David George reduction in sanction

Where? I would like to see what the fuss is about. I see you can buy it from Canada, but its 1200 dollars for 12 syringes!!

Hahaha you want me to get banned here?

Ok is a relative thing. I won't support Nolan because of his doping history - I won't support David or Brandon either. If I was a team owner I would not employ any of them.

 

So in your eyes should all ex dopers be welcomed back into racing with open arms once they've completed their sentence? Regardless of drug choice and number of busts?

 

In your eyes should ALL drugs carry the same sentence?

Not what I said...but what you said...

Not what I said...but what you said...

Whaaat? I said different drugs = different sanctions. Whats your take or is it easier to ask the questions than answer them?

David took EPO for proper cheating, just like Lance.

Brandon took testosterone for a piel styf, maybe the same reason as Nolan Hoffman

Dude - Nolan is a sprinter - like Cipo - those okes are hard as rock and get all the chicks

Nolan Hoffman to his coach "does my bum look big in these pants?"

No love lost between DG and local pro's

https://twitter.com/JarrydHaley/status/511810942104260608

Kevin is not teaming up with DG. And DG is eligible for Epic because he got his ban prior to the Epic changing the rules.

No love lost between DG and local pro's

 

https://twitter.com/JarrydHaley/status/511810942104260608

Never thought that that would change

Honestly, I feel so desensitized about pro's doping I don't even care anymore. It's a sad state to be in, but honestly, do we really think the pro's that aren't banned are clean? A lot are, a LOT haven't been caught. NH, DG, LA and all the rest are very talented cyclists that made bad calls in a worse environment. Losing to someone who dopes shouldn't be a reason to dope, but honestly, given the circumstances I can't say all reasonable men I know, myself included, wouldn't choose what they did.

Kevin is not teaming up with DG. And DG is eligible for Epic because he got his ban prior to the Epic changing the rules.

Im glad he can race Epic again

No matter what anyone says the Epic has got it right. You get caught and we will never see you again. Finish and Klar!

So would that apply to Daryl Impey?

So would that apply to Daryl Impey?

No silly...he was innocent

So would that apply to Daryl Impey?

The hearing bought his Bill Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" defense which makes him not guilty of doping as opposed to post by SwissVan claiming he was innocent. Impey was not innocent, if he was innocent he would not have not have had a case to answer, he took a masking agent but could explain how it got into his system. A bit like the stain on the little black dress.

This sets a bad example for youngsters. There are degrees of wrong I suppose for doping, but non of them carry a hard enough sanction. Look at both DG and Hoffman.

They get caught, go away for a while and come back as if nothing happened. It really is currently worth the small risk of being caught vs these light sanctions. Even winning!!

Just a side note, people were very quick to accept SAIDS ruling on Impey being first guilty then innocent but this 2 month reduction is being lambasted.

Either SAIDS is really a bunch of weirdos or we are a fickle bunch.

A reduction in ban is really sending the wrong message to the cycling community even if he bargained.

Tch!

And he will be back, have seen him out training on the cape roads and mountains

No love lost between DG and local pro's

 

https://twitter.com/JarrydHaley/status/511810942104260608

Jarryd who?

edit:double submit 

There are a number of people here that support Dave and hate Dave. Yes he did wrong and to me, it doesn't matter what you chose to do, if its illegal, you need to bear the brunt of your actions.

That being said, I am not sure that one drug is worse than the other...how many of us have broken the traffic laws?? Not once, I don't believe you... The law is the law, not matter how small or big. If you break it, even just slightly, you have contravened!

He has served his time and I certainly hope he makes a good come back, without a sponsor and can show that he can still make a success and take some needed prize money. 

Jarryd who?

For me personally if it is banned and you are caught with it in your system then you are done. It sets a president. And also is crystal clear then. You can't be a half cheat or a half doper. If things are black and white then it makes things easier.

there can never be just black or white, it's impossible. No matter where you draw the line in the sand guys will come up to it and get lumped in with the guys who were there in the first place.

If a CFO slips up in his professional capacity he goes to jail for fraud and never works with money again.

If a doctor slips up and makes a negligent mistake they get sued and will most likely lose their medical licence.

Engineer, same.

A "mistake" in this context is professional negligence at best, fraud at worst.

I same should apply to cycling, life time ban. 2 years is a joke, and reducing sentences is even more of a joke. Nothing will change if there are no consequences.

What happens if you eat Free State Steak?

Whaaat? I said different drugs = different sanctions. Whats your take or is it easier to ask the questions than answer them?

Did you not say say ban them forever?

there can never be just black or white, it's impossible. No matter where you draw the line in the sand guys will come up to it and get lumped in with the guys who were there in the first place.