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Pyga Industries launches the Stage: a new carbon marathon bike with a twist

By Press Office · 159 comments

In late April PYGA INDUSTRIES announced the launch of their first carbon fibre, full suspension marathon bike at the opening of their new Cape Town offices. Dubbed the Stage, the 29″ bike is designed as an out and out race machine, with Pyga’s signature twist on geometry.

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Says founding partner Pat Morewood: “Longer travel bikes have seen a big change in geometry, driven by the Downhill scene. These changes have trickled down into the enduro and trail market, but marathon and XC bikes have been relatively stagnant in this regard. We felt that the marathon category could really benefit from this new way of thinking”

The Stage features a slacker head angle counter acted with a longer reach; so that shorter stems can be fitted. The slacker head angle (compared to the marathon norm of 70-71 degrees) creates a more stable ride, while the longer reach/short stem combo keeps the steering direct and inspires confidence – resulting in a ride with precise steering, without the twitchy feel of many other bikes the marathon category. This updated geometry gives the bike maximum stability at speed, cornering and steep technical descents yet climbs among the best in its class.

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Pyga will also be offering a longer travel trail bike called the Stage MAX. This versatile bike has longer travel at the rear (126mm) and can accommodate up to a 140mm fork and will be perfect for guys looking for a 29er trail bike with contemporary geometry.

Along with their progressive geometry, the Stage and Stage MAX will be the first bikes to debut Plus 5; a correction to chain line issues that have been overlooked by bike designers since the onset of 10 and 11 speed drive trains. This is achieved by shifting the complete rear drive (wheel axle and cassette – NOT the chain ring position) 5mm towards the drive side, which alters the effective chain line from 49mm to 44mm, while maintaining the same chain ring position relative to the centre-line of the frame. Simply put, the chain line on the 11th gear (easiest gear, largest cog) on a Plus 5 frame is equivalent to the chain line on the 9th gear of a regular frame.

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In essence, Plus 5 offers better shifting performance and reduced wear on the drive train. Interestingly, this is achieved without the need for proprietary parts – all that is required is an adjustment of the wheel dish. This has the added bonus of a stiffer, stronger wheel; as the wheel dish adjusted for Plus 5 has a more even spoke tension between drive side and non drive side spokes.

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Both bikes offer the ability of carrying 2 water bottles within the main frame, while still maintaining a low stand over height. A removable derailleur mount keeps the lines looking clean when not using dual chain ring crank sets.

The Stage already has one big race under its belt – Nico Pfitzenmaier raced it to 2nd place, with 4 stage wins at this year’s 9 day, 934km stage race, the Joberg2C. Pyga will be offering a limited number of bikes for early pre order release, exclusively for customers based in South Africa. These bikes will be available from October this year in size LRG, followed by MED then XL.

Pre order frames will be individually numbered in series, and pre order customers will be able to specify their own serial number on a custom alloy badge. Contact a Pyga dealer for more info or contact Pyga directly and they can put you on the list. Each model will have 2 colour options, as well as two build options, as seen below.

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Stage Geometry

Bright colour scheme: Blue matte frame // Orange gloss decals

Covert colour scheme: White gloss frame // Charcoal matte decals

Rear travel: 95mm

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Onza Canis 2.25

Stage MAX Geometry

Bright colour scheme: Orange matte frame // Blue gloss decals

Covert colour scheme: Charcoal matte frame // White gloss decals

Rear travel: 126mm

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Onza Ibex 2.25

Stage Build Specification

Stage XX RS-1 Build R94 900 *RRP – Price and build spec may change without notice

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Stage XO1 Sid build R76 500 *RRP – Price and build spec may change without notice

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Stage MAX Build Specification

Stage MAX XX1 Pike RCT3 R92 500 * RRP – Price and build spec may change without notice

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Stage MAX XO1 Pike RC R79 950 * RRP – Price and build spec may change without notice

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Comments

Johny Bravo

Jun 6, 2015, 6:38 PM

It's hardly an argument with the only informative comments and contributions coming from Spoke101 and El Capitan...

True, but this was never a vs thread. The Pyga is great looking, BUT, none of us have ridden it. Where almost everyone has ridden a Epic.

