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Ashburton Investments boosts elite women’s prize purse to equal men’s

By Press Office · 63 comments

Ashburton Investments, the title sponsor of the South African National MTB Series, has announced it will equal the Elite women’s prize money.

This follows the Facebook message posted by three-time Cape Epic winner and Swiss champion, Ariane Lüthi of Team Spur. Lüthi, a Swiss national who lives in Stellenbosch for most of the year, is a former winner of the series.

ccs-62657-0-07012200-1485778283.jpgCandice Neethling leads the women’s charge through Grabouw’s soaked routes this past weekend at the first round of the Ashburton Investments National MTB Series in Grabouw. Photo credit: www.zcmc.co.za

While grateful for an increase in the Elite women’s prize money over 2016, Lüthi still recognised that the men earned more prize money than the women, for the same race distance, and refused, on principle, to participate in Saturday’s event in Grabouw.

Ashburton Investments, a part of the FirstRand Group, a company that is highly committed to gender equality, has agreed that equal prize money should be given for the entire series.

“We are firmly committed to the series, and as such, we want to encourage the participation of every rider. The prize money should be equal, and our hope is that this will further encourage more women to enter and compete. We would like to thank miss Lüthi for bringing it to our attention, and that we are able to rectify this discrepancy for the remainder of the series” said Marie Creighton from Ashburton Investments.

“I am glad that we can offer an equal prize purse to the ladies, without lowering the men’s prize money and I do believe that the result is a win for all. I would like to thank Ashburton Investments for the continued support and look forward to a great series in 2017!” said Fritz Pienaar, Director of Advendurance, the company that organises the Ashburton Investments National MTB Series.

“This is fantastic news and I cannot thank Ashburton Investments enough for increasing their sponsorship towards our beautiful sport and, in particular, their support of equality within it. I also need to thank Fritz Pienaar for contacting me this morning. We had a very positive conversation. I understand his position as a businessman. He did and still does a lot for the professionalism of the sport and I truly appreciate that,” said Lüthi.

“The way Ashburton Investments as well as Fritz Pienaar responded to my request is admirable. The fact that Advendurance, with the help of Ashburton Investments are willing to change the prize money structure and make it equal for women and men, is something I don’t take for granted. It is often very difficult to effect change. Maybe that is one of the biggest reasons why I love South Africa. I love it for its open mindedness,” added Lüthi.

“It is important to me to clarify that it was never my intention to make it a fight between Advendurance and myself or between men and women for that matter. My intention was to create awareness for the gender inequality that there still is, making people think and causing a discussion about it. If the cycling community’s response to this issue could be mirrored in broader society I really believe we could move forward on many more challenging social issues,” said Lüthi.

The Ashburton Investments National MTB Series is the most prestigious mountain bike racing series in South Africa and widely considered the best organised series in the world. It comprises seven rounds of racing in six provinces and caters for all levels of mountain bike racer, from novice to professional.

For more information on Ashburton Investments, visit www.ashburtoninvestments.com.

For more information on the Ashburton Investments National MTB Series, visit www.nationalmtbseries.com.

Comments

PygaSchmyga

Jan 30, 2017, 3:51 PM

I think the tennis debate is a good analogy. The debate has been going on for much longer, and the arguments/status quo are similar.

 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/21/novak-djokovic-is-right-male-tennis-players-do-deserve-to-be-paid-more-than-female-stars-5765546/

 

I was pointing out that it doesn't make sense at the aussie open, but because it is in the spotlight the organisers are forced to do equal pay. Rest of the year the men make the money in tennis. So you actually got that one loud and clear.

 

 

 

 

 

ok. let's look at this from the otherside then.

Male model's deserve the same money that female models do. http://fortune.com/2015/07/15/male-models-pay/

It's a stupid argument, because in my mind equal prizemoney doesn't really do much for the development of elite females. 

On what do you base this fairly bold assumption?  Also, I'm sure Ariane disagrees with you. And probably so does Ashburton. 

