you can accelerate faster, but they do no more damage to the trails. 

Have you taken one for a ride?

 

I have one lined up in the near future to experiment with.

Odinson

Mar 8, 2017, 8:28 AM

It is irrelevant whether or not I ride one. That is not the debate. The debate is around access to the same areas motorbikes are banned but bicycles are allowed.

 

Oh, and the stealing of strava KOMs.

 

Seriously? You're like a person who sees an article on social media, doesn't read it, but dives into the comment section arse first to give his uniformed opinion.

 

If you actually ride an e-MTB you will see and understand that it isn't the threat to the trails that you think it is.

 

You're poorly informed, but want to take a hard stance on this subject.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 8:33 AM

They do not rip up the trails, but by virtue of the average person being able to ride longer and further than they would on a normal bike, they do damage a trail more.

Like a fit bloke being able to do more damage than a noob by virtue of riding further?

NicoBoshoff

Mar 8, 2017, 8:45 AM

As soon as I win the lotto I'm going to turn our local park into the best in the country. And then install EMP devices at the trailhead.

Come at me bro.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 8:50 AM

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Eddy Gordo

Mar 8, 2017, 9:19 AM

As soon as I win the lotto I'm going to turn our local park into the best in the country. And then install EMP devices at the trailhead.

Come at me bro.

Would that turn it into a ball of flames? possibly burning down the trails.

 

What if there is a faulty ebike on a trail and there is some sort of short causing a fire.

Odinson

Mar 8, 2017, 9:34 AM

Would that turn it into a ball of flames? possibly burning down the trails.

 

What if there is a faulty ebike on a trail and there is some sort of short causing a fire.

 

What if an old-timer is having a breather next to the trail, takes off his glasses, the glasses focusses the sun rays into a hot beam and starts a fire.

 

What if a rider falls and a metal piece from his bike scratches a rock, creates a quick spark and starts a fire.

 

What if...

 

What if...

 

What if...

i24

Mar 8, 2017, 9:35 AM

By the time Tokai is fully open and functional, I will probably need and e-bike to get to the top of the mountain. But then I will be able to pass all of you on the way up, and come down the single track very cautiously, sorry if you have have to wait for me...

 

But seriously this all comes down to "Environmental Impact". Bicycles, by their nature, have a finite impact on the environment. They are "eco friendly" and "healthy" so they score good points in political correctness. This is the platform that has been leveraged to get us access to the likes of Tokai and Jonkershoek. If you allow bikes with engines onto the mountain, there will be more of them and they will go further and faster. Net result is a bigger "impact" and a total neutralization of the brownie points.

 

"But they are not motor bikes, you still have to pedal". The current batch of e-bikes weigh in at about 22kg. If you pushed that up to say 30kg you would have to much less pedalling. And even a bright high school student could implement a modification like this. Already we have conflicting standards in Europe and the USA and effectively none at all in South Africa. E-bikes ARE motorbikes! It is just that, for moment, their weight and power are modest enough to not attract too much attention. But it is just a matter of time before the total wattage of all the e-bikes out on the trails over weekends becomes a problem.

 

"But they will allow the old and the injured to access the mountain". Speaking as one who already feels challenged accessing some of the available trails, we have to accept that we can get our thrills on the lower easier slopes.

 

Have a quiet chat to the guys who have had to negotiate with the likes of SANPark for access for MTB's and ask them what the reaction will be when the mountain bosses apply their minds to e-bikes.

 

The industry should take the lead in this and ensure that all e-bikes are painted with yellow and black stripes, or marked with other means of clear means of identification and tagged with their power rating. Then the sporting administrators and cycling interest groups, like Cycling SA, Amarider and Pedal Power Association,  should agree on a policy, "E-bikes are banned from mountains and trails until specific permission is obtained from the land owner/manager for each trail. Such permission should clearly specify the terms of access, such as permitted power ratings and concessions for handicapped or elderly riders."

Eddy Gordo

Mar 8, 2017, 10:12 AM

What if an old-timer is having a breather next to the trail, takes off his glasses, the glasses focusses the sun rays into a hot beam and starts a fire.

 

What if a rider falls and a metal piece from his bike scratches a rock, creates a quick spark and starts a fire.

 

What if...

 

What if...

 

What if...

Those will never happen, glasses take too long and needs a very specific focus point. Alu dont spark and carbon cracks.

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 11:01 AM

 

 

Have a quiet chat to the guys who have had to negotiate with the likes of SANPark for access for MTB's and ask them what the reaction will be when the mountain bosses apply their minds to e-bikes.

 

 

You've already had his input. They don't care about ebikes. They care about motorbikes. There's a difference in the implementation, power,usage, licensing and classification. 

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 11:39 AM

Here's another of Wayne's videos. Note the way there's almost NO pedalling on the way down, therefore zero motor input. Also note his comments on the climbs...

 

Jewbacca

Mar 8, 2017, 11:41 AM

Can I drive my e-car on the beach? If guys are riding fat bikes and using kite cars, surely my e-car can go there too?

 

 

Eish... The line has to be drawn somewhere. Especially on shared trails. Those dogs and their walkers skrik hard when you ride really slowly anywhere near them.

 

I don't have an issue with e-bikes, but as with everything, the finger becomes an arm and we are back to square one in no time.

 

In an ideal world photographers and guys checking route markings for events etc should be able to make use of these things in a controlled environment. But having people willy nilly turn up at every trail head with heaven knows what mods is just impossible to manage.

 

The line in the sand needs to be drawn and, well, defining what/how/who where is impossible should 'standards' need to be regulated.

 

If you're old or injured, learn how to surf or do something else rad. That reasoning holds no sway unless you are impatient and entitled...  :ph34r:

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 8, 2017, 11:54 AM

And for comparison, his take n the Ibis Mojo 3. 

 

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