Kevin Evans accepts doping charge

By the way, you will all be pleased to hear that Twitter the company is in serious Shiite. Not hard to see why; ask any Twat what the value of tweeter is and they will likely reel off a list of things, like being informed, being able to hear what celebs think about global warning, and all sorts of other esoteric boloux. Yeah, OK fine (personally I think it is all about ego and who can say the smartest thing in 140 characters [nobody likes a smartarrse, remember!]).

Then ask that Twat how much they will pay for the service.

 

That there is the value of Tweeter.

not really, they've got their issues monetizing the platform but themany investors still believe in the future potential for revenue. We don't pay anything to use google or facebook, they're doing ok. Even this here bikehub is a free platform, i wouldn't pay a subscription for it.

nah its not just jealous speculation. These guys are so blatant about it (like keeping it in the fridge next to their beer).

for those who do know, you don't even have to name the dudes. Surely SAIDS must have been tipped off by now if it's so blatant.

Twitter is in shite cause of seriously bad management and egos. Business model is pretty sound but the US stock markets are ruthless mate.

Twitter business model is like KE doping, dude. It's pretty far from sound or OK!

not really, they've got their issues monetizing the platform but themany investors still believe in the future potential for revenue. We don't pay anything to use google or facebook, they're doing ok. Even this here bikehub is a free platform, i wouldn't pay a subscription for it.

 

 

for those who do know, you don't even have to name the dudes. Surely SAIDS must have been tipped off by now if it's so blatant.

saids are also a little slow on the uptake

consider this scenario. KE applies for a TUE. SAIDS says no. KE races anyways. SAIDS know he wanted TUE so obviously he's on something. SAIDS only busts him 2 years later

Although, and it has been pointed out here multiple times, the court of public opinion has a lot lower level of burden of proof and is much quicker to judge as well as forget actually.

 

Lets use the case of Cycle Science who have closed their doors after the Pinarello case, and I dont see their signage up the road any more where they tried to move to.

 

People seem to quickly distrust other people who may have demonstrated character flaws in other areas.

Fully -- it's called reputation and it should stand up for you when you aren't there to speak for yourself.

nah its not just jealous speculation. These guys are so blatant about it (like keeping it in the fridge next to their beer).

Or sneaking off nudgie nudgie winky winky during the Giro del Capo to go see the Lung Man, making sure some members of the team aren't allowed on the 'special mission' duck (there it is again! Quack quack) under the cover of darkness.

not really, they've got their issues monetizing the platform but themany investors still believe in the future potential for revenue. We don't pay anything to use google or facebook, they're doing ok. Even this here bikehub is a free platform, i wouldn't pay a subscription for it.

 

It won't be long before MTN and Vodacom add all those to the list of OTT services it wants regulated...

Or sneaking off nudgie nudgie winky winky during the Giro del Capo to go see the Lung Man, making sure some members of the team aren't allowed on the 'special mission' duck (there it is again! Quack quack) under the cover of darkness.

exactly...

but now imagine trying to get that story out in court. And to prove what? I'm right and he's wrong? The net was closing anyways so why waste my time and effort if its going to come out soon

It's just a dangerous precedent if we can go around saying so and so quacks like a ..... You too would want the law and the burden of proof to protect you if someone calls you a (enter disgusting criminal activity here) on social media and that is what happened at the time.

 

But I don't want to detract any more from the true topic which is doping.

Once again, if your reputation is good and your conscience is clear, the accuser would look like a tool. If, on the other hand...

It won't be long before MTN and Vodacom add all those to the list of OTT services it wants regulated...

Going on what EWN is tweeting at the moment, the case isn't exactly in their favour. 

Once again, if your reputation is good and your conscience is clear, the accuser would look like a tool. If, on the other hand...

So you are suggesting that we take to twitter....say derogatory things about anyone we don't like....hopefully they prove that we are wrong and we simply look like a tool....sounds lik a nice way to be a douche without admitting to being a douche....

Once again, if your reputation is good and your conscience is clear, the accuser would look like a tool. If, on the other hand...

if someone came out on twitter blatantly calling me a doper (not even vague inferrences), I'd just laugh it off and wouldnt even give them the time of day.

KE/BS on the other hand....

as for the ZK - KE issue, it's so easy to see in hindsight that Team KE should never have engaged. As a pro cyclist you should just be used to the doping claims and accusations - it's (unfortunately) just part of the job. Imagine if Chris Froome took all the doping accusations seriously, and they come from everywhere from the French press to Greg Lemond et al (ZK has, at current count 640 followers - no disrespect, but that's nothing in the grand scheme of things).

The bizarre moment for me is when the WAGS get involved....

We don't care about your opinion (but we're replying, and ja, we did get lawyers involved) - but ja, we don't care about what you say!!

 

So you are suggesting that we take to twitter....say derogatory about anyone we don't like....hopefully they prove that we are wrong and we simply look like a tool....sounds lik a nice way to be a douche without admitting to being a douche....

not quite... its been known for years that KE is one of the dirtier riders. I'm surprised they only managed to nab him on his bio passport.

its a pity they didnt actually get him for the real stuff he was doing.