 

In any event, this was never about development of Elite riders - nobody every mentioned this - only you.  This is about doing the right thing.  All your economic arguments are just not relevant, whether they are right or wrong.  Why do you want to continue to defend unequal treatment for female riders - it seems futile given that the sponsors reacted so quickly to change it?

Shebeen

Jan 30, 2017, 3:52 PM

I'll try

 

It's a case where economics aren't "self-correcting" and need some "intervention". To take an analogy in football, Barcelona and Real Madrid is dominating spanish football, therefore they have the most fans/viewers and in turn the biggest income which allow them to buy the best players/coaches/stadiums which perpetuate their dominance - a self-feeding circle (. Under normal circumstances it would be impossible for another team to permanently break into the top 2 unless some rich Arab/Russian with oil money show up...

 

It's the same with male-dominated sports, over years they have received the most investment which produces the better product which in turn attract the most investment.

 

One way to start breaking this cycle is equal prize money.

 

2013 and 2014 US open tennis woman finals drew more viewers than the mens finals, so the potential is there.

I don't think equal prize money is the tool to grow the women's field, but I agree that it doesn't hurt.

 

2013 US Open(now you got me going).Women's final was the highest rating in 11 years, and was on a Sunday. the men's was on the monday night  I would call that an anomoly. (source - http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/09/us-open-womens-final-scores-better-tv-ratings-men/49130/ when a early season NFL game beat them both out the park!)

Skubarra

Jan 30, 2017, 4:02 PM

I don't think equal prize money is the tool to grow the women's field, but I agree that it doesn't hurt.

 

2013 US Open(now you got me going).Women's final was the highest rating in 11 years, and was on a Sunday. the men's was on the monday night  I would call that an anomoly. (source - http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/09/us-open-womens-final-scores-better-tv-ratings-men/49130/ when a early season NFL game beat them both out the park!)

 

and in 2014? I'm sure I can find more anomalies with a bit of effort. But my point is just that the potential is there for the gap to be much closer than it is now. Staring blindly into past economics is missing the bigger picture imo

 

I'm not saying equal prize money is a silver bullet but I also think it is a good start. And it is not something that will be fixed overnight (referring to your Epic example)

Gen

Jan 30, 2017, 4:39 PM

the answer is simple here.

 

Epic made equal prize money in 2014, so we have a bit of data to work with.

Is the ladies elite field better in 2017 than it was in 2013?

 

If that really is the case then I concede all arguments.

No the field is bigger this year because there is no Olympic build up and they have revamped the whole ladies race. .. from starting batch to team combinations..

 

 

Yes equal prize money is a big incentive as well.

Gen

Jan 30, 2017, 4:41 PM

Seems to have made a u turn in his approach after Ashburton boosted the prise money... what a tjop

I wonder if Ashburton are really aware of where all the money goes?

 

Seems he is just in charge and carries on.

Danger Dassie

Jan 30, 2017, 5:17 PM

the answer is simple here.

 

Epic made equal prize money in 2014, so we have a bit of data to work with.

Is the ladies elite field better in 2017 than it was in 2013?

 

If that really is the case then I concede all arguments.

Would say the racing in 2016 is a clear answer to that, the clear favourites were under a lot of pressure and had at least one of the teams not had a rider pull out. We may well have seen a different result. 

Also considering that a couple of the riders were/are past and current World Cup Champs, World Champs and Olympic medalists/contenders shows that the field is better. Including looking at the team pairings for 2017. 

Eugene Oppelt

Jan 30, 2017, 5:22 PM

Sweet response

 

Well done, Sponsor

Danger Dassie

Jan 30, 2017, 5:24 PM

I wonder if Ashburton are really aware of where all the money goes?

 

Seems he is just in charge and carries on.

 

Yes, they do a marketing measurement as well an audit of financials. Would be worried if an investment bank didn't do at least a due diligence. 

 

Ariane herself has commended the work and standard of events that Advendurance set as an example. So sure, maybe her and Fritz possibly have an adversarial relationship, but they at least acknowledge each other in their own right. 

