Dark Horse Brands appointed as exclusive distributor for Trek & Bontrager in South Africa

Mr Mulebar, perhaps you can offer advice on my Trek warranty question as per my post earlier please:

 

http://www.thehubsa....-brake-problem/

Check your mail.....

WHEN ARE YOU BRINGING EMILY BATTY TO CAPE TOWN?

That's higher on my priority list than a website :-)

Yes, I have something else.

 

You make a point of saying that you are not involved with Dark Horse Wheels. Nobody had asked at that stage.

 

You claim you did a name search and for whatever reason their name didn't come up. Your first statement proves that you knew of their existence, no matter what the name search did or didn't reveal. Yet you went ahead and used the name anyway. You couldn't just pick up the phone and ask them before pulling this bully BS?

 

Poor form imo. Pisspot poor.

We only found out about Dark Horse Wheels after we had registered our company and started communicating to IBD's. As a Limited company we are registered on a different system to Dark Horse Wheels as a Closed Corporation, hence their name did not come up and Dark Horse whatever is by no means original.

There are about 20 other Dark Horse Companies registered in SA, we chose the name as it resonates with where we feel our brands are in the market place.

Can you please explain what bully BS are you referring to? Surely stating that we are not involved with Dark Horse Wheels is merely stating a fact to clarify any confusion?

Yes, I have something else.

 

You make a point of saying that you are not involved with Dark Horse Wheels. Nobody had asked at that stage.

 

You claim you did a name search and for whatever reason their name didn't come up. Your first statement proves that you knew of their existence, no matter what the name search did or didn't reveal. Yet you went ahead and used the name anyway. You couldn't just pick up the phone and ask them before pulling this bully BS?

 

Poor form imo. Pisspot poor.

I have to agree with Falco, the moment you said PS we have nothing to do with Darkhorse wheels, you admitted that you knew of them and their name yet still chose pretty much the same name which will cause confusion to the uneducated and ill informed.

 

If you have been in the cycling industry long enough to build up a portfolio and be able to take on board the likes of Trek, then you will have definitely heard of Darkhorse wheels even if you had no dealings with them

Not to rain on your parade, but they would have heard of them AFTER registering their name, and before posting on the Hub, right? Therefore once performing a more thorough search, what was initially thought to be an unused name (which they subsequently used) they then found out was used (after having registered / used the name Dark Horse)

The Hub is not the place where names are registered. They found out about Dark Horse Wheels, and therefore, in an attempt to maintain clarity, they illustrated the disconnect in their initial post.

No malice or ill intention there, guys.

 

 

That's higher on my priority list than a website :-)

You might just become a real good friend to some of us. She knows the local Batty Army well..

Just remind me, what's the problem again?

 

Go for it Mulebar guy. Best of luck with your endeavours - heck you need it, transformation is not easy.

There's no problem, just clarifying that as Dark Horse Brands we are not affiliated to Dark Horse Wheels just as we are not affiliated to Dark Horse Comics, Investments, Finance, Distributors etc.

Not sure why some hubbers have got there panties in a knot about the fact that we're just trying to clarify who sells what.

so it was the bicycle company, then it became royalty sports, now this? same people, different name again?

 

https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/industry-news/the-bicycle-company-changes-name-to-royalty-sports-r1333

"Royalty Sports have appointed local businessman, Mr. Chad O’Riordan to its Board as sales director with immediate effect.

And now:

"Says Chad O’Riordan, Managing Director of Dark Horse Brands: “We’re excited at the opportunity..."

Mmmm, makes you wonder.

 

 

There's no problem, just clarifying that as Dark Horse Brands we are not affiliated to Dark Horse Wheels just as we are not affiliated to Dark Horse Comics, Investments, Finance, Distributors etc.

 

Not sure why some hubbers have got there panties in a knot about the fact that we're just trying to clarify who sells what.

This sir, is The Hub. Thou doth not use such a tone with the folk here. You are to take whatever's thrown at you like a gentleman, and you are to explain yourself to their satisfaction, and in defending yourself, you will not make use of words like 'panties'. Not till you're at 1000 posts...

 

 

"Royalty Sports have appointed local businessman, Mr. Chad O’Riordan to its Board as sales director with immediate effect.

 

And now:

 

"Says Chad O’Riordan, Managing Director of Dark Horse Brands: “We’re excited at the opportunity..."

 

Mmmm, makes you wonder.

What's it got you wondering Horacio...?

"Some staff that were working with the Trek Brand before have moved across to Dark Horse to try and maintain some continuity."

We only found out about Dark Horse Wheels after we had registered our company and started communicating to IBD's. As a Limited company we are registered on a different system to Dark Horse Wheels as a Closed Corporation, hence their name did not come up and Dark Horse whatever is by no means original.

There are about 20 other Dark Horse Companies registered in SA, we chose the name as it resonates with where we feel our brands are in the market place.

 

Can you please explain what bully BS are you referring to? Surely stating that we are not involved with Dark Horse Wheels is merely stating a fact to clarify any confusion?

