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Do eBikes belong on the mountain?

Written by Lance Branquinho.

By Bike Hub Features · 2683 comments

It’s been a year. Since their arrival. These most unprincipled battery bikes, with on-board power aiding their propulsion.

Much like creeping taxation, quinoa everything in restaurants and mobile data pricing, the ebike draws our collective ire. Judgement is absolute and crushing. ‘It’s not a bike. It’s a motorbike… If you can’t ride, go spin on a Wattbike at Virgin Active. Get fitter… They’ll ruin trail access for all of us’.

A year on, from the first proper e-mountain bikes (e-MTBs) becoming available in South Africa, has sufficient time passed for reflection, and perhaps, appraisal? Well, before Pravin’s next budget, where ebikes could quite possibly become another tax revenue item, instead of an incentive – as they are in Europe, my feelings toward them have altered.

I should be the prototypical ebike hater. My mountain bike is a South African brand single-speed 26. Crisis. Could I be more fundamental in my traditionalism? Yet I’m conflicted about these battery mountain bikes.

They’re not motorbikes

Obvious for some. Less so for others. If you use the most sophisticated e-MTB available in South Africa, which is Specialized’s Levo, it’s categorically obvious that they’re not motorbikes. Mopeds would be a more plausible correlation, but without a throttle, and cranks which turn, the motorbike/motorped association is plainly false. And facetious.

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The Specialized Turbo Levo. Photo credit: Ewald Sadie.

These are mountain bikes with pedal assist battery motors. They’re not off-road motorbikes with single-crown forks. Components are sourced from the bicycle industry, instead of motorcycle supply chain.

The hate, though, is real. Online polls register disapproval numbers in excess of 80%, damning the e-MTB’s existence. But we all know the internet, with its self-appointed crusaders, is rarely within a margin of reflecting reality. In Europe, where cycling sources its history and hosts its most credible events (road/XCO/DH), e-MTB sales are near surpassing those of non-assisted – dare I say ‘conventional’ – mountain bikes. I’d always table sales statistics as the truest representation of acceptance and trend. With e-MTBs, there’s no invalidating the numbers: in parts of Europe, e-MTB sales are 50% up year-on-year.

Are they moral?

The primary salvo of criticism against e-MTBs has been ethical: if you work less, how dare you have access to my realm of adventure. Earn your turns.

In racing, certainly, there’s no argument that as e-MTBs become more sophisticated, there’s a risk of BB-battery motor solutions becoming sufficiently compact, to be near undetectable. Especially at races where organisers don’t have the sophisticated X-ray equipment.

E-MTBs don’t belong anywhere near a mountain bike race. Not even in a separate category. And if you analyse Specialized’s Levo, that’s hardly its purpose. This is a trail-bike: dropper seatpost, Pike fork. It’s not meant for stage racing. At all. It’s meant to enable those who have perhaps past their peak or are burdened by schedule or health issues, to recapture the thrill of trail exploration and riding.

It’s why I struggle with the enclave argument of having to earn your turns. There are riders in their 60s who are in great shape, examples of life-long discipline and training commitment. Age is a real keeper of ability, though, and why shouldn’t they have the privilege of participation on those fantastic five-hour Sunday trail rides? They’re the founders, with great stories, still chasing the thrill. Why deny them? Perhaps more meaningfully: why deny the unqualified excitement of a 60-year old refamiliarizing themselves with off-road cycling after four decades away from bikes?

Kids. Partners. It’s a similar logic. If your partner or offspring wish to join on a weekend ride, yet are petrified of the discrepancy in endurance between yourselves, why isn’t the e-MTB a great solution? It enables a thoroughly testing training ride for you, without risking the frustration of waiting at the top of each gradient for ten minutes.

They’re interested in this world unfamiliar to them, yet so beguiling to you, with its tremendous gatekeeping function of fitness. Is allowing family or a non-biking friend this glimpse of access, to aid understanding of your training commitment, really an unethical sacrifice before the mountain bike Gods? I struggle to think it could be the case.

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Do they destroy trails?

Beyond the issues of ethical pedal assistance, trail destruction is the e-MTB-hater’s most vocal objection. The belief being that e-MTBs will enable riders so many runs, on a heavy bike, they’ll accelerate trail wear beyond all reasonable expectations.

It’s an absolutely rubbish claim, revealing an issue around trail wear and maintenance that’s conveniently ignored in South Africa: mass and bike set-up. Heavier riders, will harm a trail more. Heavier riders on relatively narrow, stage-race width tyres (at high pressures), will do this even more so.

