{"id":16434,"date":"2017-09-07T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2017-09-07T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bikehub.co.za\/news\/2017\/09\/07\/review-banshee-prime-r6850\/"},"modified":"2023-02-08T06:27:54","modified_gmt":"2023-02-08T06:27:54","slug":"review-banshee-prime-r6850","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bikehub.co.za\/news\/review-banshee-prime-r6850\/","title":{"rendered":"Review: Banshee Prime"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Prime numbers can be confusing. But Banshee\u2019s one makes a lot of sense.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re not much of a gamer, don\u2019t google Banshee Prime. You\u2019ll only end up much confused, as I did, confronted by a gaming character which your teenage kids probably recognise \u2013 but, you should not.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-68335300-1504707153.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040793\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040793\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-68335300-1504707153.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-68335300-1504707153.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Banshee Prime pictured above is more familiar. A product of Canadian boutique frame manufacturer Banshee, it\u2019s an example of the trend bike for 2017: long-travel 29ers. We are to understand that boost axle spacing has finally enabled wheels to be strong and stiff enough to do 29er Enduro bikes justice and as such, this year has thus far delivered a slew of \u2018new\u2019 29ers with a lot more travel than you\u2019ll ever require.<\/p>\n<p>Headline numbers from the specification sheet are impressive: 135mm of rear wheel travel, 449mm of reach (in size L), bottom bracket only 335mm from the trail surface and a 66.5-degree head angle. Banshee has engineered the Prime frame with a number of clever features too, allowing adjustable geometry and compatibility with current axle standard and different wheel size options.<\/p>\n<p>You can run the Prime with either a boost 148&#215;12 rear hub or the more \u2018traditional\u2019 142&#215;12, and appealing to those with incurable build OCD are tyre options for 27+, 29 and 29+. Plainly, this is a remarkably adjustable frame for whichever trail-to-enduro build you would need, but most of them run a 160mm fork up front, as wide as possible 29er tyres and the latest Cane Creek squashy bits in the middle.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"text-2xl font-bold\">The Frame<\/h2>\n<p>Although the defining feature of Banshee\u2019s Prime is inarguably its KS-link suspension, most observers would comment on the oddity of a \u2018new\u2019 aluminium frame in 2017. It\u2019s true, we have all become followers of the string-and-glue cult that is carbon-fibre, but if you are going to be rushing rock gardens and risking an \u2018off\u2019, aluminium\u2019s ability to absorb impacts with greater resistance to a single strike critical failure, is not to be discounted.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-35460400-1504709061.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040815\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040815\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-35460400-1504709061.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-35460400-1504709061.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"grid grid-cols-12 gap-4\">\n<div class=\"col-span-6\">\n<a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-96744900-1504709062.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040816\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040816\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-96744900-1504709062.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-96744900-1504709062.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-span-6\">\n<a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-24875600-1504709070.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040821\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040821\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-24875600-1504709070.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-24875600-1504709070.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s a disarming attractive frame with strengthening arches between top- and seat tube and above the bottom bracket. If you have a thing for quality metal fabrication and industrial design shaping for the sake of function, instead of fashionable form \u2013 you\u2019ll be taken by the Prime\u2019s presence.<\/p>\n<p>The linkages are cleverly designed and aligned too and its Banshee\u2019s suspension engineering which is a significant part of its boutique brand appeal. Scotsman Keith Scott (no, really, we\u2019re not making it up), is Banshee\u2019s kinematics guy and with a master\u2019s degree in mechanical engineering and experience at Rolls-Royce aerospace, he understands a bit more than most about making your bike\u2019s wheels track the trail, even when the trail is trying to OTB you into every possible feature.<\/p>\n<p>Scott\u2019s suspension design is called KS-link and it functions on the principle of separating front and rear axle forces by connecting the two-triangles which combine for a Prime frame, with two short links. Most bikes feature a chainstay which pivots on the front-triangle, but a few brands add links instead. The idea here is that you decouple pedalling forces (less climbing bob) and improve rear suspension action during braking. A debit is that you have additional bearings and linkages requiring maintenance \u2013 but for those who ride bikes which feature a lower link keeping the frame together, there\u2019s often no going back.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"text-2xl font-bold\">Specifications<\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<ul class=\"specsList\">\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Frame<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Banshee Prime (L), Orange and Lime<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Fork<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">MRP Ribbon 160mm<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Shock<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Cane Creek Double Barrell Inline 200&#215;57<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Stem<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Chromag Ranger 40mm<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Handlebar<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Chromag Fubar 780mm<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Grips<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Csixx Lock on<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Saddle<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Kore<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Seatpost<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Rockshox Reverb stealth 125mm<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Brakes<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">SRAM Guide RSC<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Brake rotor<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">SRAM, 200mm Front 180mm Rear<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Shifters<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Box One push-push<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Rear Derailleur<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Box One 11-speed<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Cassette<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">SRAM GX 11-42<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Chain<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">KMC DLC, black\/yellow<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Crankset<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">RaceFace Turbine 175mm<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Chainring<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Raceface Cinch 30T round<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Rims<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">CSixx XCM, 32 hole<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Hubs<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Bitex, boost<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Front Tyre<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">eThirteen TRSR 2.35 <\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Rear Tyre<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Maxxis Aggressor 2.30<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Bottom Bracket<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">E13 BSA30 <\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Pedals<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Shimano XT<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Bike Computer \/ Power meter<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">Garmin 500 \/ PowerTap G3 Hub<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Price: Frame + Cane Creek Double Barrell Inline Shock<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">R28 000<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"row_title\">Price: build<\/span><span class=\"row_data\">R90 000<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"text-2xl font-bold\">Do the bits work?