 

Notice a lot of people have been making some very personal remarks towards Fritz Pienaar, personally feel that's a double standard given some of the content of those remarkd, and in the entire context of the debate raises question over their motives. Opposite sides of the same coin still make it the same coin. 

Gen

Jan 30, 2017, 6:16 PM

Yes, they do a marketing measurement as well an audit of financials. Would be worried if an investment bank didn't do at least a due diligence.

 

Ariane herself has commended the work and standard of events that Advendurance set as an example. So sure, maybe her and Fritz possibly have an adversarial relationship, but they at least acknowledge each other in their own right.

 

Notice a lot of people have been making some very personal remarks towards Fritz Pienaar, personally feel that's a double standard given some of the content of those remarkd, and in the entire context of the debate raises question over their motives. Opposite sides of the same coin still make it the same coin.

I don't know the guy so can't say what kind of person he is, but judging from his response to her initial boycott (and the initial article) it just seemed that he made the decision not to have equal prize without consulting the sponsor..one would think if he had he would've said something along the line of..after discussing it with our sponsor.. Maybe he did discuss it with them and just omitted that part..(and yes this is just an assumption..)
V12man

Jan 30, 2017, 7:07 PM

I wonder if Ashburton are really aware of where all the money goes?

 

Seems he is just in charge and carries on.

Wonder if the competition commission needs to investigate....
andydude

Jan 31, 2017, 7:57 AM

Don't you find this a bit ironic?

 

They are confirming that the ladies are NOT equal by letting them race in a different category than the men, but then paying them the same as the men in the name of equality.

 

Before I get attacked, I'm actually for equal prize money.

Bikejunkie

Jan 31, 2017, 8:05 AM

Don't you find this a bit ironic?

 

They are confirming that the ladies are NOT equal by letting them race in a different category than the men, but then paying them the same as the men in the name of equality.

 

Before I get attacked, I'm actually for equal prize money.

The distance was the same. Same course. Same conditions. Same everything. I don't understand your statement?

andydude

Jan 31, 2017, 8:28 AM

The distance was the same. Same course. Same conditions. Same everything. I don't understand your statement?

You forgot the most important thing, namely the time.

 

But I assume you agree that men and women are not equal in MTB?

 

Playing devil's advocate here!

jcza

Jan 31, 2017, 8:29 AM

Don't you find this a bit ironic?

 

They are confirming that the ladies are NOT equal by letting them race in a different category than the men, but then paying them the same as the men in the name of equality.

 

Before I get attacked, I'm actually for equal prize money.

 

Ladies cannot complete with men but should be afforded the same opportunity to compete over the same distance with the same prize money in the same conditions.

Bikejunkie

Jan 31, 2017, 8:30 AM

You forgot the most important thing, namely the time.

 

But I assume you agree that men and women are not equal in MTB?

 

Playing devil's advocate here!

equality is not a fight, its a right! same race, same reward. full stop.

andydude

Jan 31, 2017, 8:35 AM

equality is not a fight... its a right! same race... same reward. full stop.

You put forth no argument?

 

I think you are confusing equal opportunity and equality. Men, women, children are not equal. But all deserve the same opportunity.

 

But let's turn this around. If two men do the same job in a company, but one takes twice as long as the other, should they be paid the same?

Shebeen

Jan 31, 2017, 8:37 AM

I can't make my point any further - I just think giving out equal prizemoney just papers over the cracks, and this was a publicity stunt that put a race organiser in a difficult position. Ashburton's response to throw money at the problem in the short term does not make it a long term sustainable solution.

On what do you base this fairly bold assumption?  Also, I'm sure Ariane disagrees with you. And probably so does Ashburton. 

 

In any event, this was never about development of Elite riders - nobody every mentioned this - only you.  This is about doing the right thing.  All your economic arguments are just not relevant, whether they are right or wrong.  Why do you want to continue to defend unequal treatment for female riders - it seems futile given that the sponsors reacted so quickly to change it?