Granted, The Levo is far heavier (22-and-a-bit-kg) than an aggregate South African rider’s bike, but the diversity in rider physiology rebalances this. How many rides have you been on where there are both 70- and 90kg riders? Exactly. The combined mass is what matters and most Levos, with rider, would equal the weight on many larger, fit, South African riders on their carbon marathon bikes. On a Levo, that mass contacts the trail through a much wider 27.5 plus tyre, which means less damage and potential brake lock-up.

Seeing the wood for the trees: e-benefits

As a purist, the concept of pedal assistance grates me. But I don’t live in an isolated Karoo valley all on my own. The momentum of trail access is empowered by participant numbers and people of influence – and they’re mostly mature stakeholders, unlikely to threaten Nino in a VO2 max test. If there are bikes that make these influential stakeholders ride more frequently and further, they’ll chair the negotiations for greater, lasting, trail access.

The burden of time, distance, and family are real. If your sanity and balance of zen depends on that specific singletrack descent, which is just too far from home within the time constraints of your scheduling, an e-MTB is not a tool for the lazy. It’s salvation for the committed.

Of all the unconsidered benefits of e-MTBs, safety is the outlier. Imagine a member of your riding group has an off in technical terrain, and you’re at the bottom of a valley, with the nearest mobile phone signal at the drop-in point you’ve just descended from. You have a problem. The ability of an e-MTB to get back up faster than anything else, and make that emergency call for help, might gain those crucial few minutes between a manageable evacuation and the delirium of an emergency evacuation.

Family. Kids. Dogs. Businesses which operate on weekends. I have none of these things in my life, but some of my friends do, and I’d like for them to have fewer excuses not to ride. It’s the reason I can’t bring myself to hate ebikes. Except when a 60-year old on a Levo is chatting away, whilst I’m close to exhaustion near the crest of a climb. Guess I need to train harder. eBikes make me a better rider. And I don’t even have one.

Comments

Robbow

Jan 7, 2019, 11:12 AM

From a trail background, being heavier and having the ability to zip uphill the potential damage and maintenance of trails is going to become an issue going forward with an increase in e-bike numbers. No surprise if trail systems start banning their use on trails.

 

Another thing, an E-biker passes you on the uphill during an event only to hang on the brakes on the next singletrack dragging a train of 20 riders without making way for anyone to pass. Eventually you get a gap on the next jeeptrack only to be passed by said rider on the next uphill to end up, once again in a train on the next singletrack.

 

E-bikes allow a less skilled / fit rider to get in a position where they end up bottlenecking and spoiling an entire ride for a lot of people when said rider should not be in that part of the field in the first place.

 

Its a problem and its going to get worse.

 

 

YAWN :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko:  :wacko: ...here we go again

DuncanDoughnuts

Jan 7, 2019, 11:16 AM

I took a mates e-bike for a spin yesterday - a Specialized jobby. It's not for me (yet) but I get it. I can't help feeling a bit like its cheating but at the same time I can see that it depends upon how you approach it. You can work just as hard on an e-bike (calories per hour) but at the same time you can also cover more ground and have more fun. The traditional bike sure isn't going to disappear but I see a lot of people taking to e-bikes in the future.

Cheating who ?

Rigardt@Scott

Jan 7, 2019, 11:17 AM

Won't kick any dead horses here. 

 

Was out on my morning ride today and spotted one of the new Giant Trance e-bikes - dam, that is one good looking motorbike!! Spaz was the only local option that actually resembles a normal bike, but this Trance-E takes the cake for me in terms of looks. Seriously nicely integrated battery and motor, and the paint is gorgeous! Wouldn't mind swinging a leg over one...

 

Now, if only they would release the Reign version! I would be looking at selling a kidney if that was on the table.

 

Edit: Image added.

 

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Robbow

Jan 7, 2019, 11:26 AM

Won't kick any dead horses here. 

 

Was out on my morning ride today and spotted one of the new Giant Trance e-bikes - dam, that is one good looking motorbike!! Spaz was the only local option that actually resembles a normal bike, but this Trance-E takes the cake for me in terms of looks. Seriously nicely integrated battery and motor, and the paint is gorgeous! Wouldn't mind swinging a leg over one...

 

Now, if only they would release the Reign version! I would be looking at selling a kidney if that was on the table.

 

Edit: Image added.

 

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Do what I did, buy the SX 160mm bike from overseas and bring it in yourself.

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Rigardt@Scott

Jan 7, 2019, 11:30 AM

Do what I did, buy the SX 160mm bike from overseas and bring it in yourself.