<\/h2>\n<p>The most sensible South African Prime build could best be classed as Cape \u2018Duro, with cSixx XCM rims (25mm internal with frame colour matching decals), an unusual e*thirteen TRSR 2.35 up front and Maxxis Aggressor 2.3 rear, 30-tooth Raceface chainring driving Turbine cranks, with cadence transferring into XT trail pedals. The helm pays homage to Mercedes-Benz roadster tradition, it\u2019s a two-spoke steering wheel &#8211; a contemporary interpretation of the original 300 SL.<\/p>\n<p>Steering the long-travel 29er is an 800mm cSixx END low-riser handlebar, kept in position with something fittingly Canadian: a Chromag Ranger 40mm stem. Or you could go combination Chromag, sacrificing some of the cSixx\u2019s trail chatter damping, with an aluminium Fubar.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-87433300-1504709065.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040818\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040818\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-87433300-1504709065.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-87433300-1504709065.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There is one other 135mm 29er available in South Africa, but it\u2019s carbon, which means the Prime is quite a unique offering. Banshee prides itself on the suspension function of its bikes and with a 160mm MRP Ribbon and Cane Creek Double Barrell Air Inline CS (most elaborately named shock on sale), it\u2019s extraordinarily comfortable traveling over rock strewn technical terrain at speed.<\/p>\n<p>The Cane Creek is hugely adjustable and if you have the discipline to configure it properly (testing settings and noting them, instead of just fiddling haphazardly with the four parameters of tune: LSC, HSC, LSR, HSR), Banshee\u2019s KS-link suspension delivers the paradoxical \u2013 perfect \u2018pop\u2019 off launches and an innate aptitude to smooth even the worst moonscape of trail braking bumps.<\/p>\n<p>Long-travel bikes are great for monster trucking down technical trail. They build momentum effortlessly, regardless of terrain, insulating you from the worst of deflections &#8211; but at times their slack geometry and ample suspension travel can mitigate against agility and dull steering responsiveness.<\/p>\n<p>The secret to appropriate geometry is not a number in isolation, but how all those angles combine when you are onboard and pointing down a steep trail, dropper out of the way and weight down low. Inherently long-travel 29ers should be that bit more difficult to flick into corners or around features due to the gyroscoping effect of those big wheels and wide tyres. Banshee\u2019s counter to this, with the Prime, is that reach number of 449mm. It gets you really centred over the bike, in a comfortable position that loads weight on that front tyre, which means when you do lean it there\u2019s turn-in, instead of understeer and the inelegant sound of panicky brake scrub.<\/p>\n<div class=\"grid grid-cols-12 gap-4\">\n<div class=\"col-span-6\">\n<a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-28398400-1504709067.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040819\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040819\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-28398400-1504709067.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-28398400-1504709067.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-span-6\">\n<a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-76440400-1504709071.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040822\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040822\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-76440400-1504709071.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-76440400-1504709071.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Any bike with a sub 68-degree head angle will make concessions in tight terrain climbing agility, but the advantage \u2013 again \u2013 of Prime\u2019s considered geometry, and the reach measurement, is that you are in a position to pull on the bars a bit, torqueing the cockpit into and through steep switchback climbs, without initiating energy sapping quarter wheelies. It\u2019s obviously not a seven-day stage racing bike, but you\u2019d be entirely comfortable on any of the South African three-day stage racing classics, which prioritise trail riding.<\/p>\n<p>The bike industry\u2019s moving away from aluminium. Custom and craft frame builders use steel and for all the rest, the trend is carbon. Despite this, there\u2019s something about the security of an aluminium all-mountain bike and that singletrack experience of not subconsciously seeing the carbon repair bill (or frame failure risk) in all those features you are attempting to ride during a highly technical trail session.<\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s the principal appeal of this Prime: it has geometry numbers to match the most contemporary carbon bikes, with a notably advanced and proven suspension linkage, and very little critical failure terrain impact risk. The grams in difference between Prime and a comparable 135mm carbon frame (about 500g), could be offset by reinvesting the saving in purchase price towards lighter wheels or cranks \u2013 which is where the true weight saving gains are made, because they are rotation components, unlike a frame.<\/p>\n<p>For those who appreciate the boutique appeal of a low-volume manufacturer, that exclusivity of ownership and clarity of design vision, Banshee\u2019s Prime is a world of future-proof 29er built from a material many still trust more than they\u2019d admit to. In a world where even the top echelon of gravity racing has converted to bigger wheels, imagining Banshee\u2019s Prime as the DH-racer\u2019s trail riding training bike, is not too far off its purposing.<\/p>\n<div class=\"grid grid-cols-12 gap-4\">\n<div class=\"col-span-6\">\n<a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-75096100-1504707221.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040794\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040794\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-75096100-1504707221.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-75096100-1504707221.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-span-6\">\n<a class=\"ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-85888100-1504707222.jpg\" data-fileid=\"1040795\" data-fileext=\"jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-fileid=\"1040795\" class=\"ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed\" alt=\"ccs-58780-0-85888100-1504707222.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.bikehub.co.za\/production\/uploads\/2023\/02\/ccs-58780-0-85888100-1504707222.jpg\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bg-slate-100 p-5\">\n<h2 class=\"text-2xl font-bold\">Looking for a new or second hand mountain bike?<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bikehub.co.za\/classifieds\/category\/25-complete-bikes\/\" rel=\"external nofollow\">Find a mountain bike in our marketplace here.<\/a>\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Prime numbers can be confusing. But Banshee\u2019s one makes a lot of sense. If you\u2019re not much of a gamer, don\u2019t google Banshee Prime. You\u2019ll only end up much confused, as I did, confronted by a gaming character which your teenage kids probably recognise \u2013 but, you should not. 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