 

only going to respond to this one, as this has gone way beyond just playing devil's advocate for Fritz sound arguments from a commercial perspective (http://www.treadmtb.co.za/why-ariane-luthi-boycotted-the-ashburton-investments-series-opener/). Call it end of monday, but I was not referring to Ariane's argument as stupid - I was referring to my own analogy of pay gaps in the model industry grossly weighted towards females to prove a point that equality doesn't mean making everything identical for men and women.

 

Viva equal prize money, Viva! Everything is cool in the pool now. Back to tennis (which is very relevant to this discussion) they did some window dressing for equal pay and we get epic 5 setters in the men's draw like sunday and the usual skirt chasing in the ladies .

 

All those bashing me here are probably paid up members of the Emily Batty fanclub anyway.

 

 

Going to back to my cave with my archaic thoughts.

V12man

Jan 31, 2017, 8:38 AM

equality is not a fight... its a right! same race... same reward. full stop.

Can you insist on that to my wife when I leave the toilet seat up?  Why does she not lift it for me?

 

:ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

carelv

Jan 31, 2017, 8:56 AM

Isn't the point to attract more ladies to the sport.

 

Having said that, is it even possible to get equal participation numbers?

Taking into consideration the difference in the sexes.

Most men like mud, dust, outdoors, a bit of fear, adrenaline. Things MTB provides lots of. These are not things the average lady are looking for in a sport?

andydude

Jan 31, 2017, 9:03 AM

Isn't the point to attract more ladies to the sport.

 

Having said that, is it even possible to get equal participation numbers?

Taking into consideration the difference in the sexes.

Most men like mud, dust, outdoors, a bit of fear, adrenaline. Things MTB provides lots of. These are not things the average lady are looking for in a sport?

Yes. And I agree. If you make it that women see they can make a living like the men, then you will get more women competing. And more women will mean higher performance. Great snowball effect.

 

And also, there is a historical context which also play a role, where women were seen as less than men. To become more equal opportunity you should actually have higher prize money for the women to try and correct for previous imbalances. I won't mind that either.

Ridefree

Jan 31, 2017, 9:08 AM

Isn't the point to attract more ladies to the sport.

 

Having said that, is it even possible to get equal participation numbers?

Taking into consideration the difference in the sexes.

Most men like mud, dust, outdoors, a bit of fear, adrenaline. Things MTB provides lots of. These are not things the average lady are looking for in a sport?

The sexism is just dripping from this comment. My favourite part -  the "average lady" . Should we really get into who likes mud, outdoors and fear the most out of the guys and girls??

Gen

Jan 31, 2017, 9:25 AM

Don't you find this a bit ironic?

 

They are confirming that the ladies are NOT equal by letting them race in a different category than the men, but then paying them the same as the men in the name of equality.

 

Before I get attacked, I'm actually for equal prize money.

The ladies have their own category, own start batch and race against each other..therefore a ladies prize purse.

 

 

It is as good as a u23 race

Gen

Jan 31, 2017, 9:26 AM

Isn't the point to attract more ladies to the sport.

 

Having said that, is it even possible to get equal participation numbers?

Taking into consideration the difference in the sexes.

Most men like mud, dust, outdoors, a bit of fear, adrenaline. Things MTB provides lots of. These are not things the average lady are looking for in a sport?

Come again..
carelv

Jan 31, 2017, 9:28 AM

So how do you suggest increasing participation levels of girls.

From the races I have done, we are standing at about 10%.

Getting to 50% is a tall order.

Increasing elite ladies prize money is not going to do the trick, in my opinion.

Ridefree

Jan 31, 2017, 9:30 AM

So how do you suggest increasing participation levels of girls.

From the races I have done, we are standing at about 10%.

Getting to 50% is a tall order.

Increasing elite ladies prize money is not going to do the trick, in my opinion.

So are you saying if the amount of each gender standing on the start line is not equal then they should not be paid the same?

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