 

Okay, so from what I gather the SX is pretty close to Reign territory, that's pretty awesome! 

 

Probably a good thing I can't afford another bike now anyway!

 

Have you ridden any other e-bikes you can compare this to? What is the motor, battery life, handling, etc like? My only point of reference is the Spaz Turbo Levo (2016), which I really enjoyed!

Robbow

Jan 7, 2019, 11:59 AM

Okay, so from what I gather the SX is pretty close to Reign territory, that's pretty awesome! 

 

Probably a good thing I can't afford another bike now anyway!

 

Have you ridden any other e-bikes you can compare this to? What is the motor, battery life, handling, etc like? My only point of reference is the Spaz Turbo Levo (2016), which I really enjoyed!

 

I've had a short ride on the Spez, and considered the new Levo, but in reality the pricing is very steep for the spec. I do like the fit and finish of the Spez, but being tall (XL frame) I think the Giant is a better fit over the older model Levo.

 

I recently rode a Trek with the Bosch motor and can say the Yamaha in the Giant is much smoother and maybe even more powerful, the Bosch is way more on/off. But in fairness that was a 2018 spec, I also rode a 2018 spec Giant and the improvement to the 2019 motor/electronics is noticeable, so a new Bosch motor could certainly be an improvement as was the Yamaha.

 

Battery life is ok, in a normal mixed ride at home (Karkloof) I will use about 50% battery in 30/35km using the lower 3 power modes, that's a fair bit of climbing (600/700m ascent) and loads of singletrack. I reckon at a steady cadence on a predominantly flat ride you could stretch out towards the 100km mark.

 

The handling on mine is monster, long travel, good suspension and the weight make it GO when it points downwards and I'm really enjoying it, I do keep clipping trees with the 800mm bars though :whistling: . Its not as nimble as a "normal" Enduro bike, but it carries the momentum and I'm starting to trust the speed :eek:. I can happily ride all the stages we used for SA Enduro Champs in 2018, so its more than capable

 

The biggest letdown with mine has been the brakes, its comes specced with SRAM Code R's and they are very average. I just don't bond with the feeling and warbling, HOPE V4s are on order and will sort that out.

 

Overall though its a real laugh and I'm enjoying riding all my local trails on it.

Johan A Marais

Jan 7, 2019, 12:04 PM

Sounds like, feels like and surely must be a motor-bike chat room, this?  Surely this must sit under the Off Topic/Chat Chat forum, or have I missed something?   :whistling:

Odinson

Jan 7, 2019, 12:13 PM

From a trail background, being heavier and having the ability to zip uphill the potential damage and maintenance of trails is going to become an issue going forward with an increase in e-bike numbers. No surprise if trail systems start banning their use on trails.

 

Another thing, an E-biker passes you on the uphill during an event only to hang on the brakes on the next singletrack dragging a train of 20 riders without making way for anyone to pass. Eventually you get a gap on the next jeeptrack only to be passed by said rider on the next uphill to end up, once again in a train on the next singletrack.

 

E-bikes allow a less skilled / fit rider to get in a position where they end up bottlenecking and spoiling an entire ride for a lot of people when said rider should not be in that part of the field in the first place.

 

Its a problem and its going to get worse.

 

This is literally the bazillionth time everyone has heard those exact arguments. 

 

Talk about feeding a fed horse. 

Rigardt@Scott

Jan 7, 2019, 12:48 PM

This is literally the bazillionth time everyone has heard those exact arguments.

 

Talk about feeding a fed horse.

Sure you mean kicking a dead horse? ;)

 

Oop.... wrong thread

Rigardt@Scott

Jan 7, 2019, 12:49 PM

I've had a short ride on the Spez, and considered the new Levo, but in reality the pricing is very steep for the spec. I do like the fit and finish of the Spez, but being tall (XL frame) I think the Giant is a better fit over the older model Levo.

 

I recently rode a Trek with the Bosch motor and can say the Yamaha in the Giant is much smoother and maybe even more powerful, the Bosch is way more on/off. But in fairness that was a 2018 spec, I also rode a 2018 spec Giant and the improvement to the 2019 motor/electronics is noticeable, so a new Bosch motor could certainly be an improvement as was the Yamaha.

 

Battery life is ok, in a normal mixed ride at home (Karkloof) I will use about 50% battery in 30/35km using the lower 3 power modes, that's a fair bit of climbing (600/700m ascent) and loads of singletrack. I reckon at a steady cadence on a predominantly flat ride you could stretch out towards the 100km mark.