Ryanpmb

Jun 6, 2015, 6:40 PM

True, but this was never a vs thread. The Pyga is great looking, BUT, none of us have ridden it. Where almost everyone has ridden a Epic.

I've ridden a Max. Never ridden an Epic. Colour me alternative.

Johny Bravo

Jun 6, 2015, 6:43 PM

I've ridden the Max. Never ridden an Epic. Colour me alternative.

Thats quite alternative, not having ridden the most popular marathon bike in SA. Maybe go try it sometime, it really is quite nice. First available demo day I wil go ride the Pyga. For sure. Open minded.

SiriS

Jun 6, 2015, 6:46 PM

Means exactly what i said, s-works followers in the thousands, so theres more than enough people who can afford this bike. But changing the minds of those followers might be Pyga's first problem.

Wasn't the word "copy" superfluous?

Ryanpmb

Jun 6, 2015, 6:46 PM

Thats quite alternative, not having ridden the most popular marathon bike in SA. Maybe go try it sometime, it really is quite nice. First available demo day I wil go ride the Pyga. For sure. Open minded.

I'm sure it is. As are most of these expensive bikes. Back to PYGA.

Spoke101

Jun 6, 2015, 6:50 PM

So right there, that is me out of this argument. No proof to back that.

 

Proof?

I live in PMB so does Pat, I regularly call in at Pyga HQ and get on well with the guys there.

I work in a shop that sells Spez bikes, I have ridden and raced an Epic.

I have also ridden the Pyga Stage and been present when a frame was weighed.

I have personally weighed the rims and complete wheels of both brands.

SiriS

Jun 6, 2015, 6:53 PM

Proof?

I live in PMB so does Pat, I regularly call in at Pyga HQ and get on well with the guys there.

I work in a shop that sells Spez bikes, I have ridden and raced an Epic.

I have also ridden the Pyga Stage and been present when a frame was weighed.

I have personally weighed the rims and complete wheels of both brands.

How is the Pyga stronger, perhaps that was the point JB tried to make?

Johny Bravo

Jun 6, 2015, 6:55 PM

Proof?

I live in PMB so does Pat, I regularly call in at Pyga HQ and get on well with the guys there.

I work in a shop that sells Spez bikes, I have ridden and raced an Epic.

I have also ridden the Pyga Stage and been present when a frame was weighed.

I have personally weighed the rims and complete wheels of both brands.

Good to know. No really, glad it is a alternative to the Epic.

Spoke101

Jun 6, 2015, 7:00 PM

Good to know. No really, glad it is a alternative to the Epic.

 

Just to put it out there. I was never arguing, I was asking how you came up with the equivalent Spez being a lot cheaper.

 

How is the Pyga stronger, perhaps that was the point JB tried to make?

 

To answer your question, more carbon used and a thicker layup. Pat is not one to skimp on carbon in order to chase weight, thus the heavier frame.

 

When you next at your LBS have a walk around and give some of the carbon frames a little squeeze and you might be very surprised at the difference between different frames.   

Johny Bravo

Jun 6, 2015, 7:02 PM

Just to put it out there. I was never arguing, I was asking how you came up with the equivalent Spez being a lot cheaper.

 

 

To answer your question, more carbon used and a thicker layup. Pat is not one to skimp on carbon in order to chase weight, thus the heavier frame.

 

When you next at your LBS have a walk around and give some of the carbon frames a little squeeze and you might be very surprised at the difference between different frames.   

Are they going to be offered as frame only options? A expert world cup Epic is R65k, x01, sid, carbon rims etc. So a little cheaper than the Pyga. Also a Expert Stumpjumper is R67 500, with xtr, Pike, brain and carbon rims. So also cheaper than the max. Also, the XO1 bikes are specced with x1 cranks and shifters, so not really full xo1. But hey, great looking machine. Cant wait to ride it.

Spoke101

Jun 6, 2015, 7:54 PM

Are they going to be offered as frame only options? A expert world cup Epic is R65k, x01, sid, carbon rims etc. So a little cheaper than the Pyga. Also a Expert Stumpjumper is R67 500, with xtr, Pike, brain and carbon rims. So also cheaper than the max. Also, the XO1 bikes are specced with x1 cranks and shifters, so not really full xo1. But hey, great looking machine. Cant wait to ride it.

