Burry Stander: Charges to be reinstated

This problem has multiple aspects, inter alia

1) Ineffective law enforcement nationally.

2) The culture of driving is dismal: average driver has little and/or poor education and often a serious selfish attitude problem, they should not be in control of a motor vehicle that can cause death so easily to others and often acts with impunity.

we have a society of unlawful attitude

we need to get to a attitude of abiding by the laws without supervision, big law's and small laws.

G

I commute to work by motorbike on occasion, and sometimes a specific situation arises in traffic not unlike what the road layout is in this case: Car going North is courteous and allows a gap for Car (Taxi?) travelling South waiting to turn into side street on left. Motorcyclist (me) going North doesn't realise this and comes up the inside of car, almost getting flattened by car turning in right in front of me. Cue much braking and hand signals. Strictly speaking though, I *was* in the wrong. I hope this wasn't the case in this situation.......

Ditto - I had a near miss with the exact same circumstances on my bicyle. cars letting other cars cross often gets messy with anything more than one single line of vehicles. not to say thats what happened in Burry's case though...

I have said it before and I will say it again. The real people that should be taken to court here are the Traffic Police. The less they do, the more people push the legal limits.. That means speeding, drinking and driving, texting and driving, turning illegally, skipping stop streets and lights, driving unroadworthy vehicles etc etc....If you can get away with because the police force is sitting on their arse..then you will, and that is the REAL problem. If I were the standers I would seriously consider suing the government....

Why are you shifting the blame to an unrelated party? Shouldn't we take resonsibility for our own actions? Your argument doesn't really make sense, because you can argue your point for any act against the law. Difficult one, because a grey area between complete nanny state and complete freedom.

I commute to work by motorbike on occasion, and sometimes a specific situation arises in traffic not unlike what the road layout is in this case: Car going North is courteous and allows a gap for Car (Taxi?) travelling South waiting to turn into side street on left. Motorcyclist (me) going North doesn't realise this and comes up the inside of car, almost getting flattened by car turning in right in front of me. Cue much braking and hand signals. Strictly speaking though, I *was* in the wrong. I hope this wasn't the case in this situation.......

Either that or the car on the same side drives by and specifically with bigger SUVs and taxis limiting the visibility the driver wanting to turn sees no traffic and turns and hits a cyclist or biker.

It's actually a good reason why not to cycle in the yellow lane.

Dries Liebenberg‏@DriesLiebenberg1h

Taxi driver in Burry Stander case overtook traffic on solid line, missed turn to side-street at time of crash - witness #sabcnews

Dries Liebenberg‏@DriesLiebenberg3m

Taxi driver showed no concern for critically injured Burry Stander after crash, Port Shepstone court told #sabcnews

Dries Liebenberg‏@DriesLiebenberg1h

Taxi driver in Burry Stander case overtook traffic on solid line, missed turn to side-street at time of crash - witness #sabcnews

 

Dries Liebenberg‏@DriesLiebenberg3m

Taxi driver showed no concern for critically injured Burry Stander after crash, Port Shepstone court told #sabcnews

If any of these ring true then I am happy to join in and say we seek justice.

If any of these ring true then I am happy to join in and say we seek JUNGLE justice.

Fixed.

Dries Liebenberg ‏@DriesLiebenberg 5m

Trial over Burry Stander's death adjourned to 28 and 29 November in Port Shepstone magistrates court #sabcnews

Court in session

http://www.ecr.co.za/post/burry-stander-trial-postponed-to-july/

Dries Liebenberg @DriesLiebenberg · 58m

#BurryStander and taxi driver would have had clear view of each other from 50 metres away - expert #sabcnews

Dries Liebenberg @DriesLiebenberg · 59m

#BurryStander could have been 12 metres from taxi when vehicle turned in front of him, court hears #sabcnews

Dries Liebenberg @DriesLiebenberg · 2h

#BurryStander was not pedalling hard when he collided with a taxi, expert tells court #sabcnews

Dries Liebenberg @DriesLiebenberg · 3h

#BurryStander: expert in accident reconstruction takes the stand #sabcnews

Dries Liebenberg @DriesLiebenberg · 4h

#BurryStander trial resumes after 8 months. Taxi driver accused of culpable homicide, reckless driving #sabcnews

thx for updates.

