Adverse analytical finding in recent mountain bike stage race

Hey, why don't you get a second job to pay for the lawyers fees? Perhaps phone super sport to see if they need a co host for the weekly cycling programme. Assuming you have a voice like honey, did I spell that right?

I suppose you should look at the UCI rules to see if they specify the fine amount and under what conditions they apply. Essentially when you entered you probably accepted the rules in some form. Then you could possibly plead mitigating circumstances around the fine amount or offer ridiculous payment terms.

http://www.uci.ch/in...FILE&id=NDc3MDk

Search for "fine" in the PDF document

Good thing you are not a pro then...

http://www.telegraph...oping-fine.html

Can you not offer to accept the ban but refuse to pay the fine? If you wait for the CSA action there may well be further costs that they expect you to pay? Alternatively by the time CSA do go thru the motions there may be enough time to squeeze 3 towers in

That's what I suggested to the UCI. I cc'd William Newman (the big cheese at CSA) in on the mail and await a response. I was provisionally suspended from all races until the outcome. A few ppl have suggested just racing anyway and stuff CSA, but that's not the right thing to do. Also, the last thing I need is a heaftier sentence for blatant defiance. I'll take the 2 years, but there's no way I'm paying a fine. Telling them it's not within my financial means is not just a story, it's a fact, and that's exactly what I've said.

for some reason i missed this thread completely and found it quite interesting reading after the fact. My take on things is while i do not agree with the use of steroids of any form of PEP what benefit is there to testing a middle to back marker. Their result is immaterial in every aspect except the competition amongst peers. I believe the that guilty part has expressed himself honestly and I respect him for that despite my feeling about Steroids etc. It is also pleasing to see how our sport has successfully helped him move away from that.

As for the ban - i think it is fair. As for the fine - not so much. An small arbitration hearing with both parties could very easily sort that out.

To answer the question of "what would happen if you entered anyway" absolutely nothing - Online entry companies are not verifying whether a rider is banned r not during an entry process. At best they are checking if they have CSA membership and if not selling a day license

ME PERSONALLY I WOULD TELL THEM U SENDING THEM A PINEAPPLE(they can figure out what to do with it)

IMHO the CSA has there head up there assses,,i have paid my licence 3 times this year and for some or other REASON each time i get to a race i have to pay my "daily entry fee".. i will put that 30k on a bet when u enter they COULD NOT FIGURE IT OUT since after a few rounds with me explaining that i paid my fees, the answer i got was "our system is not 100%updated" ON 3 DIFFERENT RACES

Why do you not want to pay the fine ? Is it because you do not have the money, or because it is to much in your opinion ?

Why do you not want to pay the fine ? Is it because you do not have the money, or because it is to much in your opinion ?

QUESTION with a question slows,, do you think the "FINE" is realistic?????

If you read the rules posted by NINJA, you will see they make provision for recovering the "results management costs" and specify the amount. So it is not a fine.

I'm not a lawyer, but we are all probably ignorant, and when we enter a sanctioned event, we accept the rules etc of the governing bodies. In so doing, we have "signed" a contract. And to our detriment, without reading and understanding the consequences.

So we become liable. Not that we change the terms, but we could decide not to partake !

Hey, why don't you get a second job to pay for the lawyers fees? Perhaps phone super sport to see if they need a co host for the weekly cycling programme. Assuming you have a voice like honey, did I spell that right?

Why do you not want to pay the fine ? Is it because you do not have the money, or because it is to much in your opinion ?

Focus SB

'Telling them it's not within my financial means is not just a story, it's a fact, and that's exactly what I've said. ' so probably both?

Why do you not want to pay the fine ? Is it because you do not have the money, or because it is to much in your opinion ?

 

QUESTION with a question slows,, do you think the "FINE" is realistic?????

See my post above. Looks like it is not a fine, but to cover the costs.

When will this end...?

When will this end...?

Doping - never.........in any sport

This thread - sometime in the future

Decide what outcome you're willing to accept and how much you want to spend on lawyers.

Compare with whats on offer.

Do the sums.

Why do you not want to pay the fine ? Is it because you do not have the money, or because it is to much in your opinion ?

Both

That's what I suggested to the UCI. I cc'd William Newman (the big cheese at CSA) in on the mail and await a response. I was provisionally suspended from all races until the outcome. A few ppl have suggested just racing anyway and stuff CSA, but that's not the right thing to do. Also, the last thing I need is a heaftier sentence for blatant defiance. I'll take the 2 years, but there's no way I'm paying a fine. Telling them it's not within my financial means is not just a story, it's a fact, and that's exactly what I've said.

Thanks for updating the topic and posting the official documentation, it is interesting to follow from an outsiders perspective. Its definitely a lousy situation to be in.

Hopefully they will consider reducing the "fine".

Based on what they say in the acceptance sanction letter its not a fine as such but rather liability for the costs of the whole process which they are trying to recover.

If it was a fine then I could see them reducing it, but if its based purely on costs i'm not sure if they will entertain the idea, and it might end up costing you more in legal fee's to argue (and possibly loose) the issue.

Interesting question is if you did not return a positive, how do they recover those costs? Point being is that they already have some sort of fee structure to recover those costs and thus its more of a punishment and not a cost recovery exercise.

nah me ill send a pineapple :whistling: :whistling:

Why do you not want to pay the fine ? Is it because you do not have the money, or because it is to much in your opinion ?

He said above that he does not have the means to pay

I agree-tell them to bugger off!

If it means you can't ride a UCI sanctioned event- does it really matter?

There are only a couple in RSA anyway...

nah me ill send a pineapple :whistling: :whistling:

No bucks for the 'fine'... entry to Epic & S2C are REAL cheap

No bucks for the 'fine'... entry to Epic & S2C are REAL cheap

So you know how he managed to get a ride at Epic and Sani2C then I guess

They will sue you for the money.

hence why you suggest a small fee each month. It'll cost them more to sue than the actual money.

So you know how he managed to get a ride at Epic and Sani2C then I guess

Gotta love random posts that don't relate to factual events whatsoever.