 

Not sure on frames only.

 

Valid points, the cheaper Pyga's are 10k more but you have ignored the top of the range bikes where you are going to pay 35k more for the S-works Epic which might be 150-250g lighter.

 

Neither of the Expert frames are full carbon.

Frames aside there are plus factors for both sets of bikes.

I don't count a XTR rear derailleur as a "XTR" bike when it's got SRAM 1050 Cass & 1051 chain.

Both Spez bikes have non factory Fox suspention vs the better the Monarch XX & RT3 Rockshox, but have better shifters and carbon cranks.

The Guide brakes on the Pyga's are also a plus on the Magura's and XT's on the Spez's.

Christie

Jun 6, 2015, 8:09 PM

Good looking bike, awesome colours. The total price looks a bit crazy imo, but thats capitalism. The frameset price would be interesting. Time will tell if it is worth it.

 

Comparisons with Sworks,Scalpels etc. will have to wait till we at least know what the weight of the Pyga is.

 

Thumbs up for another solid local bike.

 

I dont get the idea with the wheelset, though. If those are generic rims from out East, and the set indeed costs R30k, there could be a large chunk of profit margin in there...

PhilipV

Jun 6, 2015, 8:11 PM

I wonder if the people that the point out the Pyga price point is super high realise that they are not part of the Pyga target market.

Pyga is a boutique brand, and they don't manufacture the same volume like some brands mentioned here. I reckon it is like comparing a Nissan GTR to a Pagani Huyra (spelling?) with the sports being the GTR and pyga the Pagani. The GTR is probably faster the Pagani on most tracks, and do more races, but the Pagani is more exotic.

Another boutique brand that I'll group with pyga is Swift.

Jaco-fiets

Jun 6, 2015, 8:18 PM

I wonder if the people that the point out the Pyga price point is super high realise that they are not part of the Pyga target market.

Pyga is a boutique brand, and they don't manufacture the same volume like some brands mentioned here. I reckon it is like comparing a Nissan GTR to a Pagani Huyra (spelling?) with the sports being the GTR and pyga the Pagani. The GTR is probably faster the Pagani on most tracks, and do more races, but the Pagani is more exotic.

Another boutique brand that I'll group with pyga is Swift.

Swift a botique brand? Are you sober?

PhilipV

Jun 6, 2015, 8:19 PM

Swift a botique brand? Are you sober?

Dood nugter ou bul.
Ryanpmb

Jun 6, 2015, 8:27 PM

I wonder if the people that the point out the Pyga price point is super high realise that they are not part of the Pyga target market.

Pyga is a boutique brand, and they don't manufacture the same volume like some brands mentioned here. I reckon it is like comparing a Nissan GTR to a Pagani Huyra (spelling?) with the sports being the GTR and pyga the Pagani. The GTR is probably faster the Pagani on most tracks, and do more races, but the Pagani is more exotic.

Another boutique brand that I'll group with pyga is Swift.

What is your definition of a boutique brand?

I'm not asking to correct you, nor to attack you, nor to sway you with my views. I'm genuinely interested to hear (read).

It's such a broad/ vague/ overused term these days....

Jaco-fiets

Jun 6, 2015, 8:31 PM

Dood nugter ou bul.

Dan is siverback ook seker ñ botique brand...

PhilipV

Jun 6, 2015, 8:49 PM

What is your definition of a boutique brand?

I'm not asking to correct you, nor to attack you, nor to sway you with my views. I'm genuinely interested to hear (read).

It's such a broad/ vague/ overused term these days....

My definition of a boutique brand is a brand with a small range, that manufactures and sells in low volumes, and is almost always aimed at the premium end of the market. Usually with a higher price than the competitive - albeit more common- products in the market.

 

You will not see these bikes everywhere, though some areas with strong retail presence might have a high market penetration, eg Pyga in Pmb, Yeti in the Morningside area in Jozi.

 

Off the top of my head I will suggest the following as boutique brands:

Pyga, Swift, Ellsworth , Spot, Yeti, Turner, Evil, Ventana, Canfield, Moots and Lynskey.

