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Tokai and Silvermine to remain closed to the public

By Press Office · 762 comments

In the interest of public safety, as well as for the protection of the environmental integrity of the Silvermine and Tokai sections of Table Mountain National Park (TMNP), park management decided that these two areas will remain closed to the public until further notice.

TMNP management understands that users are eager to access these areas, however they remain very sensitive and unsafe, and public use of these areas are off limits due to:

  • Smouldering and burning vegetation still needs to be extinguished and flare ups will occur as stumps and roots burn.
  • Standing trees that have been burnt or damaged by the fire are extremely dangerous as they continue to come down in the area.
  • Recently burnt veld (as well as adjacent areas) is hazardous as the fire will have burnt roots underground and foot falls may cause serious injuries.
  • Unstable slopes may result in rock falls
  • Winds and rain may exacerbate the danger with respect to falling trees, branches, rock falls and mudslides
  • Hazardous clear-felling operations of the burnt plantation trees are underway by Cape Pine
  • Disturbance to surviving animals
  • Burnt areas are sensitive as windblown seeds can be damaged and the first emerging plants can be killed by accidental trampling
  • Disturbance to sensitive erodible soils

The closure of the burnt areas will be continually assessed and reopening will only be considered once all safety and environmental issues have been addressed. For some areas this may take between six to twenty four months.

TMNP management and staff would like to assure the public that their focus is to secure the areas for the public’s safety and to as quickly as possible rehabilitate the affected sites for future use.

Please assist us by being patient and please remain out of all burnt areas while mother nature heals herself.

Comments

Slapsock

Mar 25, 2015, 2:00 PM

Ok, so what do we do then, short of telling them we think they're lying? I can see that going down well.

 

What part of "you may not enter for the *many reason* provided." do you not accept?

I think the point Tim is trying to make is that we get treated like second class citizens time and time again. They tell you guys one thing and do something else the next.

Amongst all the reasons mentioned earlier, how do any of those reasons affect silvermine, you are only allowed on the road there so no damage to flora, there is no forest to speak of there so no chance of dead trees falling on you.

While I fully understand the need to properly assess the damage but to say no one will be allowed in there a minimum of 6 months is shocking when Jonkers expects to be fully up and running in that time.

Flowta

Mar 25, 2015, 2:02 PM

you're right.. I'm out. 

 

What's wrong with asking questions and pointing out inconsistencies?

 

 

I think the point Tim is trying to make is that we get treated like second class citizens time and time again. They tell you guys one thing and do something else the next.

Amongst all the reasons mentioned earlier, how do any of those reasons affect silvermine, you are only allowed on the road there so no damage to flora, there is no forest to speak of there so no chance of dead trees falling on you.

While I fully understand the need to properly assess the damage but to say no one will be allowed in there a minimum of 6 months is shocking when Jonkers expects to be fully up and running in that time.

 

100%

(Deon)

Mar 25, 2015, 2:24 PM

What's wrong with asking questions and pointing out inconsistencies?

 

 

 

100%

You right too. There is no problem with that but what do we want from it?

 

Some battles are worth fighting. Choose wisely.

Eddy Gordo

Mar 25, 2015, 2:34 PM

Thing is Tokai is a reserve. Maybe we are allowed back maybe not.

 

However instead of trying to ring tmnp to get going and giving answers. Arent there any farms in the area, steenberg, constantia that would like to have a trail on their land?

 

Man I wish I had a farm with a hill!!!!

GoLefty!!

Mar 25, 2015, 2:47 PM

If youhave one without hills I can work with that

DJR

Mar 25, 2015, 3:19 PM

It is simply logical that those serving an essential function be allowed into Tokai and those not serving an essential function be kept out until it is safe to allow them back. 

 

1. The baboon troops are in absolute crisis at the very moment. They have lost 99% of their habitat and food source. They were already too many before the fire because their numbers grew over the last decade or two and their habitat did not. They will be starving right now. What options do they have? Invade the suburbs and raid dustbins? The monitors keep them away from houses where they will be unwelcome. Raid the ripening grapes? The electric fences and the shotguns will keep them away. Translocate them? Never before done successfully. Take them where? Near farms? To be shot? Wilderness areas? They don't know Mr Leopard. So, yes, by all means, allow the baboon experts and the vets in. They have an urgent and essential function to perform right now!