It wasnt wild accusations that I randomly thought up. There's a LOT of cycling stuff that goes on outside of the hub.

not quite... its been known for years that KE is one of the dirtier riders. I'm surprised they only managed to nab him on his bio passport.

 

its a pity they didnt actually get him for the real stuff he was doing.

 

It wasnt wild accusations that I randomly thought up. There's a LOT of cycling stuff that goes on outside of the hub.

But this is where the game become really interesting....how was this known ?

as for the ZK - KE issue, it's so easy to see in hindsight that Team KE should never have engaged. As a pro cyclist you should just be used to the doping claims and accusations - it's (unfortunately) just part of the job. Imagine if Chris Froome took all the doping accusations seriously, and they come from everywhere from the French press to Greg Lemond et al (ZK has, at current count 640 followers - no disrespect, but that's nothing in the grand scheme of things).

 

The bizarre moment for me is when the WAGS get involved....

I wonder if KE went to BE and asked for advice, or if BE just waded in swinging? I had a phone call with KE & BS before the threats of letters and it seemed settled. Then BE entered from the left with the lawyers and whatnot

all hubber hate dopers, except when its a SA pro or a mate. Then they will find every excuse under the sun not to crucify the guy.

 

pick a side. Either you hate doping and dopers or you dont.

 

Almost no-one here has any balls. You're all fickle. Everyone calls for a clean sport. But when a local "nice" rider gets busted, then theres a million excuses, stories, diversions.

 

As long as cyclists continue making excuses for dopers we will NEVER have a clean sport

Absolutely. And as long as dopers are labelled 'ex dopers' and welcomed back with open arms into teams, like Ian McLeod, Nolan Hoffman, Herman Douche and all the Euro pros you'd care to throw a phial of EPO at, well, then the risk is worth the reward, isn't it.

But this is where the game become really interesting....how was this known ?

too many stories from different sources with matching details. look at intern's post - theres plenty of that kind of thing going around

 So, if your statement wasn't unlawful, why did you retract?  

It is a wise man who chooses his battles.

Absolutely. And as long as dopers are labelled 'ex dopers' and welcomed back with open arms into teams, like Ian McLeod, Nolan Hoffman, Herman Douche and all the Euro pros you'd care to throw a phial of EPO at, well, then the risk is worth the reward, isn't it.

yussis - dont even get me started. How many "ex dopers" were on podiums at big races last year. And all is forgiven and forgotten. Please excuse me while i throw up. 

No wonder cycling in SA cant find sponsors. The dirty cyclists take honest sponsors for a ride and hope they can ride the money train until they retire or something better comes along, just hoping they dont get popped along the way.

Or they retire as soon as the heat starts closing in...

Again...no horse in this race for me and no favourite either....but when you make fleeting statements about a convicted cyclists riding partner....then the odds are already very thin and with a little bit of logic everyone knows who you are referring to...no need to even mention a name....kinda like a boomerang effect....KE went on a rampage and understandably so...it's human nature to want to defend ourselves and our honour...what I would not have done if I was KE....I would not have gone on that that rampage if I knew that I was actually doping...

Where's that human nature in defending ourselves and our honour now that we're an admitted doper? Kinda vanished PDQ when it wasn't some oke who could be bullied into silence with the threat of a lawyer's letter...

too many stories from different sources with matching details. look at intern's post - theres plenty of that kind of thing going around

I get that....but the world is full of stories about many things...some of these stories fuelled by..hate..envy...jealousy...anger...and often just maliciousness.....it's a crazy world and it's falling apart because people have nothing better to do than create drama.... 

I get that....but the world is full of stories about many things...some of these stories fuelled by..hate..envy...jealousy...anger...and often just maliciousness.....it's a crazy world and it's falling apart because people have nothing better to do than create drama.... 

theres thousands of cyclists. The stories are ALWAYS about the same handful... so either theres some fantastic conspiracy across all levels to smear their good name, or theres a couple of dirty cyclists who think they're above the law

They should have taken a picture, just imagine starting a "What's inside your fridge right now" thread and posting that as the first picture

 

I don't get why anyone involved in competitive cycling in this day and age (or the last 10 years) would be blatant about it.... it goes against all logic

At CES the jolly goshdarned internet fridge made a reappearance, this one has a camera which takes a pic every time its opened or some such, so you always have something on your phone letting you know just how much EPO stash is left after those big weekends...

Litigation has nothing to do with right or wrong but everything to do with the deepest pockets and the biggest ego. 

When the lawyers get involved, only the lawyers win.

Where's that human nature in defending ourselves and our honour now that we're an admitted doper? Kinda vanished PDQ when it wasn't some oke who could be bullied into silence with the threat of a lawyer's letter...

Easy to sit and take the moral high road when you actually strike gold after taking a dig in the dark....what if KE never doped...what then ?

Now at least we know where the term "bullied" came from....read all the comments from around 8:30 this morning...you might understand things a bit more clearly....at the time and in the light of lack of evidence...there was no bullying...