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Adverse analytical finding in recent mountain bike stage race

By Matt · 878 comments

Cycling SA received notification from the UCI (International Cycling Union) of an adverse analytical finding from a sample provided by Barry Warmback on 18 March 2013 at the Absa Cape Epic.

The analytical report confirmed the presence of the steroid, Stanozolol in his sample. Barry is therefore provisionally suspended with immediate effect from competing in any event. The SAIDS (South African Institute of Drug-free Sport) process will now take its course.

Cycling SA reiterates its zero-tolerance approach to doping in sport and will continue working with the UCI and SAIDS in the promotion of a drug-free sport via its awareness programmes and extensive testing.

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Wyatt Earp

May 23, 2013, 8:43 PM

Ballas bigger than biceps.

Good night all.

Pure Savage

May 23, 2013, 9:02 PM

Well I believe his post to be honest and sincere.

 

And he does raise some good points about CSA funds being wasted on testing back markers rather than helping events out etc. rather have another few events on the calendar (with some people on whatever supplements they like, paying the entry fee) which would enable is to have more And better events.

 

Unless you on the podium earning a salary it does not matter. Log your times on Strava and compare yourself to your own times. Why worry about the people around you? I don't agree with it but I would not be bothered if they doing the ride for fun.

 

Any way just an opinion on an interesting topic. Good luck Barry and hope you still get to enjoy mountain biking.

Showtime

May 23, 2013, 10:13 PM

 

 

Ya lesson learned, It's not important to me any more. I got engaged on new years and my priorities have shifted. What's killing me is that I made the right choice to stop the gear. Sadly, just a little too late. Now i'll never do another Epic and who knows when i may be able to enter another event.

 

The most important thing to me is that they don't strip my partner of his finish. I battled to get the lad to train on anything but water. He doesn't even take a multivitamin.

 

I have allot of respect for the way you handled this. Keep riding your bike, the best times on a mountain bike are with friends not in events.

RRA

May 23, 2013, 10:28 PM

Respect hope it works out . :thumbup:

Tumbleweed

May 24, 2013, 1:52 AM

Well done on an honest post. Respect for that.

 

I don't think your appearance in any way "flagged" you. There is, as far as I know, a random list given to the dope-testing team at races. Your number came up. That's all.

Eugene Oppelt

May 24, 2013, 3:01 AM

BTW, the guy who posted my company contact details, You're a piece of work. What if I'd posted on the forum that you're a child molester then put your company contact details up...? What the hell is wrong with you...? Very brave behind your keyboard there...

 

That was inappropriate, MTBaaisikilist.

Some folks here can be rof.

 

It is good that you brought your viewpoint here.

Take care. This is not easy stuff you're facing.

Vetseun

May 24, 2013, 3:03 AM

Good luck

Octavian

May 24, 2013, 3:25 AM

MtnBaaisklist, how come didn't you approach them directly after they tested you, and notify them that months ago you used x & y and that you would rather fess up beforehand. Would you have said something if they didn't find anything?

Eugene Oppelt

May 24, 2013, 3:25 AM

Hope that MTBaaisikilist doesn't feel obligated to answer to every possible enquiry here.

Only to himself, I say.

DIPSLICK

May 24, 2013, 4:06 AM

Hope that MTBaaisikilist doesn't feel obligated to answer to every possible enquiry here.

Only to himself, I say.

I agree or it's only going to end up in a handbag match

GLuvsMtb

May 24, 2013, 4:55 AM

Does anyone know how many non-pros were tested during the event? I don't buy the random test thing. Perhaps the Epic should offer voluntary testing prior to the event to anyone that think that due to a medical situation or the like he/she may produce a positive sample of some sort. I wonder how many Sani amateurs would have failed a dope test due to catching a cold / flu beforehand and trying to doctor it away. Sounds like every second rider had some form of cold/flu.

 

Some education / communication is also required to avoid mass paranoia at next years Epic. What items on the banned list would sanction action against non-competitive amateurs and what over the counter /prescription meds contain these substances?

Tumbleweed

May 24, 2013, 4:59 AM

Does anyone know how many non-pros were tested during the event? I don't buy the random test thing. Perhaps the Epic should offer voluntary testing prior to the event to anyone that think that due to a medical situation or the like he/she may produce a positive sample of some sort. I wonder how many Sani amateurs would have failed a dope test due to catching a cold / flu beforehand and trying to doctor it away. Sounds like every second rider had some form of cold/flu.

 

Some education / communication is also required to avoid mass paranoia at next years Epic. What items on the banned list would sanction action against non-competitive amateurs and what over the counter /prescription meds contain these substances?

 

It's simple, isn't it? It's a UCI-sanctioned event. So, whatever is on Wada's list is banned.

Tumbleweed

May 24, 2013, 5:00 AM

Hope that MTBaaisikilist doesn't feel obligated to answer to every possible enquiry here.