Still so tragic

Burry Stander trial: defence to question expert today

http://www.ecr.co.za/post/burry-stander-trial-defence-to-question-expert/

Just heard on the news . Expert say if taxi did not make a illegal turn across a solid white line the accident would not have happened .

Story with slightly more detail about yesterday's testimony…

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/stander-could-not-avoid-crash-1.1721108#.U8ec26JN_Zs

I was just wondering - if this was a trial by jury, as they do in the States (United, not Free) - what do you think the verdict would be? With the awesome reputation us cyclists have ... scary scary thought.

I was just wondering - if this was a trial by jury, as they do in the States (United, not Free) - what do you think the verdict would be? With the awesome reputation us cyclists have ... scary scary thought.

Nothing because the Jury members are required to set emotions aside and just look at the facts. In this case it was an individual riding the correct line and not in the middle of the road. Your thinking can come into play if the taxi crashed into a bunch of cyclists and the defense brings up the behavior of cyclists for defending his clients action.

I was just wondering - if this was a trial by jury, as they do in the States (United, not Free) - what do you think the verdict would be? With the awesome reputation us cyclists have ... scary scary thought.

Compared to the even more awesome reputation of taxis?!

Compared to the even more awesome reputation of taxis?!

I think, of course IMNSHO, that cyclists have a worse reputation than taxis. When a taxi misbehaves, everyone goes "Oh whatever" but if a cyclist does it - all hell breaks loose.

@BicycleSafetySA

The matter was postponed on Friday until September #BurryStander

@ECR_Newswatch The family of cyclist Burry Stander says it has been an emotional roller coaster since the trial began: http://www.ecr.co.za/post/stander-trial-emotional-roller-coaster-mom/

SA Agst DrunkDriving @SADD_SA

#BurryStander Need educatn drive for taxis/drivers abt seeing cyclists as vehicles @TrafficRTMC @JPSAorg @Abramjee

whichgatenext @duppie4x

@SADD_SA @JPSAorg @TrafficRTMC @Abramjee This part of overall road lawlessness. Educt alone wont solve. Strict enforcement more NB.

@BicycleSafetySA

The matter was postponed on Friday until September #BurryStander

 

@ECR_Newswatch The family of cyclist Burry Stander says it has been an emotional roller coaster since the trial began: http://www.ecr.co.za...er-coaster-mom/

 

SA Agst DrunkDriving @SADD_SA

#BurryStander Need educatn drive for taxis/drivers abt seeing cyclists as vehicles @TrafficRTMC @JPSAorg @Abramjee

 

whichgatenext @duppie4x

@SADD_SA @JPSAorg @TrafficRTMC @Abramjee This part of overall road lawlessness. Educt alone wont solve. Strict enforcement more NB.

Hmm....

Thanks for the updates Nathrix, we should not forget

Postponed again.. nee hell man

Dries Liebenberg @DriesLiebenberg

Taxi driver's trial over road death of Olympic cyclist #Burry Stander set to resume in Port Shepstone court #sabcnews

TreadMTBmag @TreadMTBmag

The Burry Stander trial resumes today. Here's a reminder of why it matters... #iride4burry

Postponed again.. nee hell man

Why?

That's an old post. The court is in session today.

Dries Liebenberg @DriesLiebenberg

Taxi driver's trial over road death of Olympic cyclist #Burry Stander set to resume in Port Shepstone court #sabcnews

 

TreadMTBmag @TreadMTBmag

The Burry Stander trial resumes today. Here's a reminder of why it matters... #iride4burry