Leading with this explanation would have been a good idea. Would have saved (edit) the confusion.

Not sure why some hubbers have got there panties in a knot about the fact that we're just trying to clarify who sells what.

Being a corporate representative you should be bigger than name calling. If your going to get sucked into stuff like this on the Hub your doing your brand a massive disservice.

Leading with this explanation would have been a good idea. Would have saved (edit) the confusion.

 

 

 

Being a corporate representative you should be bigger than name calling. If your going to get sucked into stuff like this on the Hub your doing your brand a massive disservice.

Didn't realise I was out of line calling people on the Hub "Hubbers"

I unreservedly apologise to anyone offended by the use of this term.

 

 

What's it got you wondering Horacio...?

 

"Some staff that were working with the Trek Brand before have moved across to Dark Horse to try and maintain some continuity."

A leopard doesn't change its spots... Wishing them the best though in trying to fix the Trek brand. Maybe this time they are for real. Go for it Mr Mulebar!

A leopard doesn't change its spots... Wishing them the best though in trying to fix the Trek brand. Maybe this time they are for real. Go for it Mr Mulebar!

Thanks and yes WE are for real!

Didn't realise I was out of line calling people on the Hub "Hubbers"

 

I unreservedly apologise to anyone offended by the use of this term.

Good for you... showing me your the bigger man. Was just trying to help you out. Clearly I was wasting my time.

 

 

Good for you... showing me your the bigger man. Was just trying to help you out. Clearly I was wasting my time.

*you're

 

 

What's it got you wondering Horacio...?

 

"Some staff that were working with the Trek Brand before have moved across to Dark Horse to try and maintain some continuity."

*Horatio...

Thanks and yes WE are for real!

All the best with this venture.

Keep it real!

I love thehub.

Faaark - does anyone call Shimano by it's importers name Coolheat?

I'm gonna buy me a Hullabaloo - oh I mean a Rocky Mountain....

Apart from this thread I'm guessing 99% of hubbers will never hear the words Dark Horse Brands ever again - it'll be Trek Trek Trek.

Dry out and untie your panties people.

I love thehub.

 

Faaark - does anyone call Shimano by it's importers name Coolheat?

 

I'm gonna buy me a Hullabaloo - oh I mean a Rocky Mountain....

 

Apart from this thread I'm guessing 99% of hubbers will never hear the words Dark Horse Brands ever again - it'll be Trek Trek Trek.

 

Dry out and untie your panties people.

. Give this man a bells, well put Eldron

What business is it of hubbers what companies name themselves? (there is a shop in Pretoria East called "The Hub" btw. Perhaps a better crusade for hubbers so inclined to take on?)

If there is a dispute, it would be between the dark horses to settle, no?

*you're

About time someone started correcting grammar and spelling on the hub. Since some of the old guys have moved on standards in the use of the language and the courage to correct miscreant posters seems to have resulted in a noticeable drop in readability of posts.

Not to rain on your parade, but they would have heard of them AFTER registering their name, and before posting on the Hub, right? Therefore once performing a more thorough search, what was initially thought to be an unused name (which they subsequently used) they then found out was used (after having registered / used the name Dark Horse)

 

The Hub is not the place where names are registered. They found out about Dark Horse Wheels, and therefore, in an attempt to maintain clarity, they illustrated the disconnect in their initial post.

 

No malice or ill intention there, guys.

Ok, so who really cares what the company is called, however I do have to wonder how much this new company knows about the industry if they have never heard of Dark Horse Wheels? Really? I am not "in" the industry and I know all about Dark Horse Wheels........ Anyway if Dark Horse wheels challenge them they are in pole position to win the case as they have used the name for a significant period of time within the cycling industry and are well known (except to the the new Trek distributor). Dark Horse cosmetics etc etc are not relevant as they do not operate in the same industry and I highly doubt that they would even object or that their registration is even in the same category.........Its just good business practice to avoid these issues and conflicts....

Hands up all hubbers who have heard of Dark Horse Wheels??

Oh yes, one other thing, If Dark Horse Wheels knows about an infringement on their trademark and do not challenge it, they may loose the right to keep it............thats assuming they have registered "Dark Horse Wheels" as a trademark and not just as a CC..... I see a race to the registration office as we speak...........

If Trek decided "not to renew their contract" what does it help that the SAME people now just work for a different named company?

Same Leopard just different spots?

What's it got you wondering Horacio...?

 

"Some staff that were working with the Trek Brand before have moved across to Dark Horse to try and maintain some continuity."

But this particular person isn't just working for you he is the Managing Director of the new company. The previous company wasn't exactly known for its continuity of supply or customer service so it would be nice to know who is involved in the new company, and their committment to customer service.

But this particular person isn't just working for you he is the Managing Director of the new company. The previous company wasn't exactly known for its continuity of supply or customer service so it would be nice to know who is involved in the new company, and their committment to customer service.

From what was said here all the previous staff is now with the "new" company