Only to himself, I say.

 

I think he has already answered quite extensively.

Wyatt Earp

May 24, 2013, 5:00 AM

I don't buy the random test thing.

 

In this particular case ,me neither.

GLuvsMtb

May 24, 2013, 5:06 AM

Ok so for next year's epic SuperCycling and those polar seminars should focus on the allowed / banned meds that the average Joe can/ cannot use prior to the event. Will a voltaren shot 2 days prior get me DQ'd? Does my nasal spray contain stuff that will produce a positive? Do I need to send my USN for independent testing?

patches

May 24, 2013, 5:11 AM

What !

 

am i missing something , why people dope is beyond me but to add to my "WTF " thought . why would a person who is not even a top finisher do it blink.png

 

Isn't Winstrol for getting ripped?

 

Maybe he just wanted to look good in the public showers?!

(Deon)

May 24, 2013, 5:15 AM

MtnBaaisklist, how come didn't you approach them directly after they tested you, and notify them that months ago you used x & y and that you would rather fess up beforehand. Would you have said something if they didn't find anything?

 

Erm, see, he said that he chose not to say anything since he has been off the juice for some time.. I mean how long is that stuff in your system anyway?

 

Are the internationals whether pro or not tested yet?

Kranswurm

May 24, 2013, 5:19 AM

Ok so for next year's epic SuperCycling and those polar seminars should focus on the allowed / banned meds that the average Joe can/ cannot use prior to the event. Will a voltaren shot 2 days prior get me DQ'd? Does my nasal spray contain stuff that will produce a positive? Do I need to send my USN for independent testing?

 

Stanozolol is not your average USN supplement

It contains anabolic steroids and is taken knowingly with a specific purpose

Afraid the oke is stuffed and I see no difference between David George and oke

People around here need to be a little more consistent in their condemnation of dopers

 

Stanozolol

Tumbleweed

May 24, 2013, 5:21 AM

Erm, see, he said that he chose not to say anything since he has been off the juice for some time.. I mean how long is that stuff in your system anyway?

 

Are the internationals whether pro or not tested yet?

 

From wiki:

 

 

Detection of use [edit]

Stanozolol is subject to extensive hepatic biotransformation by a variety of enzymatic pathways. The primary metabolites are unique to stanozolol and are detectable in the urine for up to 10 days after a single 5-10 mg oral dose. Methods for detection in urine specimens usually involve gas chromatography-mass spectrometry or liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry.[2][3][4]

NotSoBigBen

May 24, 2013, 5:22 AM

NotSoBigBen even uses Evening Primrose Oil.

I've seen his legs glistening at the starts of races.

 

Well done Bazza on coming on here amongst the 'high and mighty' and telling your side which I have no doubt is the truth having known you for a long time.

 

It will get ugly I'm sure as the 'big boys' wake up and take it on but all I can say is don't abandon the bike and I hope to still see you out and about enjoying it as you always have. Myself and Dangerous Dan will join you for rides as we always have!

 

Now on the matter of the 'Evening Primrose Oil', damn man it hasn't made me any faster but the wimmin folk throw themselves at me when I'm using it ...... have to fight them off :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:

bradwentzel

May 24, 2013, 5:25 AM

Well done chap.

Must have been tough to come out here and say all that

NotSoBigBen

May 24, 2013, 5:26 AM

Stanozolol is not your average USN supplement

It contains anabolic steroids and is taken knowingly with a specific purpose

Afraid the oke is stuffed and I see no difference between David George and oke

People around here need to be a little more consistent in their condemnation of dopers

 

Stanozolol

 

Not so sure about stuffed, he doesn't earn his money from it, doesn't podium at events, just a 'weekend warrior' ..... he said he'll take whatever 'punishment' and has probably already moved on ......

VicanZA

May 24, 2013, 5:27 AM

I believe him! He likes to pump weights, get super massif and wear those little underwear.

 

Hope they don't strip ur partners epic finish.... Good luck.

Octavian

May 24, 2013, 5:28 AM

Erm, see, he said that he chose not to say anything since he has been off the juice for some time.. I mean how long is that stuff in your system anyway?

 

I think it is irrelevant whether the stuff is in your system or not. The fact of the matter is that he has muscles like a horse, which he self admitted was partially attributed to taking steroids.

 

He might have been off the juice for some time, but the mere fact that you still have muscles like a horse (partially attributable to steroids) should make you think twice before your enter a competitive race.

NotSoBigBen

May 24, 2013, 5:29 AM

I think it is irrelevant whether the stuff is in your system or not. The fact of the matter is that he has muscles like a horse, which he self admitted was partially attributed to taking steroids.

 

He might have been off the juice for some time, but the mere fact that you still have muscles like a horse (partially attributable to steroids) should make you think twice before your enter a competitive race.

 

So no rugby players should be entering either then?

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