2. Sentec will be allowed in to service their radio masts and telecoms equipment. Without it Cape Town cannot function. Oh, wait, we are out of the cricket world cup, so what, maybe keep Sentec out. :ph34r:

3. Cape Pine must remove the pines ASAP. Let them get on with it first. The sooner they get it done, the sooner we will get back to normal

 

Sorry, but mtb is not essential at the moment, no matter how much I feel that it is.

DJR

Mar 25, 2015, 3:39 PM

Ooops, I forgot to say...

 

4. S.A.National Biodiversity Institute scientists.....should be allowed up there to monitor whatever starts to sprout. :)  

DJR

Mar 25, 2015, 4:37 PM

Re. the Tokai baboon troops:

 

I don't think there is enough left for them to survive on? All the dead tortoises, lizards and small animals might give a bit of short term protein, but otherwise it is very barren. 

 

I wonder whether they will feed the baboons to tide them over? Feeding them is generally a bad idea as it teaches them bad habits that will later bring them into conflict with humans and leave only one ultimate option, euthanasia! I wonder whether there is a way to feed them without causing problems? Something like a remote baboon "restaurant" halfway up the mountain? Or "hiding" food all over the place to encourage them to forage naturally?

 

There has always been part of the mountain where they could move to when it burnt. This time I really think they have nowhere to go. Will they manage to make the jump to Cecilia Forest? Is that even desirable with the proximity of Kirstenbosch and the suburbs? 

 

It will be interesting to see what the baboon experts come up with. As far as I know, this is a dilemma never encountered before.

Flowta

Mar 25, 2015, 6:23 PM

Re. the Tokai baboon troops:

 

I don't think there is enough left for them to survive on? All the dead tortoises, lizards and small animals might give a bit of short term protein, but otherwise it is very barren.

 

I wonder whether they will feed the baboons to tide them over? Feeding them is generally a bad idea as it teaches them bad habits that will later bring them into conflict with humans and leave only one ultimate option, euthanasia! I wonder whether there is a way to feed them without causing problems? Something like a remote baboon "restaurant" halfway up the mountain? Or "hiding" food all over the place to encourage them to forage naturally?

 

There has always been part of the mountain where they could move to when it burnt. This time I really think they have nowhere to go. Will they manage to make the jump to Cecilia Forest? Is that even desirable with the proximity of Kirstenbosch and the suburbs?

 

It will be interesting to see what the baboon experts come up with. As far as I know, this is a dilemma never encountered before.

The link I posted earlier

 

https://m.facebook.com/HumanWildlifeSolutions.SA/albums/566258916849806/?refid=56

 

 

3. Foraging for the Northern Region baboon troops

 

Baboon rangers, BTT members, veterinarians and animal welfare experts are all evaluating the situation, on a daily basis. The assessment is that there is adequate food and plenty of water in running streams, for all four Northern Troops.

 

4. Plea to residents NOT to feed the baboons

It is absolutely critical that residents do NOT start to randomly feed baboons in their gardens, natural areas or along the road with vegetables, fruits or ANY food. This will just encourage baboons to start raiding homes again.

 

It is vitally important to encourage the baboons to continue foraging out of town. Research has shown that the fires stimulate plant growth and new growth. With the arrival of the first rains, bulbs will be easier to find and the foraging may be better than it was before the fires. Baboons are already benefiting from the first flush of green growth that has already occurred after the fire.

DJR

Mar 25, 2015, 6:31 PM

The link I posted earlier

 

https://m.facebook.com/HumanWildlifeSolutions.SA/albums/566258916849806/?refid=56

 

 

3. Foraging for the Northern Region baboon troops

 

Baboon rangers, BTT members, veterinarians and animal welfare experts are all evaluating the situation, on a daily basis. The assessment is that there is adequate food and plenty of water in running streams, for all four Northern Troops.

 

4. Plea to residents NOT to feed the baboons

It is absolutely critical that residents do NOT start to randomly feed baboons in their gardens, natural areas or along the road with vegetables, fruits or ANY food. This will just encourage baboons to start raiding homes again.