 

Where the frames are manufactured and the bikes assembled is beside the point in my opinion, as some of the best (and worst) carbon frames are from Taiwan.

PhilipV

Jun 6, 2015, 8:55 PM

Dan is siverback ook seker ñ botique brand...

Nee.

Silverback bikes are manufactured in high volumes, have a wide range and compete in a lot of segments with many price points. Silverback might not sell on a wide international level, but the market penetration is huge here in SA (where Silverback started) and is growing in Europe as well. So that's why I discern between it and Swift when calling them boutique brands.

 

Both Silverback and Swift are manufactured in the East, but that is pretty much where the similarity ends.

Ryanpmb

Jun 6, 2015, 8:58 PM

My definition of a boutique brand is a brand with a small range, that manufactures and sells in low volumes, and is almost always aimed at the premium end of the market. Usually with a higher price than the competitive - albeit more common- products in the market.

 

You will not see these bikes everywhere, though some areas with strong retail presence might have a high market penetration, eg Pyga in Pmb, Yeti in the Morningside area in Jozi.

 

Off the top of my head I will suggest the following as boutique brands:

Pyga, Swift, Ellsworth , Spot, Yeti, Turner, Evil, Ventana, Canfield, Moots and Lynskey.

 

Where the frames are manufactured and the bikes assembled is beside the point in my opinion, as some of the best (and worst) carbon frames are from Taiwan.

Interesting points. Thanks.

Christie

Jun 6, 2015, 10:46 PM

I will suggest the following as boutique brands:

Pyga, Swift, Ellsworth , Spot, Yeti, Turner, Evil, Ventana, Canfield, Moots and Lynskey.

Where the frames are manufactured and the bikes assembled is beside the point in my opinion, as some of the best (and worst) carbon frames are from Taiwan.

Several of the brands you mentioned make their frames themselves. I cant quite associate "boutique" and "made in Taiwan", of even worse, "made in China", with one another. Those Eastern countries are known for mass producing things cheaply. But that is just my take on it.

 

Regarding mass: I disagree with Spoke10, heavier <> stronger when it comes to carbon. With metal, it holds true, but for composites you could use a lot of low grade T300 fiber and get a heavier frame that is not as strong as the same frame made from high grade T1000 fiber, which could be lighter, too. The heavier frame could also have a higher %of resin, due to a lack of process control, which would also not make it stronger. In some cases with carbon composites, heavier implies lower quality.

flowCountry

Jun 6, 2015, 11:29 PM

I go to Europe couple of times per year bahahahhaha! Never seen a morewood there

Maybe because Morewood has no distributor in italy etc? ;)

 

I live in Switzerland and mostly every dh/fr rider knows Morewood bikes!

 

PYGA is also expanding here! The bikes they make are perfect for the terrain over here.

 

Bike the world (swiss PYGA distributor) is doing an awesome job for exemple! :)

NicoBoshoff

Jun 7, 2015, 1:04 AM

The trick would be to sponsor some pro's to ride this bike to podium on races like the Epic.

They had Nico Pfitzenmeier on one for the Joberg2C

NicoBoshoff

Jun 7, 2015, 1:10 AM

Spoke to a mate who has some insight. Due to their relatively poor buying power Pyga struggles to get components at prices that compete with the big boys, so they can't really get in lower (apparently).

 

That of course may be so but will also not convince me to fork out R20k more than I have to just to support local.

Spoke101

Jun 7, 2015, 1:19 AM

Several of the brands you mentioned make their frames themselves. I cant quite associate "boutique" and "made in Taiwan", of even worse, "made in China", with one another. Those Eastern countries are known for mass producing things cheaply. But that is just my take on it.

 

Regarding mass: I disagree with Spoke10, heavier <> stronger when it comes to carbon. With metal, it holds true, but for composites you could use a lot of low grade T300 fiber and get a heavier frame that is not as strong as the same frame made from high grade T1000 fiber, which could be lighter, too. The heavier frame could also have a higher %of resin, due to a lack of process control, which would also not make it stronger. In some cases with carbon composites, heavier implies lower quality.

I agree with your point. I should have maybe explained better.

I was meaning in the event of a crash and rock strike I am pretty sure which one would take the hit better.

But yes there are a huge number of variables when it comes to carbon strength.

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