 

The handling on mine is monster, long travel, good suspension and the weight make it GO when it points downwards and I'm really enjoying it, I do keep clipping trees with the 800mm bars though :whistling: . Its not as nimble as a "normal" Enduro bike, but it carries the momentum and I'm starting to trust the speed :eek:. I can happily ride all the stages we used for SA Enduro Champs in 2018, so its more than capable

 

The biggest letdown with mine has been the brakes, its comes specced with SRAM Code R's and they are very average. I just don't bond with the feeling and warbling, HOPE V4s are on order and will sort that out.

 

Overall though its a real laugh and I'm enjoying riding all my local trails on it.

Sounds like Giant have a winning recipe on their hands! Thanks for the feedback!

Odinson

Jan 7, 2019, 12:58 PM

Sure you mean kicking a dead horse? ;)

 

Oop.... wrong thread

 

Muahaha!

 

At least someone picked up on it. 

Odinson

Jan 7, 2019, 12:59 PM

Sounds like Giant have a winning recipe on their hands! Thanks for the feedback!

 

Those Giants look fecking good for an e-bike. 

Johan A Marais

Jan 7, 2019, 1:05 PM

Those Giants look fecking good for an e-bike a Motorbike.

 

Fixed

Jewbacca

Jan 7, 2019, 1:59 PM

Fixed

Yeah.... All I've seen from you on this thread is changing the subject to motorbikes... I'm not sure if it's tongue in cheek or if you currently reside under a bridge but it's tedious.

 

E-bikes are here to stay. The market for them will grow.

 

Big bike parks without up-lift become so dam rad on an e-bike. Jonkershoek becomes amazing! All the trails in one day without busting several guts?

 

Sjoe.... thats a win in my books.

shaper

Jan 8, 2019, 1:55 PM

Haha, so ebikes are so last year.!!!!....... move over, hydrogen fuel cell bikes are here !!

 

https://www.pragma-industries.com/products/light-mobility/

 

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fanievb

Jan 14, 2019, 8:44 AM

ebike = fire hazard

coppi

Jan 14, 2019, 8:59 AM

I sometimes ride with Woesrand from Silvestar on Saturday mornings. Last Saturday there where 3 levo e-bikes in our group...............they rode alone up front 

Thor Buttox

Jan 14, 2019, 9:05 AM

I sometimes ride with Woesrand from Silvestar on Saturday mornings. Last Saturday there where 3 levo e-bikes in our group...............they rode alone up front

Hmmm... The state of things on this thread means I don't know whether to be angry with them for being elitist, or for you not taking things up above 30kph and putting them firmly in their place. Confusing times... Sigh
Rigardt@Scott

Jan 14, 2019, 10:00 AM

ebike = fire hazard

 

Well with the fires going in the Western Cape this year I think you just answered this question once and for all...

Headshot

Jan 20, 2019, 1:32 PM

Word on the trails is that some eMoped riders have been trying to ride their motos up down only DH tracks at Tokai. Needless to say this could cause serious ***. Why not try this kind of thing on a sand dune up the west coast rather? 

Thor Buttox

Jan 20, 2019, 1:39 PM

Word on the trails is that some eMoped riders have been trying to ride their motos up down only DH tracks at Tokai. Needless to say this could cause serious ***. Why not try this kind of thing on a sand dune up the west coast rather?

There is no way this could possibly be true. Consensus on this thread is that eBaaiks will only ever be bought by cost-conscious, bearded downhillers who will never endanger the trails and never by the kind of muppet who has more rands than sense, and thinks rules don't apply.
GLuvsMtb

Jan 22, 2019, 11:57 AM

Weber?

Anything less than a fire started by Flint and Carbon Steel is apparently frowned upon. Rumor has it that hubbers are dumping their blitz and gas fire starters to try and up their man-card points as well as their carbon footprints by making giant bon-fires with flint and steel and only starting the actual braaiing of meat well after midnight.

 

Disclaimer: I have one of these gas starter jobbies in my camp box. Hoekom sukkel as daar n beter manier is?!

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Rigardt@Scott

Jan 22, 2019, 12:25 PM

Anything less than a fire started by Flint and Carbon Steel is apparently frowned upon. Rumor has it that hubbers are dumping their blitz and gas fire starters to try and up their man-card points as well as their carbon footprints by making giant bon-fires with flint and steel and only starting the actual braaiing of meat well after midnight.

 

Disclaimer: I have one of these gas starter jobbies in my camp box. Hoekom sukkel as daar n beter manier is?!

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Haven't you heard? The new manly thing to do on the hub is to braai a cauliflower or bringel. Real men don't eat meat anymore. ;)

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