 

It is vitally important to encourage the baboons to continue foraging out of town. Research has shown that the fires stimulate plant growth and new growth. With the arrival of the first rains, bulbs will be easier to find and the foraging may be better than it was before the fires. Baboons are already benefiting from the first flush of green growth that has already occurred after the fire.

Thanks, I missed that. Agree re. not feeding them, it will just lead to even greater disaster later. Glad to hear they reckon there is enough food for them, but I still think they are going to have a rough time.

Headshot

Mar 25, 2015, 7:12 PM

Ok, so what do we do then, short of telling them we think they're lying? I can see that going down well.

 

What part of "you may not enter for the *many reason* provided." do you not accept?

Does it matter whether it goes down well or not? It might just put a stop to the BS and foster a somewhat more respectful response in future. 

 

I don't think there's a conspiracy - just a badly run organization that has a problem with the truth. No wonder they don't want to put anything in writing - it could very easily be used against them when they do a flip flop.

 

As for the reasons given - I'll say it again - if there is room for scientists and lumberjacks and Sentech ( you dont seriously believe their preposterous claim that sentech will not be allowed access to fix faults? They probably have a right to access the antennae ) then there is room for Tokai MTB to have a one off visit to check on the trails.

 

Jonkers is partially open already. Bennet has been in securing damaged trails to prevent access for safety reasons. It looks every bit as bad as Tokai from the pics I have seen...

 

But ya why fight a battle when you can win the war eh? 

GoLefty!!

Mar 25, 2015, 8:31 PM

can tokaimtb get alignment among its committee before going forward please.

marko35s

Mar 25, 2015, 9:08 PM

can tokaimtb get alignment among its committee before going forward please.

Sounds like a plan, possibly easier said than done though.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 26, 2015, 5:11 AM

can tokaimtb get alignment among its committee before going forward please.

We're meeting tonight. It's very high on the agenda

GoLefty!!

Mar 26, 2015, 5:51 AM

well as long as you take the misalignments off thehub and sort it out before discussing challenges among yourselves here.

 

There are completely divergent approaches to co-operating with SANPARKS being projected, both are right in appropriate contexts but only one approach will work.

Capricorn

Mar 26, 2015, 7:54 AM

well as long as you take the misalignments off thehub and sort it out before discussing challenges among yourselves here.

 

There are completely divergent approaches to co-operating with SANPARKS being projected, both are right in appropriate contexts but only one approach will work.

dont be boring: this is fun. reminds me of that coup of a couple of years ago, and look how well things turned out because of that ugly spat. ;)

dirtypot

Mar 26, 2015, 9:12 AM

I don't care for all the politics - I just want to ride.

Bloukrans

Mar 26, 2015, 9:13 AM

I don't care for all the politics - I just want to ride.

Jinne boys, we need to pull into one direction! We just wanna go ride

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 26, 2015, 9:24 AM

Jinne boys, we need to pull into one direction! We just wanna go ride

Apparently one of their members has left, so it's not the most relevant group to aspire to!

popcorn_skollie

Mar 26, 2015, 9:26 AM

Apparently one of their members has left, so it's not the most relevant group to aspire to!

it bothers me that you know this

(Deon)

Mar 26, 2015, 9:34 AM

it bothers me that you know this

 

:clap:

Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

Mar 26, 2015, 9:38 AM

it bothers me that you know this

news on the radio. There's certain things you can't ignore, especially when they mention that there's a new trending topic on twitter, which is something along the lines of "cut yourself for one direction" with corresponding pictures of people showing their sliced fore-arms in sadness of the split. I kid you not.

 

That... is... disturbing. For it to be trending, it's got to be large. 

usxorf

Mar 26, 2015, 12:31 PM

The cut thing is trolling.

Shebeen

Mar 26, 2015, 12:35 PM

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k139/radar19/thread-derailed.jpg

GoLefty!!

Mar 26, 2015, 1:29 PM

:rolleyes: 

Apparently one of their members has left, so it's not the most relevant group to aspire to!

 

 

Not apparently. Its all my teener has been watching on TV. It trended on Fox NEws first so I  Just kinda went like        :rolleyes: ...... whatevvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeer.

 

Then it was on like CNN and I figured like :rolleyes: whatevvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeerrrrrrr

 

 

 

clearly I'm like totally not cool

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